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Begemot posted:They can eat, though. And they have taste receptors, 2B comments on how good the mackerel tasted as she dies. Yeah I know. But they aren't explicitly designed to consume food. Tasting stuff is just supposed to make them more human, because it's such an integral part of culture. And they will pass most food just fine. Mackerel oil is just particularly unhealthy for them. It's a stupid joke ending, designed to kill idiots who don't safe enough and don't even follow the warning and the ominous music. Incidentally, it is possible to catch and eat a mackerel before talking to Jackass about it. That happened to a friend, right after he sorted through his chips. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 21:50 on May 13, 2017 |
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I straight up bursting out laughing when this happened to me. Although I had the foresight to save multiple times before then. Especially as I had first gotten this after a particular series of quests.
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May 13, 2017 21:54
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The taste sensors are just for making out.cant cook creole bream posted:Incidentally, it is possible to catch and eat a mackerel before talking to Jackass about it. That happened to a friend, right after he sorted through his chips.
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May 13, 2017 21:58
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:I. Hear. A. Fish. I TASTE A FISH
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Congeal not the watchers!
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May 13, 2017 22:00
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That quest with opening communications again...was the first thing to kill me in the main game past the tutorial. My first brush with the death system. ...Thankfully I didn't have much of value and I was careful next time.
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May 13, 2017 22:09
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Mackerel death was my first ending and I had to stop playing for a while because I couldn't stop laughing. Sure it sucks if you happen to catch one and eat it before Jackass has a chance to tell you to, but anyone complaining about it after getting it from her is an idiot. She first says it'll be a horrible effect, then even goes to say it might kill you and the music changes and you're literally right next to a save point. There's absolutely no excuse for complaining.
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May 13, 2017 22:24
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HenryEx posted:You wouldn't even believe how many people keep coming into the Games thread just to complain about losing 2 hours of progress due to the Mackerel killing them. I was caught off guard in that being an actual ending and nothing else. Of course I still saved before eating the drat fish so I lost nothing.
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May 13, 2017 22:29
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ChaseSP posted:But they have taste sensors at the same time. have you seen the designs of the combat androids i'm beginning to suspect the Council of Humanity's design team may have had other priorities in mind
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May 13, 2017 22:35
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cant cook creole bream posted:Mackerels are oily. Androids aren't really designed to eat. A tie-in short story (which I won't link because, you know, covers things that haven't come up yet) disagrees. Androids don't need to eat, but they can, and even get energy from it. Mackerels are just weird. Also, we don't have old world currency exchange rates for access points, but an interview did give one for YoRHa units. Each of them costs somewhere around a top-of-the-line fighter jet, a hundred million or so. And flight units cost ten times that. So, uh, 2B? Maybe stop breaking the billion dollar equipment just to look cool?
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Ze Pollack posted:have you seen the designs of the combat androids Look, when you make your combat robots strong enough and tough enough that adding additional armor accomplishes basically nothing, why not make them look pretty while you're at it. Alternatively, they're all designed and built by the androids themselves, who want to be as close to their human masters as possible. Still doesn't explain why their main firearms are loving STG-44's though.
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May 13, 2017 23:26
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The ideal experience of that is not having saved for several hours before eating it.
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May 13, 2017 23:41
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Congealing mackerel oil is the android's fugu, except it's 100% lethal instead of only lethal if your chef knicks any of the internal organs while filleting. There are reasons why it's rigorously regulated! Fun fact, there have been successful efforts in cultivating non-poisonous fugu. Shame none of the YoRHa crew is obsessed with fish breeding.
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If you catch a mackerel, the game even explicitly tells you it's fatal in the database enrry.
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Sage Grimm posted:Congealing mackerel oil is the android's fugu, except it's 100% lethal instead of only lethal if your chef knicks any of the internal organs while filleting. There are reasons why it's rigorously regulated! I'd ask "why" but I guess some people miss that "it takes significant amount of work/effort to make it ready to eat" is why it's even a thing in the first place.
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Sage Grimm posted:Congealing mackerel oil is the android's fugu, except it's 100% lethal instead of only lethal if your chef knicks any of the internal organs while filleting. There are reasons why it's rigorously regulated! They just care more about the killifish.
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Humans gave androids the ability to taste things while eating one oily fish loving kills them, Jackass isn't the only jackass involved here.
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It's funny that way.
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Okay, I have a question. Dark Id will probably answer this after. How does "Death" and "Endings" match up? Okay, obviously if you die and because of it the Machines destroy everything, that ending didn't "count" but in story, what should happen is 2B's consciousness goes back to the base, and she rebuilds her body, right? Does death by mackerel interfere with this giving 2B final death? In universe, is 2B going to go back to Jackass and get a reward, or will we go back in time and refuse; having never eaten the fish in the first place?
