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Kopijeger posted:Why assume that commenting on the fact that something happens makes you mad about it? Have no particular opinion on it. You could have just said '1', you know.
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quote:This romantic action musical portrays Alexandre Dumas' "The Three Musketeers," one of the classics of human civilization, with a new twist. Our story is set in France, where Louis XIV, the "Sun King," rules. D'Artagnan, a newly commissioned musketeer, has been assigned to serve as the king's fencing partner. The king, however, exhibits no interest in swordplay, as he is enthralled by the art of dance. One day, D'Artagnan learns of a secret concerning the king that will shake the very foundations of the House of Bourbon... This show sounds kind of amazing, honestly.
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RoboRodent posted:This show sounds kind of amazing, honestly. Yeah this rules Edit: also holy hell. Someone make a Kelly edit for "politoons when we do/don't talk about race"
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May 12, 2017 21:41
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Cat Mattress posted:Japan needs greater representation of its Ainu minority. There also tend to be a lot of racist depictions of Korean and Chinese people, and general racism towards southeast asian immigrants. Japan is not the monoculture it pretends to be. But their racism looks different from ours. Saying "look at then besmirching the purity of French literature!" is pretty goddamn ridiculous. Also that show does sound pretty good.
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A lot of people seem to be confused about some aspects of the whitewashing controversies, and luckily Idea Channel just released this really interesting and helpful video explaining a lot of it and why it matters. Check it out. Also, saying "it's wrong in the US because it's multicultural, but it's fine in Japan/China/India/wherever because those are more homogenic cultures" is pretty offensively wrong. Literally every single country on the planet Earth has bad issues with racism and ethnic minorities, and those problems aren't insignificant just because the population of said minorities are smaller.
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tyblazitar posted:A lot of people seem to be confused about some aspects of the whitewashing controversies, and luckily Idea Channel just released this really interesting and helpful video explaining a lot of it and why it matters. Check it out. Just don't say "yellow-washed" anymore. It's icky and racist.
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Don't you get that a bad thing happening somewhere else that's analagous to a bad thing happening here makes both things totally loving fine?
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tyblazitar posted:A lot of people seem to be confused about some aspects of the whitewashing controversies, and luckily Idea Channel just released this really interesting and helpful video explaining a lot of it and why it matters. Check it out. I agree that all countries should be held to that standard, I believe in it and multiculturalism. But I can't really say I'm naive enough to be able to say that those standards currently apply globally, and that at the end of the day I can argue that it's important for any place that openly sells itself as multicultural that it is important for them to adhere to those standards. It's problematic when they don't because of poor representation when representation is something that is supposed to be an iconic aspect of that country, again it leads people to believe for instance that the US is a white country. Can I hold Japan to that standard when they're so closed off as a cultural standard? I can't in reality, I want to and I would love to see every country to do so, right now though, I can only hold the countries that say they support multiculturalism accountable.
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Skippy Granola posted:How about "Japanese Actors playing fictional characters?" D'Artagnan wasn't a fictional character. quote:Mail: Eskimos do buy refrigerators, because they stop food getting too cold. Likewise Britain needs Labour's manifesto to avoid the catastrophes that will be caused by the total lack of a plan from the Tories. AGC.
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I don't think that the Japanese have a shortage of media starring white people available to them, which makes the idea that they somehow need to scrounge up white actors to star in Japanese plays or movies kinda strange.
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May 12, 2017 22:27
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What's the deal with fox hunting? Are they endangered in the UK or something?
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Pants Donkey posted:What's the deal with fox hunting? Are they endangered in the UK or something? I would assume the deal is that foxes are cool and chasing one around on horses with dogs until they tear it limb from limb is barbaric as gently caress.
