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# ? May 13, 2017 09:14 |
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# ? May 13, 2017 09:16 |
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EggsAisle posted:what the gently caress is "fud" and why are backers so hung up on it? It's a sales strategy employed to ensure that existing customers don't jump ship to a competing product. It was heavily employed by IBM back in the day, when clones of their mainframes and workstations started to appear and, rather than trying to sell (or… gasp! improve) on their own product, IBM sales people would remind their customers that “oh, but that's such a small and untested company that it'll probably go out of business” or “sure, they're compatible now but will it actually keep up with developments?” and so on. By spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt about those competitors and the long-term reliability and viability of their products, IBM tried to make sure everyone stayed with them, even when there was little real reason to do so. It may not surprise you that the citizens have fundamentally misunderstood and continuously misuse the term to simply mean “saying scary things about a product.” The fundamental aspects are there: CIG can trivially be accused of not having any long-term viability as a company; it's easy to point to SC and demonstrate that it's not keeping up with development; and the amount of evidence to support the fear that it will never come out is staggering. However, there is no sales pitch; there's no competing product that you should go to instead because of all that; and it's all based on actual past performance, rather than some nebulous assumption about the future, so the whole point of FUD is quite simply missing. FUD isn't negativity — it's negativity with a purpose and preying on not just ignorance but on the unknowable, which essentially means that the only FUD-like claims we see surrounding this project is when SC is compared to, and is claimed to be poised to beat the snot out of, already released games that will die horribly whenever SC is released so therefore you should back SC rather than those silly losers.
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# ? May 13, 2017 09:41 |
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trucutru posted:Come Wait My Lord! lmao
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# ? May 13, 2017 09:43 |
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Tippis posted:It's a sales strategy employed to ensure that existing customers don't jump ship to a competing product. It was heavily employed by IBM back in the day, when clones of their mainframes and workstations started to appear and, rather than trying to sell (or… gasp! improve) on their own product, IBM sales people would remind their customers that “oh, but that's such a small and untested company that it'll probably go out of business” or “sure, they're compatible now but will it actually keep up with developments?” and so on. By spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt about those competitors and the long-term reliability and viability of their products, IBM tried to make sure everyone stayed with them, even when there was little real reason to do so. i just thought he tried to shoot bugs bunny
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# ? May 13, 2017 09:47 |
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So after having ignored this mess of a project for like 4- 5 months, how often did we have to reset the "days since CIG hosed up" counter to zero? Weekly? When will be the next big show or convention where Crobbers will show new "ingame"(LOL).avi videos and fake demos? Don't wanna miss the hilarity!
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# ? May 13, 2017 09:50 |
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I bet the $5 CCU tax is a way to try and re-categorize existing technical debt to a $5.5million asset, perhaps as collateral for a loan. And lol at any institution that would fall for it.
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# ? May 13, 2017 09:52 |
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Mr.PayDay posted:So after having ignored this mess of a project for like 4- 5 months, how often did we have to reset the "days since CIG hosed up" counter to zero? Weekly? The answer depends on who you're asking. If you'd ask a "citizen" it wouldn't need to be reset at all. Since Chris Roberts is a perfectionist and won't make mistakes.
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# ? May 13, 2017 09:54 |
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Meanwhile on ..... This guy is reasonable sounding, almost calming. And he's getting voted through the roof. I don't want them to wake up though. Who will carry the torch of mental disorders when they come around??? Not a Sperg on Reddit posted:Oh my sweet summer child. 3.0 is not going to silence the critics, 3.0 as it gets delayed and trimmed back is going to be gasoline on the flame. It will release and really not be that big of a deal, because the key features that were going to make it so impactful have been pruned and delayed.
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# ? May 13, 2017 10:18 |
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trucutru posted:Every 2-3 weeks a new schedule pushing everything back 2-3 weeks is uploaded, this is good for SC. I just pray none of those employees are regular bike riders
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# ? May 13, 2017 10:49 |
EggsAisle posted:what the gently caress is "fud" and why are backers so hung up on it? Facts U Dislike
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# ? May 13, 2017 10:53 |
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Reminder. This was "accidentally" put in a build of the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr-I8XIAj8I
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:09 |
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Reminder. CCP>CIG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEgUL_QrNtI
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:10 |
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What is CCU?
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:13 |
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Xaerael posted:Reminder. Thanks for that. To be honest not sure these kind of vids show that EVE is one of the most unforgiving, steepest learning curve, unmerciful, cuththroat games out there. But it is cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXKVnXFQuUA
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:20 |
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Sillybones posted:What is CCU? Coronary Care Unit
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:20 |
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Golli posted:I bet the $5 CCU tax is a way to try and re-categorize existing technical debt to a $5.5million asset, perhaps as collateral for a loan. They floated the idea of this before but backed away from it when even Citizens weren't stupid enough to believe that a simple database transaction cost $5. Link to old thread when we discussed it. I think it's a great idea, if Citizens are stupid enough to pay $5 each time they change from not owning concept artwork of one ship to not owning concept art of another one, you could argue they sort of deserve to be scammed like this.
