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Chill la Chill posted:So it's the same system they use in x-wing. There's a lot of maneuver fiddling you can do that won't be possible with puzzle bases, or it becomes messier (railroad tracks for bumping for example). OTOH, it does create new opportunities for positioning, like lining up with the extruding part aligned or unaligned with friends and foes. Whether that is worth the additional measurement burdens we'll have to see but I don't like that there are essentially "two" ranges for charging: aligned and unaligned puzzle portions. I think maybe you assume it's more complex than it is. The only time you lock bases together is to make up a unit. Other than that units act as independent bases, with a footprint of exactly their physical shape. Unlike X-Wing the templates go on the side of the unit, so bumping (collision) is actually much simpler - you slide the edge along the template until you hit a thing, then stop, no need to fish the template out from beneath. Which is a good loving thing, because charging enemies is pretty important to a fantasy battles game. When two units engage in melee, whichever one did the moving then aligns to the enemy by touching the front of their trays, but notably not by interlocking. You're also allowed to treat your own sticky-outy puzzle bits as not existing for the purposes of collision, though I've only read that section of rules once so I'm not completely sure how it works. edit: I think maybe I misunderstood you about aligned puzzle portions, but for that to happen requires VERY precise alignment. Certainly I've never seen it.
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I play tournament x-wing enough that I know with enough practice that the protruding portions will definitely become part of the movement tactics for the game, especially because you can shift sideways. I split the base set with a friend and we'll be proxying everything else with our other fantasy minis. FFG already has promo kits lined up but I doubt it'll take off.
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Chill la Chill posted:I play tournament x-wing enough that I know with enough practice that the protruding portions will definitely become part of the movement tactics for the game, especially because you can shift sideways. I split the base set with a friend and we'll be proxying everything else with our other fantasy minis. FFG already has promo kits lined up but I doubt it'll take off. Well it's hard to argue with your experience, but it seems to me there will be much more system mastery involved in using turns to charge straight ahead. Since the arc is drawn on one side of your tray, the opposite swings wide, resulting in more distance traveled the wider your unit is. Since you only need to tap the enemy to fully align to them, very wide units can get some crazy distances off.
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What happens to this thread if GW is no longer a Bad Company
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MCPeePants posted:Well it's hard to argue with your experience, but it seems to me there will be much more system mastery involved in using turns to charge straight ahead. Since the arc is drawn on one side of your tray, the opposite swings wide, resulting in more distance traveled the wider your unit is. Since you only need to tap the enemy to fully align to them, very wide units can get some crazy distances off. Yeah, it only takes a mm here and there to make all the difference. Believe me, people will get good enough that it'll become a thing. Whether or not it's good, IDK, it's different, but it's an extra concern/burden to lining up bases flush. Pawl posted:What happens to this thread if GW is no longer a Bad Company
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Pawl posted:What happens to this thread if GW is no longer a Bad Company it goes back to what this thread has really been about all along general wargame chat, possum chat, gundam chat etc
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Pawl posted:What happens to this thread if GW is no longer a Bad Company Moola posted:it goes back to what this thread has really been about all along Ya... No change really.
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Pawl posted:What happens to this thread if GW is no longer a Bad Company We are already living this dream, friendo, and I'm the OP so that makes it official. It is hereby resolved that GW is good and cool.
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Death Thread 2017 Memorial GW is Good Thread.
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GW can have all the crappy rules they want if, in the end, the games don't last 3 hours (2 of which are spent arguing and flipping through books) and they actually keep doing customer outreach then I'd say that they've moved from 'bad' to 'benign' in my books.
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I think they still need to stop abusing independent retailers, make games with good rules (not just "playable because we added points" but actually modernized rules that compete with other modern games), stop abusing their own employees, and prove that they will continue to support the products they sell for a reasonable amount of time after they sell them. That last point is the one that will take the longest. I want to see a track record spanning multiple years, of the company not loving over customers who just bought a product they were marketing and selling. Even if that product has been on sale for a while. It's as easy as openly giving honest information about when a given product will be obsoleted by rules changes or dropping a game. E.g., if you sell me a model for a game, and you already know internally you'll be dropping support for that model in the next version of that game which is coming out in a few months, you should inform me of that so I can make a good decision about whether or not to buy it. GW has made substantial improvements over the last two years but they're not yet at a point where the company should be considered trustworthy, and the rules for their games are still sub-par.
