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jabby posted:BBC news just went to Jeremy Corbyn's comment on the cyber attacks. They played the part where he condemned the attackers and cut away the second before he launched an attack on Hunt and the government for letting it happen. at least they didn't include the bit at the end where he clarified that if any of the patients involved were soldiers then that was okay because he wishes them to die, he wishes them all dead, and then began cackling with glee
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jabby posted:BBC news just went to Jeremy Corbyn's comment on the cyber attacks. They played the part where he condemned the attackers and cut away the second before he launched an attack on Hunt and the government for letting it happen. No you see the BBC has a left wing bias because
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Scikar posted:No, they should develop their own EHR system (or at least, the state should) so that they aren't reliant on a 15 year desktop OS to run their outdated software package. The government was going to force every government department to use open source software, but that mysteriously went away just as they signed a new contract with MS. Nothing at all dodgy about that, we live in a completely corruption free country and not one that has been described as the 'most corrupt place on Earth'.
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ukle posted:Ohh FFS. Just found out my area is one where the Lib Dems and Greens have colluded, and despite the Lib Dem's being second in every election bar 2015 they aren't going to stand in the 2017 election. It makes no sense and completely blows my intention to tactically vote Lib Dem. Skipton? They've abandoned a punt at one of the safest Tory seats to get the greens off he ticket in Harrogate, where they have a better chance cause its on of the few Yorkshire boroughs that went remain and they used to hold the seat.
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Another poll, fieldwork done day before/day of the manifesto leak so unlikely to take account of any impact. https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/863385528938500097
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Alchenar posted:There's a range of competing products at decent prices that all work. Please, tell me more about the 'market'.
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Cerv posted:but if they dropped the income tax plan on the UK party's say so, that'd take them back to the "branch office of London" criticism. It's a Westminster election. Whether or not ScotLab are a branch office or not doesn't matter, Edinburgh doesn't decide national policy. If Scottish Labour want to disaffiliate from the Labour Party and go the way of the SDLP, as a sister party, do that. But until they do, they don't get to direct their own policies at Westminster.
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East Timor strikes me as one of the less defensible interventions, oddly enough, because so much of it is transparently about Australia's regional imperialism vs Indonesia's regional imperialism. The former has the notable benefit of being less genocidal than the latter, but Good Leftists don't normally approve of armed intervention merely on that basis. the main difference between Indonesia's armed annexation of Netherlands New Guinea in 1962 and Indonesia's armed annexation of East Timor in 1975 is that Indonesia annexed the former as a Soviet-aligned state and annexed the latter as a American-aligned state; thus the former is anticolonial liberation and the latter is imperialism masquerading as anticolonial liberation ronya fucked around with this message at 14:44 on May 13, 2017 |
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Cerv posted:but if they dropped the income tax plan on the UK party's say so, that'd take them back to the "branch office of London" criticism. It's a Westminster election. Whether or not ScotLab are a branch office or not doesn't matter, Edinburgh doesn't decide national policy. If Scottish Labour want to disaffiliate from the Labour Party and go the way of the SDLP, as a sister party, do that. But until they do, they don't get to direct their own policies at Westminster. Alchenar posted:That market is working just fine here. The Labour moderate ladies & gentlemen. Nothing is more sacrosanct than the glorious market. I preferred when Labour was driven by Christianity than free market fundamentalism to be honest. ronya posted:East Timor strikes me as one of the less defensible interventions, oddly enough, because so much of it is transparently about Australia's regional imperialism vs Indonesia's regional imperialism. The former has the notable benefit of being less genocidal than the latter, but Good Leftists don't normally approve of armed intervention merely on that basis. You don't understand the left at all, do you?