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:21 |
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I don't understand CCU enough to comprehend how sad this is. Scruffpuff posted:It's a cross-chassis upgrade ticket that gives you the flexibility to swap out your poo poo Mustang* for a totally pimp Mustang* with racing stripes and an automated dildo with <USE> functionality and all you have to pay for is the difference in price. CCU is $5 you give CIG that lets you upgrade your ship, just to get the honor of paying them the difference in ship prices. Its incredible how intricate their site shop mechanics work, meanwhile actual game mechanics get added once in a blue moon and break horribly. https://twitter.com/Toshi_TNE/status/863118949235519488
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:25 |
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Golli posted:I bet the $5 CCU tax is a way to try and re-categorize existing technical debt to a $5.5million asset, perhaps as collateral for a loan. Subprime pledging. Hey Lehman Brothers did.
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:27 |
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Imagine if a game store made nerds pay $5 a time to trade Pokemon cards.
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:31 |
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Virtual Captain posted:CCU is $5 you give CIG that lets you upgrade your ship, just to get the honor of paying them the difference in ship prices. It's more accurate to say change your ship. The early digital freelancer, hornet, cutlass packages were all $110, the boxed game versions of the same packages $140. So anyone with a standard Cutlass, Freelancer or Hornet has been able to switch between them for free using CCU's priced at $0. Now each time they switch it costs them $5. It's yet another sign they are desperate for money, it looks like this ship sale next week is yet another military one they'll be hoping to make 2.5 million on or so. Are Citizens dumb enough to fall for it again? The answer every time has been yes. Moma even bought the last ship whatever the hell it was called and you'd assume with him posting here he'd be wise enough to know better. But super rare, limited edition, must buy, can't miss out.
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:36 |
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Virtual Captain posted:I don't understand CCU enough to comprehend how sad this is. My attempt at understanding: You pay $5 to be allowed to buy ship skins? Then you still need to actually go and buy the ship skins. And you lose your old skin when you switch?
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:36 |
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https://twitter.com/WilliamMesilane/status/863339873356337153
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:37 |
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Sillybones posted:My attempt at understanding: You pay $5 to be allowed to buy ship skins? Then you still need to actually go and buy the ship skins. And you lose your old skin when you switch? No ship skins are seperate, they don't work anyway. This is changing the ship you "own" to a different ship by a token thing you buy on their website. These ships are same price, so ccu token upgrade was free.
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:43 |
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https://twitter.com/banditloaf/status/863228179175092224 doesn't know wtf because nobody tells him anything anymore. But at least he knows the end is coming I think. https://twitter.com/banditloaf/status/863228537305653248
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:48 |
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EggsAisle posted:what the gently caress is "fud" and why are backers so hung up on it? gently caress U Derek As you may know, many of them are very keen to talk about his privates. I believe they wish to ineveitable consicate of piracy him. God speed Derek.
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:50 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNJKHiu2mcg
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# ? May 13, 2017 11:59 |
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AP posted:Moma even bought the last ship whatever the hell it was called and you'd assume with him posting here he'd be wise enough to know better. That is because MoMA is Toast, you silly goose. As a poxy paralegal there, he has a vested interest.
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# ? May 13, 2017 12:25 |
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MedicineHut posted:That is because MoMA is Toast, you silly goose. As a poxy paralegal there, he has a vested interest. I don't think anyone in the actual know have bought even one tiny $120 ship since like 2015
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# ? May 13, 2017 12:51 |
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I don't think anyone in the actual know have bought even one tiny $120 ship since like 2015 Poxy paralegals are not really in the know. Dont underestimate Toast / CIG ability to screw up. Also, his actual lists of ships is probably as clearcut as CIG´s tracker.
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# ? May 13, 2017 13:04 |
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https://twitter.com/GhandiSardiner/status/863365592698564612
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# ? May 13, 2017 13:11 |
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Imagine how fast you can go with those nipple jets!
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# ? May 13, 2017 13:24 |
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happyhippy posted:Imagine how fast you can go with those nipple jets! Zoom! Whoosh! Neeeaaauuuugghhhh! Jiggle!
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# ? May 13, 2017 13:34 |
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Honestly CIG not giving a gently caress about what ships people buy regardless of how it fucks up the game makes a lot of sense if you think of it as an excuse to make more money later in the name of balance.
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# ? May 13, 2017 14:08 |
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https://twitter.com/GhandiSardiner/status/863373588761587712 #worththewait #actress
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# ? May 13, 2017 14:27 |
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Thoatse posted:female model is in... I'm sure Sandi had nothing to do with the art direction wow shitizens are railing on that pic. chrobs is going to scream himself hoarse at some poor intern
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# ? May 13, 2017 14:38 |
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I am at Paradox Convention and both Paradox and Frontier are using Star Citizen as a joke.
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# ? May 13, 2017 14:43 |
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IncredibleIgloo posted:I am at Paradox Convention and both Paradox and Frontier are using Star Citizen as a joke. Please post pics or say what they are sayin
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# ? May 13, 2017 14:46 |
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What's wrong with having Susan Sarandon in the game ?
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# ? May 13, 2017 14:46 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 05:52 |
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Liu posted:I'm sure he'll get unbanned if he wants, reddit won't even ban literal facist hate speech so I doubt they'd ban someone for criticizing a scam game. If he lies and says he got banned because he pissed off SJWs I'm sure the reddit admins will be tripping over themselves to unban him. Yeah, it appears as if those rear end-clowns mass reported him and so he was auto-banned by a bot. I emailed him last night via Lockbin to let him know. I will post when I hear back. The curious case of OldSchoolCmdr
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# ? May 13, 2017 14:48 |