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TKIY posted:We are already living this dream, friendo, and I'm the OP so that makes it official. please close thread tia
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Moola posted:please close thread tia DENIED TKIY fucked around with this message at 13:28 on May 12, 2017 |
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May 12, 2017 00:49
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Look who's back on the program Hookin' up another fly joint When I flow on the slow jam
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Thank god. New thread reads like /r/neckbeard
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gas both threads tbh
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The Deleter posted:gas the other thread tbh
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One cannot deny the nature of the Death Thread and expect to stand against the test of time. Look upon it, and tremble.
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WHO RUN DEATHTHREAD TOWN?!
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Dermatitis Personae Atlas Hugged A poster who really likes poo poo and death threads where you can poo poo in. This person has a lot of passion for what he does as evidenced by the Neo Death Thread. Notable Posts: Neo Death Thread Boneheaded Moves: Opened a new death thread within hours of the previous one getting locked, including a massive OP. Makes you think Atlas Hugged had it pre-written and had been waiting for his chance to have his own Death Thread. What the gently caress, Atlas Hugged?
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Masterblaster?
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I just finished writing out a blurb about Battlefront too 
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NTRabbit posted:I just finished writing out a blurb about Battlefront too Post it here friendo
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NTRabbit posted:I just finished writing out a blurb about Battlefront too 
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Battlefront Like Warlord, these guys are trying to make historic games more palatable to the masses by focusing on "cinematic" gameplay over "historical accuracy", except unlike Warlord they've gone for 15mm scale instead of 28mm. As well as this, they've also joined the queue of companies adapting or adopting the X-Wing game style and presentation to create a gateway game using tanks only, imaginatively called Tanks! Notable game: Flames of War, Team Yankee, Tanks! Boneheaded moves: They also do not have their finger on the pulse of what gamers want, leading them to sink lots of money into producing minis for a Vietnam game that nobody really wanted and didn't make sense in the system, and woefully under producing product for their cold war gone hot game Team Yankee. Because in a system that allows a greater focus on armoured vehicles than infantry, who would ever have guessed that people would be desperate to see all the cool NATO and Warsaw Pact vehicles from the movies of our childhood slug it out on the table? In addition, they have a pathological need to treat Soviet forces in all eras as inferior, low skill, low tech, hordes of conscripts forces akin to NPCs in an RTS, despite numerous arguments supported by mountains of documentary evidence to the contrary, feeding the not mutually exclusive American and Wehraboo sense of superiority. And we all love to play games with Wehraboos.
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The Deleter posted:gas both threads tbh
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Gas furries.
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I was so lost. The hole that the death thread left in my bookmarks was matched only by the hole in my heart.
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Please rename thread Atlas Hugbox to reflect the content better, tia
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Please rename thread Atlas Hugbox to reflect the content better, tia That's just hurtful. Here in the Death Thread we love and respect our fellow stupid posters.
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TKIY posted:That's just hurtful. Here in the Death Thread we love and respect our fellow stupid posters. Ok, whatever you say literal Hitler.
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Is GW good? Is GW bad? I can't handle this rollercoaster of emotions
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Pawl posted:Is GW good? Is GW bad? I can't handle this rollercoaster of emotions GW is, was, and ever shall be. Amen.
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The death thread is full of thoughtful, informative miniature wargaming analysis; it is truly a treasure
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Pawl posted:Is GW good? Is GW bad? I can't handle this rollercoaster of emotions It's insanely good
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reopen the other thread but refocus it on complaining that this thread exists
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All GW threads are hug box echo chambers. Gas everything.
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:reopen the other thread but refocus it on complaining that this thread exists The Death Thread Thread 2017
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