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kustomkarkommando posted:Skipton? They've abandoned a punt at one of the safest Tory seats to get the greens off he ticket in Harrogate, where they have a better chance cause its on of the few Yorkshire boroughs that went remain and they used to hold the seat. Yes. Its why I am annoyed, we are the pawns for Lib Dem's bigger game. They were probably going to come second in both seats, but now they will come second in just 1 as despite Harrogate going remain they stand almost no chance in hell of winning the seat now. While in Skipton they stood no chance of winning but they would have been the second largest, as they almost always were. Now its going to be Labour in second place, as per 2015, but there is no chance in hell of Labour ever winning this seat despite it being where a few of the founders of Labour were from. While the guy who is standing for the greens seems from the good side of the party and a good candidate (formal local college deputy principle) I just cant vote for a party that has such complete bat poo poo insane policies as the Greens now have and I expect many others round here to feel the same.
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ukle posted:Yes. Its why I am annoyed, we are the pawns for Lib Dem's bigger game. They were probably going to come second in both seats, but now they will come second in just 1 as despite Harrogate going remain they stand almost no chance in hell of winning the seat now. It doesn't really matter who comes in second in FPTP though?
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forkboy84 posted:It's a Westminster election. Whether or not ScotLab are a branch office or not doesn't matter, Edinburgh doesn't decide national policy. It's that Dugdale's position though? She says Scottish Labour would raise the 1p in the Scottish parliament. But in the Westminster parliament their MP(s) will follow the nations party manifesto and not raise taxes for income under £80k
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ukle posted:Yes. Its why I am annoyed, we are the pawns for Lib Dem's bigger game. They were probably going to come second in both seats, but now they will come second in just 1 as despite Harrogate going remain they stand almost no chance in hell of winning the seat now. Why do you think the Lib Dems would go back to coming second? Most signs point to this election going the same way as 2015 for them, or possibly even worse.
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Wasn't this ransomware basically just a general virus that happened to infect some NHS computers due to them being very out of date? The amount of damage that someone could do with a directed attack on the NHS, either to steal sensitive data or by intentionally shutting down hospitals until a ransom is paid is truly terrifying.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Wasn't this ransomware basically just a general virus that happened to infect some NHS computers due to them being very out of date? The amount of damage that someone could do with a directed attack on the NHS, either to steal sensitive data or by intentionally shutting down hospitals until a ransom is paid is truly terrifying. But enough about the conservatives.
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Amber Rudd has responded to Labour's accusations on the NHS.The Guardian posted:And in a final swipe against Labour, she said: “Should you have any concerns about the security of the Labour Party’s own systems, GCHQ stand ready to provide a briefing on how best to minimise the risk of a successful attack.” What kind of burn is that?
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jabby posted:Amber Rudd has responded to Labour's accusations on the NHS. I don't understand what she's actually trying to say.
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Praseodymi posted:Have we talked about this loving disgusting piece from the Scum? https://twitter.com/therubykid/status/863331572010897408
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Did some campaigning this morning in a Labour leaning area. Quite a few I spoke to were already voting Labour and there were lots of cars honking at the banner, but there was a fair share of people who wouldn't talk, but it's hard to know whether that was because they were voting for someone else or they didn't care about politics. A fair number of people saying they weren't voting Labour because of Corbyn, but also several saying they were voting for the local candidate anyway. Quite a few voters generally for whom Brexit transcended usual party lines; they want a hard Brexit and are prepared to switch their voting to make sure they get it - 'standing up to Brussels' or 'fighting against Europe' came up a bit. One angry Brexiteer (stereotypical human thumb) had voted Labour all his life, but wasn't going to this time, because Corbyn "doesn't have the loving balls to stick two fingers up at Brussels" so I guess he was going UKIP or the Conservatives. There's a lot of people who have bought the 'us vs them' rhetoric on Europe sadly. Praseodymi posted:Have we talked about this loving disgusting piece from the Scum? https://twitter.com/therubykid/status/863331572010897408 gently caress me. That is such a bizarre article. Such a misleading piece also, in that Palestine, Malaya, Berlin and Yangtze all happened before he was born. The entire first column happened before he was 18. Biggus Dickus posted:They are stored encrypted rather than hashed because websites expect them in plain text. All browsers do this. Isn't the difference that Chrome doesn't offer encryption of its password database with a master password? Regarde Aduck posted:The few times i've been to hospital the medical staff were all lovely but the reception staff treated everyone like scum and were always in foul moods. This is some sort of universal law of medicine.
