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Samurai Sanders posted:Oh wow that's a lot more interesting than I thought from reviews, but I guess they couldn't spoil it. I'll still wait until I can watch it for free though. Interesting twist that could've been good, but was seriously mishandled. (major spoilers, obviously) 
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eviltastic posted:Interesting twist that could've been good, but was seriously mishandled. (major spoilers, obviously)
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Man, y'all are really over-analyzing this. It's a Hollywood movie, when this project first started coming together some studio executive said this needs a recognizable Hollywood star and everything else is just working around that. That executive had no objective other than profit, having someone like Scarlett Johansson as the lead will drag more butts into theater seats. Whatever creative decisions were made around the character are utterly secondary.
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Rebel Blob posted:Man, y'all are really over-analyzing this. It's a Hollywood movie, when this project first started coming together some studio executive said this needs a recognizable Hollywood star and everything else is just working around that. That executive had no objective other than profit, having someone like Scarlett Johansson as the lead will drag more butts into theater seats. Whatever creative decisions were made around the character are utterly secondary. I dunno that interview above makes a good point that these days if you really just care about profit you'd make the lead chinese for that sweet sweet chinese market dosh.
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May 13, 2017 05:33
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I'm not a fatalist about characters in action movies either, it is totally possible to make them relatable and internally consistent. Those are the only kind of action movies I want to watch.
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reignonyourparade posted:I dunno that interview above makes a good point that these days if you really just care about profit you'd make the lead chinese for that sweet sweet chinese market dosh. Yeah, but since when has Hollywood ever (successfully) directly aimed at the Chinese market? That would require a willingness to take risks and try new things, neither of which align too well with remaking a classic anime franchise but in live action.
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Rebel Blob posted:Man, y'all are really over-analyzing this. The thread has been clinging to things a lot lately. When that happens, it's best to throw a lot of politoons at the problem.   All hail president cookie!   What, me warming?
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May 13, 2017 06:05
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Another stinker from JR Rose, gently caress his cutesy grandpa bullshit
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Rebel Blob posted:Man, y'all are really over-analyzing this. It's a Hollywood movie, when this project first started coming together some studio executive said this needs a recognizable Hollywood star and everything else is just working around that. That executive had no objective other than profit, having someone like Scarlett Johansson as the lead will drag more butts into theater seats. Whatever creative decisions were made around the character are utterly secondary. Alternatively, GITS is already one of the better known series out there and the movie could've been a starmaker for some asian actress. Instead they alienated a huge chunk of the people who were most likely to go see the movie.
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Kit Walker posted:Alternatively, GITS is already one of the better known series out there and the movie could've been a starmaker for some asian actress. Instead they alienated a huge chunk of the people who were most likely to go see the movie. If I remember who they cast to play her in the flashbacks later in the movie I'm pretty sure they basically cast the person they probably would have cast for the role overall if things had been different. I'll admit to actually liking the movie while also noting that I like a lot of things that are objectively poo poo. Feinne fucked around with this message at 06:20 on May 13, 2017 |
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May 13, 2017 06:15
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Fates End posted:Yeah, but since when has Hollywood ever (successfully) directly aimed at the Chinese market? That would require a willingness to take risks and try new things, neither of which align too well with remaking a classic anime franchise but in live action. Pacific Rim was Warner's most successful movie in China ever. E: If Hollywood didn't have a long and storied history of casting white actors to play non-white characters then no one would care about Ghost in the Shell. Unfortunately, that's not the case, Hollywood is racist as hell and Ghost in the Shell is just another lovely movie to toss on the whitewashed pile. Improbable Lobster fucked around with this message at 06:22 on May 13, 2017 |
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May 13, 2017 06:19
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Also I didn't realize the first GiTS movie was considered a classic but basically every movie has described it that way. It doesn't even have a remastered version far as I know. I watched it on Amazon here a bit ago to remember what it was like and it was basically the same quality as the VHS tape I had when I was in high school.
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May 13, 2017 06:34
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KillerJunglist posted:The thread has been clinging to things a lot lately. When that happens, it's best to throw a lot of politoons at the problem. How much of a hateful rear end in a top hat do you have to be for this to pop in your brain as you think up your yearly vapid holiday cartoon.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Also I didn't realize the first GiTS movie was considered a classic but basically every movie has described it that way. It doesn't even have a remastered version as far as I know. I watched it a bit ago to remember what it was like and it was basically the same quality as the VHS tape I had when I was in high school. There was a remastering in 2008 called GitS 2.0 and a new blu ray remaster in 2014.
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Improbable Lobster posted:There was a remastering in 2008 called GitS 2.0 and a new blu ray remaster in 2014. edit: oh huh, there is a bluray version in Japan that came out just last month. Reviews make it sound like not very good visual quality though. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 06:49 on May 13, 2017 |
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May 13, 2017 06:38
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For the record, the study being referred to here is bullshit even by nutrition science standards, which are already pretty low.
