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Oct 22, 2003

Lizard Combatant posted:

Loud chat: The Melvins were very loud.

I saw them open for Tool. Black Crowes were louder than both by far.

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Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Dick Trauma posted:

What's funny is that no matter how loud the concerts were that I saw as a teenager the maximum volume now is probably much higher due to improvements in speaker technology, and the lust for POWERRRRRRRRR!

Nothing will ever top the Wall of Sound, though.
loving look at it:


I'm not a deadhead by any means, but this thing was goddamn legendary, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAD TWO OF THESE FUCKERS. They'd leapfrog, so while the Dead were doing a show in one town, half their crew was already in the next, building an exact copy of their PA rig from the ground up.


http://www.dozin.com/wallofsound/

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Nothing will ever top the Wall of Sound, though.
loving look at it:


I'm not a deadhead by any means, but this thing was goddamn legendary, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAD TWO OF THESE FUCKERS. They'd leapfrog, so while the Dead were doing a show in one town, half their crew was already in the next, building an exact copy of their PA rig from the ground up.


http://www.dozin.com/wallofsound/

I see your wall of sound and raise you a spaceship:



Jeff Lynne said that it was nearly impossible to hear while playing in it. There were risers that would lift the band members up through the floor and would get stuck about halfway up. They also had guide vocal backing tapes that only the band was supposed to hear, but the sound would get screwed up and the audience could hear them making them believe the band was lip-syncing.

It was Spinal Tap before there was Spinal Tap.

And they had two of these fuckers, too. It took thirteen 18-wheelers to move it from city to city.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Nothing will ever top the Wall of Sound, though.
loving look at it:


I'm not a deadhead by any means, but this thing was goddamn legendary, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAD TWO OF THESE FUCKERS. They'd leapfrog, so while the Dead were doing a show in one town, half their crew was already in the next, building an exact copy of their PA rig from the ground up.


http://www.dozin.com/wallofsound/

Shame that Owsley will be remembered for his acid shenanigans, his sound work with the Dead was amazing.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


JnnyThndrs posted:

Shame that Owsley will be remembered for his acid shenanigans, his sound work with the Dead was amazing.

Read some writeup about the Wall of Sound a while back (can't remember where) and it said that Owsley was basically the guy who figured out how to make on-stage monitoring really work. Impressive stuff.

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Nothing will ever top the Wall of Sound, though.
loving look at it:


I'm not a deadhead by any means, but this thing was goddamn legendary, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAD TWO OF THESE FUCKERS. They'd leapfrog, so while the Dead were doing a show in one town, half their crew was already in the next, building an exact copy of their PA rig from the ground up.


http://www.dozin.com/wallofsound/

And all this to play some noodle-y, laid-back feelgood folk-rock jams. Not criticizing! 'American Beauty' is a desert island disc for me.

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

More loud chat: I've been to tons metal shows that by nature should be loud from Anathema to Mayhem and Mortician to Type O and still, the most uncomfortably loud show I've seen was QotSA. Runner-up would be Enslaved.

The entire QotSA set was slightly uptempo and cranked to 11. Might just be a Josh Homme thing if TCV is the same way.

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Loudest band I ever saw was Earth in a tiny pissy basement venue, which was fuckin weird considering this was well into their Bees Made Honey melodic chilldrone phase

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
Manowar has the actual verified record of loudest shows, So they win.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
I saw D'espairsray on their final tour through the USA years ago and within a minute or two of them starting, my hearing was absolutely hosed and it ruined the show for me. I'd never needed earplugs before at a live show, and I've always worn them since.

I don't even remember it being ear-destroyingly loud. I dunno, maybe it was something about the mix.

joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar
About the Jay Leno steam powered car from a few pages back - I feel dumb but I watched the whole thing and I couldn't tell what was generating the heat to turn the water into steam. Is it just gasoline that makes that fire or what?

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


HAT FETISH posted:

Loudest band I ever saw was Earth in a tiny pissy basement venue, which was fuckin weird considering this was well into their Bees Made Honey melodic chilldrone phase

God drat would I kill to see Earth play songs off Bees Made Honey

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

joedevola posted:

About the Jay Leno steam powered car from a few pages back - I feel dumb but I watched the whole thing and I couldn't tell what was generating the heat to turn the water into steam. Is it just gasoline that makes that fire or what?