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Prince John posted:This is some sort of universal law of medicine. I've seen the exact opposite a few times.
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Prince John posted:Such a misleading piece also, in that Palestine, Malaya, Berlin and Yangtze all happened before he was born. The entire first column happened before he was 18.
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jBrereton posted:How do we feel about the Konfrontasi? It was a much nearer thing than is conventionally realised. I'm not sure Harold Wilson would really have been prepared to endure what could have been a horribly murderous land war in Borneo. The problem was that 1962 had given Jakarta the impression that 1) it was really, really easy to play the US against the European powers, and 2) it was really, really easy to intimidate collapsing European powers into peacefully giving up by marching some troops around, and 3) the Soviets would be willing to back him up with actual men on the ground. Arguably none of this was true by 1965, but Sukarno could hardly deny the increasingly restive PKI anyway. Thus the entire region was blindly hurtling toward the biggest British build-up outside the West German border in Europe itself, stacked against tens of thousands of Indonesian troops. In the meanwhile Malaysia itself was disintegrating under ethnic pressures. It did not seem that this British-invented federation would last much longer than the one of Rhodesia and Nyasaland, which was itself violently collapsing, in a way that Britain was publicly refusing to fight. But Britain actually was pouring soldiers into Borneo. Britain let Rhodesia and Nyasaland disintegrate for different reasons (cough the spectre of a Tory government sending British troops to shoot white people cough), but not reasons that Jakarta could readily grasp - from Jakarta's perspective Britain was plainly signalling that its commitment was nominal at best. ronya fucked around with this message at 15:55 on May 13, 2017 |
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big scary monsters posted:Also Microsoft have taken the unusual step of releasing the Windows XP patch for this vulnerability publicly, for free. So I guess actually the cost of solving the NHS' IT problems is £0! Yeah I was gonna say, apparently XP was vulnerable to this after all Microsoft posted:We also know that some of our customers are running versions of Windows that no longer receive mainstream support. That means those customers will not have received the above mentioned Security Update released in March. Given the potential impact to customers and their businesses, we made the decision to make the Security Update for platforms in custom support only, Windows XP, Windows 8, and Windows Server 2003, broadly available for download (see links below). XP wasn't mentioned as affected on the advisories when the exploit was released, but it looks like that was more of a 'gently caress it, who cares XP is dead' position. Microsoft probably patched it for all their special support customers back in March, which doesn't include the NHS anymore of course. Taste those efficiency savings
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On a day that should be a gift to Labour, the second biggest news item is Tom Watson basically admitting defeat in the election. I predict a lot more acts of self-sabotage in the next few weeks, as the Labour right realise that 'letting Corbyn fail on his own' is actually leading to steadily rising poll numbers.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Jeremy Hunt. I wonder which form of shrubbery he's hiding behind at this moment in time. Regardless of the final outcome of the election, I pray to loving god he's not re-elected. jabby posted:On a day that should be a gift to Labour, the second biggest news item is Tom Watson basically admitting defeat in the election. Déjà vu. Irony Be My Shield posted:It doesn't seem like that big a news story tbh, especially compared to Hunt being completely AWOL during the NHS hack. At the moment, but I'll be damned if he doesn't try to keep it in the news. At least until Hunt appears and offers some banal remark placing the blame on the service itself. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 16:54 on May 13, 2017 |
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jabby posted:On a day that should be a gift to Labour, the second biggest news item is Tom Watson basically admitting defeat in the election.
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jBrereton posted:I do not understand why the moronic collective of Tom Watson, Ken Livingstone and Tony B aren't out of the party yet tbh Would certainly be something, kicking the Deputy Leader out of the party
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jBrereton posted:I do not understand why the moronic collective of Tom Watson, Ken Livingstone and Tony B aren't out of the party yet tbh Tony Benn is dead
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Let's leave the whole politics thing out of the way for a sec, I have a really important question: do you have normal hot dogs here in the UK? All I've seen so far is these massive "posh dogs" and sausages. I guess what I want is "american style"?
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