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Ending spoilers: I was disappointed in the direction of the ending, but for the one that was there, I dug it. I kind of figured what it was when the second half started delving into "what is a person" kind of questioning and how Morgan was essentially a different person each time she had her memories wiped. I was personally hoping it'd all end up in a courtroom and showing the political and ethical ramifications for those kinds of experiments and the Pandora's box it'd open for governments and other corporations to exploit. However, that said, I think the gameplay potential for a sequel is really good. You can have two protagonists or even coop if you wanted. The fate of the real Morgan is ambiguous and I wouldn't be surprised it was her idea to put her own memories and genetic material into a Typhon given that it's mentioned through-out the game that she has a massive ego (so she'd essentially have two of her running around), so her showing up in the beginning of the next game and you choosing to be real Morgan with a human skill tree or Typhon Morgan with the Typhon skill tree seems like it would be really cool. Or if it's coop you and your buddy play as each one.
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Why are these people acting like blowing up the station will stop the Typhon? They were around long before the Soviet space program encountered one and will be around long after Talos 1 is dust. Killing this particular nexus of Typhon activity won't deal with all the ones who have already scattered into other orbits, or the ones who have been floating around the system since before humanity evolved.
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May 13, 2017 03:04
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The Lone Badger posted:Why are these people acting like blowing up the station will stop the Typhon? They were around long before the Soviet space program encountered one and will be around long after Talos 1 is dust. Killing this particular nexus of Typhon activity won't deal with all the ones who have already scattered into other orbits, or the ones who have been floating around the system since before humanity evolved. ENDING SPOILERS I bet the actual events were that they really blew up Talos 1 and that actually precipitated the Earth infestation
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May 13, 2017 03:06
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:ENDING SPOILERS I bet the actual events were that they really blew up Talos 1 and that actually precipitated the Earth infestation maybe, if in the original run Alex acted differently and left the station.
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May 13, 2017 03:10
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There were a number of books throughout the game that you could find detailing on "Evacuation". It sounded like Earth fought some war before the events of the game. Is this ever explained in detail?
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May 13, 2017 03:12
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There is some other lore about Russia invading India, I think they may be discussing the same thing
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Ending thoughts: I actually didn't see the sim twist coming, but I did get a suspicion that you aren't actually morgan or was actually becoming a hybrid typhon/human. I would have liked more detail on what originally happened instead of just "earth is hosed lol". It at least made me think about what happened during the game and what was actually true, which can't be said for most endings these days. The thing I didn't like was the gameplay leading up to it. Once dahl showed up I stopped having fun. The strength of the game is really the middle section where you have a few powers and are just exploring the station. The combat was serviceable enough, but I had the most fun when I was gloo-gunning my way into things or finding weird solutions to problems. Everything after dahl felt like a complete pace change and it just didn't work like I think they wanted to. I got bored very quickly of stun gunning operators, and eventually started leaving them broken so they wouldn't respawn right away.
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May 13, 2017 03:20
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(endgame) The fact that the operators don't go away if you hack Kaspar is dumb. It doesn't seem to actually do anything at all.
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May 13, 2017 03:23
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Kraftwerk posted:There were a number of books throughout the game that you could find detailing on "Evacuation". It sounded like Earth fought some war before the events of the game. Is this ever explained in detail? I don't think there's anything explicit, but Elazar's session with the therapist suggests that it was some massive scientific-industrial accident, from the written accounts it sounds like a mishap with the future tech you see in use, maybe something to do with molecular physics (planes disintegrating, etc). There are some references to a "Transtar North" disaster but it's unclear if it's the same thing.
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May 13, 2017 03:30
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Shows how much of a wimp Isaac was, strapped into the machine freaking out as a single needle is lowered into his eye. Morgan looks at the neuromod injector for a second and then sticks it in like it's nothing. Then does it 100 more times. Doesn't she also use it "wrong"? She stabs her eye with the needles already extended, rather then first bringing the device to her eye and only then pressing the needle release?
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May 13, 2017 03:53
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There's also a huge portrait in one of the offices adjacent to Morgan's that depicts a Transtar facility on (presumably Earth) overrun with greenery and it seems in general disrepair.
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May 13, 2017 03:58
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Rinkles posted:Doesn't she also use it "wrong"? She stabs her eye with the needles already extended, rather then first bringing the device to her eye and only then pressing the needle release? Yes, I think she does.
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May 13, 2017 04:08
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Is there any functional difference between the Margrave and the Shotgun? Or does it just have gold inlay and the same innards?