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Andyzero posted:Okay, I have a question. Dark Id will probably answer this after. There's no particular reason for this one. It's just a "gently caress you, you moron, you ate this poo poo you'd probably do something else similarly stupid"
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Sage Grimm posted:Congealing mackerel oil is the android's fugu, except it's 100% lethal instead of only lethal if your chef knicks any of the internal organs while filleting. There are reasons why it's rigorously regulated! I thought the poison was part of the experience. Like even a perfectly prepared fugu has enough poison in the flesh to make your mouth tingle and intoxicate you.
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The same thing can be said about removing the OS chip one since they are basically the same thing. You could say that 2B was removed from the server after 9S reports how she died since it's a really dumb way to die and not worth keeping around someone that incompetent, or it's a joke ending in a video game.
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Andyzero posted:Okay, I have a question. Dark Id will probably answer this after. Oh, eating the mackerel isn't actually a sidequest. There's no reward. Jackass is just offering you an opportunity to advance android science out of the goodness of your heart.
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Andyzero posted:Okay, I have a question. Dark Id will probably answer this after. Dying in-game will respawn 2B at the nearest Access Point and she'll have to recover her corpse to get any Chips left behind/EXP earned since last saving. Endings dump you straight to the title screen afterwards and effectively never happened. When we reload it'll be just before Jackass gave us that fish and she'll repeat that whole scene. We just won't eat the death fish like a dingus next time. Beyond that, it's a joke ending in a video game. Don't think about it too much until the next sequel is based off the most unlikely one. 
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Nier 3 will involve retrieving the commander from her disapproving space hibernation, no doubt
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:Nier 3 will involve retrieving the commander from her disapproving space hibernation, no doubt You think that's the most unlikely ending? There are what, 22 to go? Have some faith!
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I may or may not have just lazily edited this from a piece of Breath of the Wild fanart I did a couple of months ago.
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That's a "loving this poo poo" face all right.
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Beautiful. 
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I'm not 100% convinced the mackerel isn't the Watchers' doing. It seems like something their hair-brained R&D department would cook up: Hey boss, I got a good one this time. god dammit this better not be like the eyesocket doom flower idea Nah or the cannibal space babies before that Nope fine, what do you have for me Deadly fish!  ... We're still working out the kinks, it only works on androids right now ARGH
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absolutely wonderful warhammer651 posted:Look, when you make your combat robots strong enough and tough enough that adding additional armor accomplishes basically nothing, why not make them look pretty while you're at it. I feel the same, YoRHa are basically the I can mentally write off the vintage rifles as being magical sci-fi with vintage aesthetic, but I'm having trouble with the vintage car husks and a lot of the props in the resistance base. It's very anachronistic. edit: Looked through Junkyard of first game and couldn't find much. silentbrains fucked around with this message at 08:33 on May 14, 2017 |
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Morbi posted:I may or may not have just lazily edited this from a piece of Breath of the Wild fanart I did a couple of months ago. Conflicting feelings coming from this...
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chiasaur11 posted:Also, we don't have old world currency exchange rates for access points, but an interview did give one for YoRHa units. Each of them costs somewhere around a top-of-the-line fighter jet, a hundred million or so.
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Forgall posted:Yet somehow there are spare bodies in each terminal... Presumably, that's purely the cost of materials, since they can apparently be 3-D printed without issue.
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It's not spare bodies apparently but the components to make a new body in each so any unit could use them rather than just 2B or 9S. Either way, if they're recycling intact parts when they're making the new body each time, it'll keep cost down
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Jackass is just great. She gets better every time she pulls something like this. Also maybe Mackerels are so tasty to androids that once they have one, they can't stop eating them even though they die every time and it just isn't cost-effective to keep rebuilding them. And then other androids get curious and try one and everyone dies. Lots of androids do the mackerel challenge on android youtube. Also I love that the fast travel points are disguised as vending machines. Venda(n)Droid or something I guess
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May 14, 2017 10:45
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I never got around to getting that fish. Sort of relieved about that at the moment.
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May 14, 2017 11:57
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I like to imagine that the checkpoints on the surface are all connected by pneumatic tubes, like at the bank.
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Jackass is surprisingly bored and curious for someone who just saw a giant earthquake pull the city out from under her.
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I've been re-reading the Drakengard LP, and the fight with the 3 Engels is pretty similar to the Cyclops fight: A trio of hulking giants with scaffolding on them show up, and you need to fly around to destroy them.
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