Wikipedia says “it could burn a variety of liquid fuels with a minimum of modification”.

I don’t know what Leno uses.

e: He uses gasoline.

Platystemon has a new favorite as of 13:26 on May 12, 2017

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

joedevola posted:

About the Jay Leno steam powered car from a few pages back - I feel dumb but I watched the whole thing and I couldn't tell what was generating the heat to turn the water into steam. Is it just gasoline that makes that fire or what?

Designed for kerosene/diesel, but worked with pretty much anything liquid that burns, much like jet engines.

efb, that's what I get for leaving a tab open for ten minutes. So Leno has three cars to tool around in after the apocalypse/the oil runs out (which are basically synonymous to us) -- the two Dobles and the '63 Chrysler.

Fun fact: jet fuel is basically diesel fuel refined to higher standards. The US military uses one fuel for everything, from jets to trucks, really simplifying logistics. The Navy has a slightly different formulation than the Army, both of which are slightly different from civilian Jet A, but the engines will run on any of 'em, and even on regular diesel in a pinch (though they'll wear out quicker in the latter case). To get back on topic, when was the last gasoline vehicle retired from the US military? Whenever the HMMWV replaced the Jeep/CUCV?

Chillbro Baggins has a new favorite as of 13:47 on May 12, 2017

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Delivery McGee posted:

Designed for kerosene/diesel, but worked with pretty much anything liquid that burns, much like jet engines.

Sounds like it would be remarkably easy to make that thing nuclear. I mean, not easy in a legal sense...

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Delivery McGee posted:

efb, that's what I get for leaving a tab open for ten minutes. So Leno has three cars to tool around in after the apocalypse/the oil runs out (which are basically synonymous to us) -- the two Dobles and the '63 Chrysler.

He has several more steam cars than that, though I don’t know they’re all flex‐fuel capable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Me8b0ed59s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKA4cdAzsco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf8miprLH60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKX1KgIkBwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnab5sG9PQs

And the aforementioned Dobles for completeness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACO-HXvrRz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUg_ukBwsyo

Platystemon has a new favorite as of 23:51 on May 13, 2017

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



https://twitter.com/tastefactory/status/863050864768020480

Kelp Me! posted:

God drat would I kill to see Earth play songs off Bees Made Honey
Engine of Ruin was fuckin wicked and I got to chat with Dylan for like a minute on the way out :kiddo:

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003





I love the idea of steam cars until I realize what happens when they crash. Movies show dumb explosions with gas cars, but compressed steam is no joke.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
Resurrecting the ZX Spectrum:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1835143999/zx-spectrum-next

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



I was all in...until the mention of the Raspberry Pi Zero. gently caress off.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Humphreys posted:

I was all in...until the mention of the Raspberry Pi Zero. gently caress off.

I have no horse in this race, since Commodore computers were my jam growing up (VIC20 for life!). But I gotta know, why is a RasPI as an expansion module a deal breaker? (I've never used one of those either)

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


flosofl posted:

I have no horse in this race, since Commodore computers were my jam growing up (VIC20 for life!). But I gotta know, why is a RasPI as an expansion module a deal breaker? (I've never used one of those either)

Their system is just a breakout* for the pi zero.

*I admit with some good engineering. But geez, you had it all WITHOUT the pi. Or you can do it all with the pi yourself.

cstine
Apr 15, 2004

What's in the box?!?

Humphreys posted:

Their system is just a breakout* for the pi zero.

*I admit with some good engineering. But geez, you had it all WITHOUT the pi. Or you can do it all with the pi yourself.

Huh? It's got a FPGA that's doing the job of the original bits and an option to add a pi zero should you want additional performance. You don't need a pi for this.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



cstine posted:

Huh? It's got a FPGA that's doing the job of the original bits and an option to add a pi zero should you want additional performance. You don't need a pi for this.

That was my read.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe
It doesn't even sound like the Pi mode is emulation, much less the FPGA only mode

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

cstine posted:

Huh? It's got a FPGA that's doing the job of the original bits and an option to add a pi zero should you want additional performance. You don't need a pi for this.

