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duTrieux. posted:what happens if you press the dedicated back button in an application and there isn't a previously viewed content panel? Home screen
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May 12, 2017 04:39
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Blue Train posted:Home screen what if you had come directly from another app though? does the "back" button take you to the home screen or to the previous app?
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May 12, 2017 04:41
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duTrieux. posted:what happens if you press the dedicated back button in an application and there isn't a previously viewed content panel? a black hole opens
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May 12, 2017 04:42
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Last Chance posted:what if you had come directly from another app though? does the "back" button take you to the home screen or to the previous app? I'm hosed up and don't understand but if you are on the home screen the back button doesn't do anything
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May 12, 2017 04:43
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Blue Train posted:I'm hosed up and don't understand but if you are on the home screen the back button doesn't do anything you get a notification and you switch to another popular app, immediately see a snap with a titty. you nod. then you press the back button. does it take you to a. home screen b. the news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug2hLQv6WeY
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May 12, 2017 04:49
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Blue Train posted:Home screen so the back button occasionally changes function into an exit button? is there any way to tell when that happens other than memorizing the sequence of content panels that you've viewed in every active app?
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May 12, 2017 05:07
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duTrieux. posted:so the back button occasionally changes function into an exit button? is there any way to tell when that happens other than memorizing the sequence of content panels that you've viewed in every active app? It goes back? If you are at the initial screen of an app it goes to the home screen. If you are within an app it goes back within the app. As a yosposter I have never seen a naked woman so I can not comment on the Snapchat scenario
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May 12, 2017 05:15
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duTrieux. posted:so the back button occasionally changes function into an exit button? is there any way to tell when that happens other than memorizing the sequence of content panels that you've viewed in every active app? no, you get the surprise and delight when you press it and, as previously discussed, your app terminates (unlike the home button which only backgrounds it)
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May 12, 2017 14:24
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Blue Train posted:I'm hosed up and don't understand but if you are on the home screen the back button doesn't do anything so why is it there?
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May 12, 2017 14:29
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carry on then posted:so why is it there? Continuity Plus it allows you to back out of menus in the home screen or inputs etc
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May 12, 2017 14:57
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The Management posted:no, you get the surprise and delight when you press it and, as previously discussed, your app terminates (unlike the home button which only backgrounds it) On my Android phone, pressing the back button in this situation backgrounds the app, same as if I were to press the home button.
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May 12, 2017 14:59
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silence_kit posted:On my Android phone, pressing the back button in this situation backgrounds the app, same as if I were to press the home button. There are some apps that exit of you press back from the main screen but it will usually pop up a toast saying tap back again to exit
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May 12, 2017 15:02
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blue train you can keep trying but i really dont think theyll ever grasp that back takes you to literally the thing that was there prior to the thing on there now its just too complicated no one could ever figure it out
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May 12, 2017 16:09
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ok so I put down my phone for a minute and forget the exact context of the app I'm in when I pick it back up. what does that permanent, contextless back button take me back to? or, if I'm reading Twitter and tap on a video and it opens in the YouTube app, does tapping the back button take me back to Twitter, to the home screen, or something else (like back to the main screen in the YouTube app)?
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May 12, 2017 16:58
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Doc Block posted:ok so I put down my phone for a minute and forget the exact context of the app I'm in when I pick it back up. what does that permanent, contextless back button take me back to? that's app and condition specific, but mostly "back to the the precious screen"
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May 12, 2017 17:03
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LastInLine posted:blue train you can keep trying but i really dont think theyll ever grasp that back takes you to literally the thing that was there prior to the thing on there now except for when you're at the bottom of the stack and it takes you out of the application or when you're in a menu on the home screen (?) and want to close the menu other than those two functions which aren't "back", back does exactly what it says!
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May 12, 2017 17:11
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what other exciting things will the back button do other than going back? stay tuned!