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Discendo Vox posted:For the record, the study being referred to here is bullshit even by nutrition science standards, which are already pretty low. That's just what big soda wants you to think. You should drink healthier like Tinsley and intoxicate yourself on a regular basis.
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Rebel Blob posted:Man, y'all are really over-analyzing this. It's a Hollywood movie, when this project first started coming together some studio executive said this needs a recognizable Hollywood star and everything else is just working around that. That executive had no objective other than profit, having someone like Scarlett Johansson as the lead will drag more butts into theater seats. Whatever creative decisions were made around the character are utterly secondary. That's actually the problem. There *are* no big name leading ladies of Japanese descent (or,uh, "close enough for Hollywood" like Korean or something.) And why is that? Because Hollywood doesn't put forward minority women in "leading lady/man" roles, so they don't get famous enough. Minority actors tend to get stuck in "character" roles. Despite audiences being perfectly fine with Asian stars (remember the "kung fu" craze?)
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Samurai Sanders posted:Also I didn't realize the first GiTS movie was considered a classic but basically every movie has described it that way. It doesn't even have a remastered version far as I know. I watched it on Amazon here a bit ago to remember what it was like and it was basically the same quality as the VHS tape I had when I was in high school. I dont think the original animation cels even exist anymore. And getting people to redraw all of it would be prohibitively expensive for a remaster.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Also I didn't realize the first GiTS movie was considered a classic but basically every movie has described it that way. It doesn't even have a remastered version far as I know. I watched it on Amazon here a bit ago to remember what it was like and it was basically the same quality as the VHS tape I had when I was in high school. As a piece of animation it's amazing. As a narrative trying to explore themes almost every adaptation or remake has done it way better than the original film ever did. Stand Alone Complex is kind of the only GitS you ever really need to see, unless you really need to see the pretty animation.
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SeANMcBAY posted:How much of a hateful rear end in a top hat do you have to be for this to pop in your brain as you think up your yearly vapid holiday cartoon.
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GitS and Innocence are both masterpieces and lean heavy on symbolism, philosophy and atmosphere. Stand Alone Complex, 2nd GIG and Solid State Society are pretty straightforward sci-fi anime, though they do keep some of the less abstract philosophy and diverge in interesting ways from the movie. The Arise OVAs and The New Movie aren't great. They're basically SAC but without any interesting philosophy and some seriously questionable writing. The original manga is pretty bad. It's tonally all over the place and not really worth reading. The live action film is the 2017 version of the live action Aeon Flux.
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Improbable Lobster posted:GitS and Innocence are both masterpieces and lean heavy on symbolism, philosophy and atmosphere. Stand Alone Complex, 2nd GIG and Solid State Society are pretty straightforward sci-fi anime, though they do keep some of the less abstract philosophy and diverge in interesting ways from the movie. The Arise OVAs and The New Movie aren't great. They're basically SAC but without any interesting philosophy and some seriously questionable writing. The original manga is pretty bad. It's tonally all over the place and not really worth reading.
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Apple Pie Hubbub posted:
Gee, do you think the outrage might have something to do with the fact that Comey was investigating the guy who fired him? That can't be it. You stupid motherfucker.
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There's something great(?) seeing someone post Chuck Asay cartoons on a Finnish forum and instinctively knowing they must be a goon.
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Openly colluding with Russia and being Nixon... is good!
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 Guardian:  "Martin Rowson on Theresa May and the Labour manifesto – Conservative leader accuses Jeremy Corbyn of ‘deserting proud and patriotic working-class people’" Telegraph:  Eurovision Song Contest 2017 tonight!  Independent:  After Rubens. The i paper:  Corbyn pledges ‘triple commitment’ to defence, development and diplomacy Times:  Stephen Collins: 
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Because you've made me call you "mommy" since I was born?quote:
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Macaroons are those cookies, yes. A macaron is the light airy cookie. And Macron is the French President (Prime Minister?)
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Manuel Calavera posted:Macaroons are those cookies, yes. A macaron is the light airy cookie. And Macron is the French President (Prime Minister?) Lord Protector.
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HootTheOwl posted:Trump is drowning. underappreciated Mountain Goats reference, 11/10 would read the whole thing
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Manuel Calavera posted:Macaroons are those cookies, yes. A macaron is the light airy cookie. And Macron is the French President (Prime Minister?) I feel like there could be a Paul McCartney joke in this somewhere.
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I have cheerled for Republicans for years. The current president is a Republican and an objectively terrible person and president. The rest of the Republicans are allowing this. How can I resolve this cognitive dissonance?  ah.... retreat into fantasy
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Boy is he gonna feel stupid when Hillary doesn't run again. Just kidding, he'll keep pumping out Hunny Bunny comics until the heat death of the universe
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Kit Walker posted:Boy is he gonna feel stupid when Hillary doesn't run again. Just kidding, he'll keep pumping out Hunny Bunny comics until the heat death of the universe If it hadn't so badly hosed us, it would be funny how incredibly, searingly mad this one woman made the entire right wing and a good portion of the left as well.
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