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RoboRodent posted:This show sounds kind of amazing, honestly. The 'new twist' is clearly that the Musketeers serve the Sun King and not his father like in the original story  Edit: Foxes are a rural pest but hunting with hounds is literally the least efficient way to control their population. People participating are also pretty much all rich twats so gently caress em Kegluneq fucked around with this message at 22:38 on May 12, 2017 |
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Skippy Granola posted:Just don't say "yellow-washed" anymore. It's icky and racist. Syfe posted:I agree that all countries should be held to that standard, I believe in it and multiculturalism. First of all, countries can't talk, and the claim that "the US supports multiculturalism" is an interesting one to make these days. This effort to draw a clear distinction between "multicultural" and "non-multicultural" countries is confusing to me, and I doubt it's particularly enlightening or helpful. Second, as someone who has first-hand experience of life in Japan as a foreigner, I wish that Japan had a lot better representation of non-ethnically Japanese people in its popular media, especially for the more marginalized groups of society. EDIT: Third, the Takarazuka Revue is amazing and if you ever have a chance you should definitely check out one of their shows, even if you can't understand the dialogue.
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Feinne posted:I would assume the deal is that foxes are cool and chasing one around on horses with dogs until they tear it limb from limb is barbaric as gently caress.  I thought the dog lead them to one and they shot it
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Pants Donkey posted:What's the deal with fox hunting? Are they endangered in the UK or something? Sounds like it's a class thing. Even Tory voters don't really care but it keeps ending up on their manifesto because TRADITION. There are, if anything, too many foxes in England, but rich people chasing them with hounds and shooting them is not an efficient way of controlling the population. Begemot fucked around with this message at 22:44 on May 12, 2017 |
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May 12, 2017 22:41
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Pants Donkey posted:What's the deal with fox hunting? Are they endangered in the UK or something? It's a bit of a misnomer - it's not illegal to hunt or kill a fox, other than usual animal cruelty laws. However, there is an old upper-class tradition of hunting foxes riding horses with large packs of aggressive dogs. They flush out the foxes, chase them, and tear them apart. Although the hunters carry guns, they generally don't actually shoot the foxes unless the dogs don't completely kill them. The practice was made illegal during the Blair years, as it is cruel. Naturally, the tories want to bring it back, as fleeting concepts like "ethics" may have no bearing on what games rich white people get to play.
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Cloks posted:Two things happened. A bad comic. It's good because of the art. I think the artist does superhero comics too.
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Pants Donkey posted:
I don't think you get how the British upper class works.
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Sandpuppy posted:
I thought this was a commentary on those god-awful Funko dolls that get made for every piece of media.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I thought this was a commentary on those god-awful Funko dolls that get made for every piece of media. It can be both
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As one of the twenty people who actually saw Ghost in the Shell it's funny as poo poo to include it with those others.
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May 12, 2017 23:44
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Feinne posted:As one of the twenty people who actually saw Ghost in the Shell it's funny as poo poo to include it with those others.
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With regards to fox hunting, it's very much a thing that the upper classes do to remind themselves of Better Times when People Knew Their Place. Foxes can be a pest in rural areas as they're quite good at getting into enclosures for smaller animals (chickens, rabbits) and killing the whole stock and only taking one as actual food. I can understand why foxes were considered worthy of extermination in the past where even one such break-in could cost you your livelihood, but now most people who keep animals on a small scale are doing it to teach little Noah exactly Where His Food Comes From. The fox hunt itself is pretty much a call-back to when people who owned the country rode horses. It's a big pageant of noise, colour and horsemanship to hunt something that basically fills the same ecological niche as a loving house cat. A pack of hounds will track the fox, followed by the inbred shitheads on horseback. If the hounds catch the fox in the open, it gets torn to shreds. If the fox goes to ground, then a small terrier is sent into whatever burrow to find the fox, latch on to it and make a lot of noise. The fox is then dug out and, again, usually thrown to the hounds. If you were actually interested in keeping control of the fox population, you would do the humane thing that is done with every other pest animal over a certain size and blow its brains out with a rifle from a reasonable distance. Having grown up in the British countryside I've developed a deep loathing for horsey people in general. It's like owning a gigantic dog that can poo poo everywhere at will and make a big loving deal of itself and owner every time you have to pass one when you're out for a walk. Also, pheasant shooting can also gently caress off. Congrats! You blew one of the stupidest animals in the history of living things out of the sky with your £20,000 shotgun!
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Or you can pull a Chaney and shoot a friend.