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May 12, 2017 17:11
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LastInLine posted:blue train you can keep trying but i really dont think theyll ever grasp that back takes you to literally the thing that was there prior to the thing on there now the point is it absolutely does not do this in all cases
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May 12, 2017 17:18
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ios: if there is nothing to go back to, there is no back button. this includes being at an app's main screen, since only the home button takes you back to the home screen. if you are a few screens deep in an app, the back button will provide context about what screen you'll go back to, provided the app supplies this information. the back button is always in the same place. if you tap on a link in App A that takes you to App B (or you tap a notification that pops up and it brings you to App B), the OS places a back button at the top of the screen in App B (in a different place than normal back buttons to prevent confusion) that takes you back to App A, and the button will be labeled "Back to App A". iOS back buttons say what they're taking you back to, don't do anything unexpected, and disappear when not needed. in Android the always-present back button does multiple things, and doesn't say which of them it's going to do. and that's on top of all the other garbage in anroid
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May 12, 2017 17:24
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anroid: so bad even the back buttons will make you carepost
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May 12, 2017 17:28
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cinci zoo sniper posted:"back to the the precious screen" the "now turning off" screen
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May 12, 2017 19:05
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The back button always takes you back, not necessarily to the previous screen. If they keyboard pops up in a text box, back collapses it, leaving the cursor in the text box. If you bring down a list, back closes it. It brings you back and where back is is dependent on what you were doing. It is, however, always back
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May 12, 2017 19:30
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Blue Train posted:The back button always takes you back… Blue Train posted:If they keyboard pops up in a text box, back collapses it, leaving the cursor in the text box. ⋮
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May 12, 2017 19:34
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It bring you from the keyboard element back to the box element
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May 12, 2017 19:39
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Blue Train posted:It bring you from the keyboard element back to the box element why does it leave focus in the entry box without the keyboard present?
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May 12, 2017 19:39
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Blue Train posted:The back button always takes you back, not necessarily to the previous screen. If they keyboard pops up in a text box, back collapses it, leaving the cursor in the text box. If you bring down a list, back closes it. It brings you back and where back is is dependent on what you were doing. It is, however, always back i wanted to say previous state, but that'd been android of ux explanations
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May 12, 2017 19:40
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duTrieux. posted:why does it leave focus in the entry box without the keyboard present? That's the last element they were in so it brings focus back to it Maybe you want to long press to paste. There are valid reason to focus a text box and not have the kb up
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May 12, 2017 19:40
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duTrieux. posted:why does it leave focus in the entry box without the keyboard present? for operations involving text selection so you dont have a third of screen or more taken up with something irrelevant, like copying part what you just typed for instance
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May 12, 2017 19:41
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so what you're describing is: - tap an entry box to provide focus and call up the keyboard. - tap back to dismiss the keyboard, but maintain focus to perform other operations. in which case the button is explicitly not going back because it's introducing a new state. or is the justification that it's only going sort of back? unless in android you have to tap an input field and then tap again to call up the keyboard, but then why would you need to use back to dismiss the keyboard without going back to—
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May 12, 2017 19:46
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duTrieux. posted:so what you're describing is: tapping input fields for keyboard is app-specific
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May 12, 2017 19:49
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cinci zoo sniper posted:tapping input fields for keyboard is app-specific huh.
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May 12, 2017 19:54
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duTrieux. posted:huh.
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May 12, 2017 20:08
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androids back button has always been temperamental and the fact that some apps still use 'press back twice to exit to home' is stupid as gently caress
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May 12, 2017 21:01
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back dismissing the keyboard is visually indicated on the button itself specifically because it exceptional
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May 13, 2017 00:43
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do android buttons ever change appearance based on context? like if the back button was about to close the keyboard, could it show that visually smoehow?
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May 13, 2017 00:59
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Last Chance posted:do android buttons ever change appearance based on context? like if the back button was about to close the keyboard, could it show that visually smoehow? did you not read the post before yours? at least google did away with the menu button. what a stupid idea that was
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May 13, 2017 01:04
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android is bad, hth
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May 13, 2017 01:10
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Last Chance posted:do android buttons ever change appearance based on context? like if the back button was about to close the keyboard, could it show that visually smoehow? when i tapped on your post, the back button turned into pacman and the other 2 buttons turned into ghosts. i have never been brave enough to wait and see what happens when the ghosts catch him
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May 13, 2017 01:23
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Endless Mike posted:did you not read the post before yours? no i didnt lol
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May 13, 2017 08:06
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treble, lomarftals pretty good idea to be hoenst
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