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howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Have Feige and crew whiffed on any of their casting? Even the people they've replaced have more been for behind the scenes poo poo than on camera performance

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Terrance Howard's cry babying is he only thing I can think of. Ed Norton hosed himself out of the MCU. Nobody seems to like Natalie Portman's Jane Foster either.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
I like Natalie Portman's Jane Foster.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
I mean...lotsa people don't like Natalie Portman as Jane Foster. Or so I hear.

And I'll go ahead and drudge up every single last grievance I have with Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One if I have to. :colbert:

howe_sam posted:

Pre-super serum Steve Rogers leaping on the dummy grenade is maybe my favorite character moment of his.
Agreed. This would definitely be in my top five, if not at the very top.

The climax of Civil War, starting from them meeting Zemo in the bunker, would be another top moment for me.

The entire highway sequence -> Bucky and Steve fight in Winter Soldier.

I'm inordinately fond of the whole Sokovia rescue game sequence in Age of Ultron. The moment where Fury shows up with the Helicarriers legit gets me in the groinals.

Danceoff -> everyone holding the Infinity Stone in GOTG just goshdarn works so well as the capoff to that movie, in defiance of all sense and rationale.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Rhyno posted:

Terrance Howard's cry babying

Hey! I liked Terrance Howard and wish he kept playing Rhodey

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Terence Howard wasn't able to return because he kept insisting that his appearance in Iron Man 1 counted as 2 movies and he needed a raise.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
While he might have been wrong about Iron Man 1 being two movies, he was an early Marvel Cinematic Universe actor, so he was probably right about deserving a raise.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Dan Didio posted:

While he might have been wrong about Iron Man 1 being two movies, he was an early Marvel Cinematic Universe actor, so he was probably right about deserving a raise.

If I remember correctly he already was the highest paid actor in Iron Man 1 and then he wanted even more money.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Yeah he actually did want a raise.

Him being literally batshit loving crazy and thinking he knows the secrets of the universe revealed by his plastic sculptures and that 1x1=1 is a conspiracy probably didn't factor in.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Aphrodite posted:

Yeah he actually did want a raise.

Him being literally batshit loving crazy and thinking he knows the secrets of the universe revealed by his plastic sculptures and that 1x1=1 is a conspiracy probably didn't factor in.

They should have offered to double his pay, pay him the same amount, and then quote Terryology.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

bobkatt013 posted:

If I remember correctly he already was the highest paid actor in Iron Man 1 and then he wanted even more money.

I was making a joke about how lovely Marvel treated the Avengers cast, but in Howard's defence, Hustle 'n' Flow was only a few years before and Robert Downey Jr. was poisonous, so he probably deserved to be paid the most and given it's Marvel studios we're talking about, he was probably right that he deserved more.

Shirkelton fucked around with this message at 00:25 on May 13, 2017

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Dan Didio posted:

I was making a joke about how lovely Marvel treated the Avengers cast, but in Howard's defence, Hustle 'n' Flow was only a few years before and Robert Downey Jr. was poisonous, so he probably deserved to be paid the most and given it's Marvel studios we're talking about, he was probably right that he deserved more.

He blames rdj getting more money

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



howe_sam posted:

Pre-super serum Steve Rogers leaping on the dummy grenade is maybe my favorite character moment of his.

Retro Futurist posted:

I'd give it to the first time he meets Banner on the Helicarrier.


I like that he's clearly not even being patronizing with it or anything and it's a such a perfect Cap beat.

These are good too, but I also love the "They're basically gods" and he follows up with "There's only one God, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't look like that". And of course the pre-serum stuff in The First Avenger. It's the little scenes and light character flair where he totally sells his WWII boyscout thing in his signature charming way.

Also I think Quill's little speech at the end of GotG2 might be my new favorite scene, it really stuck with me.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
My favourite moments in the MCU all kinda revolve around Cap as well (bar one or two) so echoing the praise for Evans because he really has the hardest job of the main cast. Everyone else has more inherently colourful characters to play as actors. Stark has the reformed playboy stuff, Loki is the wounded villain, Thor has the fish out of water in a more obvious way, Banner has the inner darkness as does Widow. Evans just has to be the guy who makes the right choice even when it's hard, yet still come off as down to earth and human.

I love the "I don't wanna kill anyone... I just don't like bullies"
I love the "This isn't freedom, this is fear"
I love the elevator fight in Winter Soldier.
I love basically every scene Evans has with Johannson.
I love "Captain's orders..."
I love the hammer moving ever so slightly when he tries to lift it in Avengers 2.
I ADORE the scene from Civil War where he tries to console Bucky by saying he wasn't in control when he did stuff for Hydra and Bucky just sadly goes "I still did it..."