This. The FPGA is doing all the ZX stuff.

legooolas
Jul 30, 2004

shovelbum posted:

It doesn't even sound like the Pi mode is emulation, much less the FPGA only mode

The Pi is for mysterious "we don't seem sure what we'll do with this yet" acceleration purposes.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

Let's hope it fares better than the previous one:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/29/retro_computer_ltd_vega_plus_refunds/

I still think the C64 ports of those games were usually better, with better music too.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Laserjet 4P posted:

Let's hope it fares better than the previous one:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/29/retro_computer_ltd_vega_plus_refunds/

I still think the C64 ports of those games were usually better, with better music too.

they did bring back the C64 briefly, but it was basically just a modern PC inside a C64 case

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


cstine posted:

Huh? It's got a FPGA that's doing the job of the original bits and an option to add a pi zero should you want additional performance. You don't need a pi for this.

I am bad at reading. Sorry.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


My dad cleared out a couple of bookshelves today. Among the personal-value antiques (handwritten notes from grad-level comp-sci classes basically before comp-sci classes existed, almost-entirely-outdated electrical engineering manuals/handbooks from the 70's-80's) was this little gem:


here's one of the EE manuals I grabbed just to pad out my home bookshelf of hilariously outdated textbooks:

Squish
Nov 22, 2007

Unrelenting.
Lipstick Apathy

WebDog posted:

Aussie nostalgia overload here:

https://www.gamesmen.com.au/old-catalogues

Old catalogues from The Games Men. Games weren't cheap in Australia. Flipping through stuff like Myst cost $99 at release. Plus back in 1995 the multimedia boom with under the Microsoft Home banner and the glut of shovelware titles of glorified reference CD-Roms. And all of the adult titles casually tossed into the mix as well.

Oh wow. I have a few of these and around 3 years ago I scanned them in for a thread here.

I also contacted the gamesmen guys and showed them the scans. The guy I emailed said that they'd been wanting to do that for a while and that they still had mint copies somewhere at the store. It's so good to see that they've finally gotten around to it.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Kelp Me! posted:

My dad cleared out a couple of bookshelves today. Among the personal-value antiques (handwritten notes from grad-level comp-sci classes basically before comp-sci classes existed, almost-entirely-outdated electrical engineering manuals/handbooks from the 70's-80's) was this little gem:



Leave those on your front step and set up a camera trap. You may be the first person to get photographic proof of John Titor.

Squish
Nov 22, 2007

Unrelenting.
Lipstick Apathy

Powered Descent posted:

That's cooler than what I had. To move anything that was too big for floppies, I had to resort to a null modem, a serial cable, and a copy of Laplink that someone at school had given me.



I was able to use that same serial cable and null modem plug to play Doom against a friend on another PC. Now THAT was just transcendent -- we were both in the same game! When Warcraft II came out, a friend talked a bunch of us into investing in a "network adapter" and oh my god, EIGHT PEOPLE could all play at once in the same game! Suddenly the LAN party became a staple of my weekends.



I still have that old null modem kicking around my box of various plugs and adapters. I'm not sure when I last had a computer that even had a serial port, but hey, you never know when you'll be called upon to fix something ancient.

Your story is almost identical to mine from around the same era. Reading it is almost too strange.

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


Krispy Kareem posted:

Sounds like it would be remarkably easy to make that thing nuclear. I mean, not easy in a legal sense...

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
I still use those null modem adapters regularly on SCADA equipment.
RS232 is alive and kicking, though more and more in EIA232 form.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Now this is podracing!

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


That'd be so much fun before the radiation poisoning set in.

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

TotalLossBrain posted:

I still use those null modem adapters regularly on SCADA equipment.
RS232 is alive and kicking, though more and more in EIA232 form.

Yep. RS232 is still very common with scientific equipment as well. I don't do much with the actual installation or maintenance of it, but there's tons of stuff at my work that has it.

I also came across some 5.25" floppies at work the other day. I don't think there's any machine that can even read them here anymore.

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

RS232 is the de-facto standard for industrial equipment, and most networking gear above consumer level. It's basically everywhere once you look outside the desktop PC bubble.

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