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May 13, 2017 04:13
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Another funny thing about the ending the Apex is gigantic and apparently flew through space to get to the station. Why do they think blowing up the station will stop Typhon from getting to earth when the apex could literally just fly there?
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So I beat the game while being almost completely human. I put one point into mimic to get access to a few rooms  The thing that happens about 3/4ths of the way through with Dahl showing up would have sucked a whole lot more if I didn't do the satellite thing beforehand, so I just summoned my extremely large friend in the shuttle bay and atmospheric processing to distract all the goddamn murder drones Concerning the tracking bracelets that the crew wear. Dahl specifically mentions him closing in on your brother. Does ditching your brother's collar in the rear end end of nowhere have any impact on the quantity of drones you encounter? When I deactivated my collar I also ditched Alex's next to the to the recycler in Deep Storage. After that the only time I really encountered any quantity of the drones were at designated ambush spots or around objectives, the rest were just from the operator dispensers
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May 13, 2017 04:37
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n4 posted:Another funny thing about the ending the Apex is gigantic and apparently flew through space to get to the station. Why do they think blowing up the station will stop Typhon from getting to earth when the apex could literally just fly there? Maybe it can't re enter atmosphere?
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n4 posted:Another funny thing about the ending the Apex is gigantic and apparently flew through space to get to the station. Why do they think blowing up the station will stop Typhon from getting to earth when the apex could literally just fly there? Is it possible to scan the Apex? I only managed to scan the tendrils.
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Finished this after 28 hours, really enjoyed it. It had pretty much all my favorite elements from Dishonored and System Shock. I have a question about one of the lategame sidequests, after Dahl shows up: You get a sidequest to help a guy whose surname is Glass, who says he's trapped in the trauma center. When you get there it's full of blackbox operators, and his corpse is on the central operating table. To me it seemed like he is always dead no matter what you do, but I swear I hear him calling you when you first enter the room, and the quest text seems to imply you could save him. Was anyone able to do it? I agree with the sentiment that the gameplay drags a bit towards the end. There's so many of those blackbox enemies, it feels like the only really viable way to fight them is either Electroshock or a lot of disruptor ammo, and it gets very repetitive. Blocking the fabricators to stop more from being made was very fiddly, and it felt like bullshit that stopping Kaspar doesn't neutralize them somehow. I liked the ending, it was a twist that I didn't see coming. I think the operators are definitely backups of dead people. If the game wanted to imply they were alive it would have been a lot easier to show them observing via a Looking Glass screen or something. I saved everyone and went for maximum empathy, got typhon hand turning human. Oh and someone was asking about easter eggs on the moon. I definitely saw at one point a grid of lights on the dark side, like there was a big formation of structures. There is also a log somewhere from a shuttle pilot that mentions seeing a mysterious structure, but I don't know if that's meant to be on the moon or some secret listening post in space.
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Cicadalek posted:Finished this after 28 hours, really enjoyed it. It had pretty much all my favorite elements from Dishonored and System Shock. Kill all the operators and shortly afterwards you should get an objective complete ping. Then check the quest log again. If you've seen it, or it doesn't trigger: They pranked you with a recording. It got me too. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 06:25 on May 13, 2017 |
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His body had always been there. I investigated despite remembering vaguely that I saw Glass on a death list. Showed me.
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The Lone Badger posted:Is there any functional difference between the Margrave and the Shotgun? Or does it just have gold inlay and the same innards? It just looks cooler.
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For anyone that gives a poo poo, following the patch, IGN updated its review score to an 8/10 (from the previous 4).