I also really like We Are Groot from Guardians 1 and "He may be yer father, but he ain't yer daddy!" from Guardians 2
I like every time Kat Dennings mispronounces Mjolnir in the Thor films.
And I actually really like most of Renner's stuff from Avengers 2 and Civil War. They clicked with the idea of Clint as the average dude who's in over his head and talks poo poo because if he didn't he'd collapse into a foetal position.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Also I think Quill's little speech at the end of GotG2 might be my new favorite scene, it really stuck with me.

This is good too.

bobkatt013 posted:

He blames rdj getting more money

Which, no matter how much Howard made, Downey is like 97% of why that movie (and the MCU) worked, so no producer in their right mind is going to pay Howard more if it meant not getting RDJ again.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

bobkatt013 posted:

He blames rdj getting more money

This is the exact quote from Howard:

“We did a three-picture deal, so that means that you did the deal ahead of time. It was going to be a certain amount for the first one, a certain amount for the second one, a certain amount for the third. They came to me with the second and said, ‘Look, we will pay you one-eighth of what we contractually had for you, because we think the second one will be successful with or without you.’ And I called my friend – that I helped get the first job – and he didn’t call me back for three months.”

So no, not quite.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I really like the scene in Age of Ultron were Ultron is laying in the wrecked Streetcar and Wanda comes in and he says "Wanda, if you stay here, you'll die". In his crazy genocidal mind, he has this weird affection for her. Then she gets all crazy and tears our his heart, which would be something she'd do.

In Winter Soldier, when they have Sitwell on the roof and he's all "You won't push me off, you're Captain America!" and Cap is all "Well yea, but she will" and Sitwell realizes that yea, he's hosed because the Black Widow will do basically anything that is needed to be done. Then after she pushes Sitwell off the roof she just so casually asks if Steve would be interested in going out with a girl with a lip ring and he's all "Naw, that's too nutty".

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

twistedmentat posted:

I really like the scene in Age of Ultron were Ultron is laying in the wrecked Streetcar and Wanda comes in and he says "Wanda, if you stay here, you'll die". In his crazy genocidal mind, he has this weird affection for her. Then she gets all crazy and tears our his heart, which would be something she'd do.

The best one of these, which James Spader knocks out of the park throughout that film and deserved a far better script to support him, is when he responds to Wanda and Pietro with, "I used to wonder why only you two survived Strucker's experiments... now I don't."

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

twistedmentat posted:

I really like the scene in Age of Ultron were Ultron is laying in the wrecked Streetcar and Wanda comes in and he says "Wanda, if you stay here, you'll die". In his crazy genocidal mind, he has this weird affection for her. Then she gets all crazy and tears our his heart, which would be something she'd do.

In Winter Soldier, when they have Sitwell on the roof and he's all "You won't push me off, you're Captain America!" and Cap is all "Well yea, but she will" and Sitwell realizes that yea, he's hosed because the Black Widow will do basically anything that is needed to be done. Then after she pushes Sitwell off the roof she just so casually asks if Steve would be interested in going out with a girl with a lip ring and he's all "Naw, that's too nutty".

The Russos and their writers are loving geniuses because they clearly saw something in Evans' and Johannson's chemistry and those two just kill it as these two platonic buds who are so similar yet so different and just have a blast with each other.

I actually really like Tasha's bit in Civil War where she turns on Panther to help Steve get away because it feels very true to that relationship. More than the Banner romance, I believe that Steve is her bestie.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009
I have a soft spot for the "I'm always angry" scene in the first Avengers. I love that insight into Banner's struggle and then his destruction of the space worm with a single punch is just... wonderful.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I find Ruffalo's Banner to be incredibly boring. Say what you will about the Norton movie, but at least he was interesting. Ruffalo is "Aw, shucks" in wallpaper form.

Add me to the Evans fan list, but I also really like Sebastian Stan as Bucky/Winter Soldier. It's not a character I ever really warmed to in the comics, but I'd be okay with him taking up the shield when Evans wants out. Anthony Mackie too, though I think he was better in Winter Soldier than Civil War.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I was iffy on Stan to start with, but Civil War had me turn the corner on him. Pretty much everything after he recovers from Zemo triggering him is great.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Don Cheadle is the superior James Rhodes in this or any reality.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


In Fast 8 for a hot minute Dom turns into the Winter Soldier from that scene where he chases Nick Fury's car. It was nice to see the Winter Soldier again.

rantmo
Jul 30, 2003

A smile better suits a hero



Rhyno posted:

Don Cheadle is the superior James Rhodes in this or any reality.