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Samurai Sanders posted:How come? I mean, I heard that its a multicultural cast but there's no getting away from the headliner being white. She's secretly a Japanese woman in a white woman's body, which makes it worse IMHO. gently caress that movie.
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Boogoose posted:£20,000 shotgun I have no doubt that, if I looked it up, I would find such a thing, but it would be far less jewel-encrusted than the one I'm picturing. EDIT - That would, in fact, be the minimum value of the one Dick Chaney used. DOUBLE EDIT - Engraved with gold plating isn't that far off on the Treasure Table, so I'm not completely disappointed, just disgusted. After The War fucked around with this message at 00:10 on May 13, 2017 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:How come? I mean, I heard that its a multicultural cast but there's no getting away from the headliner being white. The entire point of GITS is that the protagonist is in a fully artificial body and that she can change it if she wants to.
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After The War posted:I have no doubt that, if I looked it up, I would find such a thing, but it would be far less jewel-encrusted than the one I'm picturing. There are gunsmiths such as Purdey that hand-make bespoke pieces, usually in pairs. The tolerances are crazy tight and they usually have incredibly intricate engraving on metal parts. They are no more or less accurate than a £500 gat from Beretta, because it's a shotgun it don't need no accuracy and it's single action so reliability isn't much of an issue either.
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I'm figuring that some bespoke early 19th century piece (with hand crafted ammo) would really rub it in the faces of the new money.
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Improbable Lobster posted:She's secretly a Japanese woman in a white woman's body, which makes it worse IMHO. I mean in the GOOD GITS stuff she's been a cyborg for so long she has basically forgotten what she was originally like and just changes bodies to fit her mood, but I thought this movie ignored all of that.
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After The War posted:I have no doubt that, if I looked it up, I would find such a thing, but it would be far less jewel-encrusted than the one I'm picturing. The idea that Cheney thought he needed an Olympic-grade shotgun to hunt quail says a lot about the world.
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Cat Mattress posted:The entire point of GITS is that the protagonist is in a fully artificial body and that she can change it if she wants to. Literally every adaptation describes her as looking Japanese. Samurai Sanders posted:Are you serious? I thought someone said she got a cyborg body that looked like her old body. She never actually swaps how her body looks. Even when she's explicitly being put into a new body in Stand Alone Complex it looks exactly like her previous one.
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Improbable Lobster posted:She never actually swaps how her body looks. Even when she's explicitly being put into a new body in Stand Alone Complex it looks exactly like her previous one.  ? Granted one of those was because it was the only one that was available, but still.
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Samurai Sanders posted:
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Kegluneq posted:The 'new twist' is clearly that the Musketeers serve the Sun King and not his father like in the original story Actually, in Vingt Ans Après and Le Vicomte de Bragellone, Louis XIV is the king (albeit a kid under regency in the first). Furthermore, Ving Ans Après was always considered the important part of the story by Dumas, to the point where he adapted it simply as The Three Musketeers in theatres (later adapting the first novel as a prequel). Edit: 
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DreamShipWrecked posted:The idea that Cheney thought he needed an Olympic-grade shotgun to hunt quail says a lot about the world. Cage-raised quail. Whatever you think of Cheney's pastime, "hunting" is not a word that should be used to describe it.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Are you serious? I thought someone said she got a cyborg body that looked like her old body. The movie starts with the major being told her brain was originally saved from a dying racially-non specified/presumably white "refugee" called Mira Killian. In the third act she learns her brain was forcibly taken from a Japanese-ethnicity protester called Motoko Kusanagi. The whole film is a non-direct adaptation with lots of nods to the source material so it feels well-intentioned but obviously struck a sour note with a lot of people.
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Sardine Wit posted:The movie starts with the major being told her brain was originally saved from a dying racially-non specified/presumably white "refugee" called Mira Killian. In the third act she learns her brain was forcibly taken from a Japanese-ethnicity protester called Motoko Kusanagi. The whole film is a non-direct adaptation with lots of nods to the source material so it feels well-intentioned but obviously struck a sour note with a lot of people. I knew it was not a direct adaptation though (which is good), only that it had scenes from the old movie haphazardly crammed in anyway. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 02:10 on May 13, 2017 |
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