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The Lone Badger posted:Is it possible to scan the Apex? I only managed to scan the tendrils. No  Rinkles posted:For anyone that gives a poo poo, following the patch, IGN updated its review score to an 8/10 (from the previous 4). Only one point less then DA2  Stapleton @ IGN can stop being passive aggressive on Twitter now. At least the higher score might convince more people to buy it. That's good. I'm going to go back through the thread shortly and answer any questions that got missed, if there are any I can answer. ---- The Lone Badger posted:Why are these people acting like blowing up the station will stop the Typhon? They were around long before the Soviet space program encountered one and will be around long after Talos 1 is dust. Killing this particular nexus of Typhon activity won't deal with all the ones who have already scattered into other orbits, or the ones who have been floating around the system since before humanity evolved. I'm just guessing and it could be a plot hole, or it might just buy some time, but perhaps they can't enter atmosphere without burning up. Mindblast posted:Im one of the folk with corrupted saves. My Neuromod division was broken and I couldnt do some interesting sidequest things in there as a result. Now December is destroyed because I was forced to move on. I'm not sure if that was the cause of death though. My questions are essentially whether or not I now missed out on some interesting quests, if this changed things down the line and if I am still early enough in the game that a restart is not a bad idea. Are you on PC? If so try entering the Neuromod division again with the Steam patch applied. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 06:58 on May 13, 2017 |
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The Lone Badger posted:Is it possible to scan the Apex? I only managed to scan the tendrils. It is possible, it's just an enormous pain in the rear end and not worth it You instantly die when the scan completes
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Bolow posted:It is possible, it's just an enormous pain in the rear end and not worth it 1. How did you do it? 2. Laaaaaaaaaaaame. It should have at least given something cool.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:1. How did you do it? Arboretum, the actual main body of it is moving around up there, it's a giant pain in the dick to do it, the scan speed mod helps immensely
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Mimir posted:Okay I'm done, I've gotta return this Redbox, and I have a few questions . These might've been explained but if so I totally missed it. If this got answered already I'm sorry I missed it. I didn't see any logs relating to how the outbreak started, but I'm guessing a fair amount of it is similar to the simulation. There is a quest to find the cook. He might only respawn if you do it, I'm not sure. The quest is to find him and take him out, by using the security panel in the volunteer quarters to track him. No idea how he knew that. Maybe he's paranoid or had been digging into people's emails? That's interesting about the unidentified object. Maybe someone else will know.
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CJacobs posted:If you just want a hint: It's closer to where the game started than you might think. I'm going to punch Alex the moment I see him.
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The cook went to the escape pods in the Bridge area where he has a recycler bomb trap to suicide kill you. If you disarm it he dies anyway though
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:The cook went to the escape pods in the Bridge area where he has a recycler bomb trap to suicide kill you. If you disarm it he dies anyway though Ohhhhh what happens if you disarm it?
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Ohhhhh what happens if you disarm it? he just laughs at you for a long time and then drops dead apropos of nothing. I was disappointed I couldn't mind control him.
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That's strange though, I'll take it. I kept finding recycler bombs attached to doors. I wonder if taking him out as soon as you see him prevents that.
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Bolow posted:Arboretum, the actual main body of it is moving around up there, it's a giant pain in the dick to do it, the scan speed mod helps immensely drat. It doesn't even look like there's an achievement for it.
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Basic Chunnel posted:I don't think there's anything explicit, but Elazar's session with the therapist suggests that it was some massive scientific-industrial accident, from the written accounts it sounds like a mishap with the future tech you see in use, maybe something to do with molecular physics (planes disintegrating, etc). There are some references to a "Transtar North" disaster but it's unclear if it's the same thing. I probably haven't read all the Evacuation Day memoirs yet but that sounds about right. My own theory was grey goo and nanomachine research would've been banned because of it, which would partly explain Transtar's interest in alien poo poo. However if nanomachines were actually a thing in this setting, they'd probably be loving around with those on Talos-1 too, and I've yet to see any evidence of that. It's probably better if they keep it a little mysterious.
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My inventory no longer auto stacks spare parts. Anyone else experiencing this? Inv management is a chore at the best of times but it's even more tiresome now.
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IDK if people had different experience, but when I took out Dahl and Kaspar, the military operators stopped except for the ones outside the station. Though to be fair I was kind of running away from everything at this point in the game.
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Antti posted:I probably haven't read all the Evacuation Day memoirs yet but that sounds about right. My own theory was grey goo and nanomachine research would've been banned because of it, which would partly explain Transtar's interest in alien poo poo. However if nanomachines were actually a thing in this setting, they'd probably be loving around with those on Talos-1 too, and I've yet to see any evidence of that. There are three total books, and there's a lot of context clues that pin it down (I think). Here's what I've got: There's a loading screen hint which references the Evacuation as leading to a reform in the usage of recyclers, which implies that it was indeed some kind of grey goo incident. The dog's name in the first book is Aleeza which the author translates to "Joy", google says it could be either Hebrew or Arabic but the Hebrew specifically says Joy. The author mentions compulsory military service and drives a M35 truck in the story. Based on the Hebrew, the conscription, and the M35 (US military model truck), I'm going to say it happened in Israel. I think that Transtar North was a different thing, because that would be a weird name for an Israeli facility, but who knows. edit: oh and there are bomb shelters in the city, which is another Israeli thing. Gadzuko fucked around with this message at 10:10 on May 13, 2017 |
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n4 posted:Another funny thing about the ending the Apex is gigantic and apparently flew through space to get to the station. misread Apex as Alex and just about died laughing.
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