It's one of Steven Soderburgh's rules, if you have the opportunity to cast Don Cheadle in your movie, you cast Don Cheadle in your movie. He's a better actor on his worst day than Howard will ever be on his best.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Al Borland Corp. posted:

In Fast 8 for a hot minute Dom turns into the Winter Soldier from that scene where he chases Nick Fury's car. It was nice to see the Winter Soldier again.

I'm sorry but you are incorrect because F8 Of The Furious is in fact the secret Guardians 1.5 #Family.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Stan is great but special kudos to whoever did the character design for the Winter Soldier in 2005 because Stan looks badass 10 years later in basically a one-to-one screen version of the look.

I just watched the bridge/knife fight scene again and Stan does such a great job of swaggering menace where you instantly buy that this guys is extremely dangerous.

E: In CW, when Bucky is choking out Natasha in the UN building, she says "at least recognize me". Was she referring to from Winter Soldier or was that a hint they worked together during her red ledger days?

zoux fucked around with this message at 03:28 on May 13, 2017

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

MacheteZombie posted:

Hey! I liked Terrance Howard and wish he kept playing Rhodey

He's legitimately crazy and hits women.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

Jamesman posted:

He's legitimately crazy and hits women.

Wait, are you talking Howard or Bucky?

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

bunnyofdoom posted:

Wait, are you talking Howard or Bucky?

Terrence Howard. He's been accused of it multiple times and has admitted to it at least once.

Omnomnomnivore
Nov 14, 2010

I'm swiftly moving toward a solution which pleases nobody! YEAGGH!

rantmo posted:

It's one of Steven Soderburgh's rules, if you have the opportunity to cast Don Cheadle in your movie, you cast Don Cheadle in your movie. He's a better actor on his worst day than Howard will ever be on his best.

Another great thing in IM3 is him running around in a lime polo. He looks like someone's action dad.

I just remembered how great the Zola scene in Winter Soldier is and I laughed.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

Dan Didio posted:

Terrence Howard. He's been accused of it multiple times and has admitted to it at least once.

I know. .....



I was just trying to distract from the incredibly depressing real life.

Yakmouth
Jan 20, 2016

Rhyno posted:

Don Cheadle is the superior James Rhodes in this or any reality.

Cheadle is obviously a better actor than Howard.
Cheadle is probably a better human being than Howard.
Howard is still my favourite Rhodes.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

Yakmouth posted:

Cheadle is obviously a better actor than Howard.
Cheadle is probably a better human being than Howard.
Howard is still my favourite Rhodes.

Counterpoint. Howard never put on a super super bad cockney accent to rob a casino with George Clooney three times

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009
If I can still get in a mention for "comic book movie that you liked but everyone else hated", I have to throw G.I. Joe: Retaliation into the ring.

The main story was something that could have easily been a comic plotline, while the ninja subplot was torn directly from Larry Hama's storylines.

On top of that, you've got the motherfuckin' Rock as your star power, with a sweet bromance in Channing Tatum. Then there's Jonathan Pryce chewing scenery with wild abandon, plus supporting characters Ray "Punisher/Titus Pullo" Stevenson, Elodie "Elektra" Yung, Ray "we know better than to let him talk" Park, and Bruce goddamned Willis. Oh, and RZA plays a blind ninja master.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
If I tell you guys that the Joss Whedon script for Wonder Woman was leaked here, do you all promise to not let the thread derail into arguing over whether or not Joss and/or his non-comics works suck?

GokuGoesSSj69
Apr 15, 2017
Weak people spend 10 dollars to gift titles about world leaders they dislike. The strong spend 10 dollars to gift titles telling everyone to play Deus Ex again
So here is a question I thought was interesting. Me and some friends were talking about a non existent campy Batman movie and we all agreed Adam DeVine should be campy Robin, but we couldn't decide on Batman. Who do you guys think it should be? The general consensus was Chris Pratt but he's obviously already doing Marvel movies.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:

So here is a question I thought was interesting. Me and some friends were talking about a non existent campy Batman movie and we all agreed Adam DeVine should be campy Robin, but we couldn't decide on Batman. Who do you guys think it should be? The general consensus was Chris Pratt but he's obviously already doing Marvel movies.

Will Arnett

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand

Argue posted:

If I tell you guys that the Joss Whedon script for Wonder Woman was leaked here, do you all promise to not let the thread derail into arguing over whether or not Joss and/or his non-comics works suck?
It's actually been floating around the 'net for a while now.

My thoughts on it are......mixed..........though in the broadest nutshell they can be summed up as "This feels exactly like a script written by someone who just read his first Wonder Woman comic a day or two before writing it."

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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Nic Cage.

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