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Angry Salami posted:If I'd been doing it, I'd have de-emphasize her powers and just made her the expert on anthropology and culture. There's hints of it here and there, but they never really made her an expert in the same way as Data or Geordi are the engineering experts on the ship. Yeah. Every other week they have a briefing on the new culture by Data; Troi doing it as their cultural expert would've been great use of character.
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Data was used in stupid ways too. One minute he's explaining the complexities of some society. The next he's asking the captain what love is.
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Rick Berman now openly admits that they never figured out how to write for Troi. Which makes sense, because honestly I can't think of an effective way to do it properly. My favorite episode of hers is the one where she gets altered to look like a Romulan. I've never heard anyone ask Sirtis about the fact that her character gets raped mentally like 10-15 times over the course of the series (plus Nemesis), and what her thoughts about that were.
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FlamingLiberal posted:My favorite episode of hers is the one where she gets altered to look like a Romulan. Also the sort of situation where her abilities would be really useful.
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Troi would have been perfect for surfacing things from the lower decks; like OK fine Data we could park up near that nebula, roll down the windows and take a good whiff, but the night crews haven't been wiping the lenses properly on their Future Smell-O-Scopes before shift handover, so the department heads are about ready to have mass punch-ups if the revised sensor-access schedules for the next few weeks aren't agreed and signed off and so, frankly, everyone's grumpy and just wants to go to Risa for a few weeks instead of poking around in space garbage
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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Cojawfee posted:Data was used in stupid ways too. One minute he's explaining the complexities of some society. The next he's asking the captain what love is. I heard it gets worse in later seasons. Is that true? 
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vermin posted:I heard it gets worse in later seasons. Is that true? Not so much in later seasons but he gradually becomes a drooling moron over the course of the movies.
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I think it would have been better if Troi didn't develop any abilities as a result of her being a half breed. Would have set up for a nice conflict with other Betazoids, who could have seen her as being inferior. But alas I doubt TNG would have ever run with something like that.
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I'm watching Pathfinder (Voyager) and I know it would totally not have that Star Trek feel, but I would love a Star Trek series where the captain wasn't the main character and the focus was more on good-hearted but less heroic characters. This might explain why my favorite DS9 episodes were generally about O'Brien or the non-military residents of DS9. Barclay is seriously the best, and his portrayal is simply amazing  E: also this episode has a good use of Troi!
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Hmm...I must've missed the episode with "The Neptunian".  Also all the aliens have phasers. Muh canon!
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Mister Kingdom posted:Patrick Stewart was a Romulan? 
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Playmates made toys of EVERYTHING!
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I just watched The Battle (the one where the Ferengi make Picard relive blowing up one of their ships) and it's the first actually good episode so far. Absolutely, it stands out from that horrible early run due to having such a strong character focus(even if the character development doesn't really tie-in with what is established about Picard later?) and some creative directing choices. It's the first glimmers of potential as to how good the show might be. Hide & Q on the other hand is set out like it should be an important character episode for Riker, except they hadn't managed to establish what his character actually was at that point, so the dilemma about whether he will abandon his humanity feels completely inconsequential. It could be about Captain Anyguy and the outcome would be the same. Also that episode had one of the most obviously stagebound "outdoor" sets ever seen on the show, which looks even worse on Blu-Ray. I think I first saw that episode in the early nineties, and even then thinking it looked shabbier than something from TOS.
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Mister Kingdom posted:Patrick Stewart was a Romulan? 
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Watched The Big Goodbye (holodeck with detective Dixon Hill) and it was easily the best episode so far. The set and costume design were spot on and the actors were obviously having a good time. I was also genuinely touched and disturbed by the noir-y part at the end where one of the holograms is made self-aware by what happens and he asks Picard "when you leave, will I still be here? Will my wife and kids still be waiting for me?"Maelstache posted:Absolutely, it stands out from that horrible early run due to having such a strong character focus(even if the character development doesn't really tie-in with what is established about Picard later?) and some creative directing choices. It's the first glimmers of potential as to how good the show might be. Yeah the alien soundstageness was particularly noticeable.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I was also genuinely touched and disturbed by the noir-y part at the end where one of the holograms is made self-aware by what happens and he asks Picard "when you leave, will I still be here? Will my wife and kids still be waiting for me?" "Computer, delete the wife and kids." Problem solved, Janeway style.
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How come Data has rights as an AI but the holograms don't.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:How come Data has rights as an AI but the holograms don't. They touch on this later in the series.
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Though the answer is basically "Uh... computer jail? We'll figure it out later."
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Orv posted:Though the answer is basically "Uh... computer jail? We'll figure it out later." God I hate that that episode was so good and then the actual resolution and followup episode were so bad.
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I like both episodes because the guest actor is really enjoyable to watch, but yeah, it's a real bummer.
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That Just watched ENT's "Azadi Prime" and "Damage," and I am suddenly reminded of so many episodes of VOY that pissed away so much plot and tension by being so adverse to continuity. I'm genuinely enjoying ENT at this point, even if it isn't ever as good as TNG or DS9 at its best.
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The AI discussion reminds me how weird it would be to be living in a reality where computers spontaneously generate sapient AI. It would be annoying as poo poo. "Sorry, Railing Kill. I can't fix your work PADD. Looks like that copy of Discord you just downloaded became self aware. It also created two children programs, both housed in your boot files. It would be triple murder to reformat the hard drive now." "gently caress. That's like the fifth PADD I've gone through this year. My editor is going to be pissed."
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"Actually the AI just rewrote your entire article and posted it for you. It's receiving a Nobel and you're fired."
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Has there been any info on what discovery uniforms will look like? I'm curious if they'll be similar to TOS or ENT.
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Kingtheninja posted:Has there been any info on what discovery uniforms will look like? I'm curious if they'll be similar to TOS or ENT. They'll look like neither because ST:D is gonna die before it's born.
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mycomancy posted:They'll look like neither because ST:D is gonna die before it's born. I'm willing to bet we're gonna get a trailer out of the CBS upfront later this week.
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Another two down, more opinions: The Search For Spock - "I'm not sure why they filmed most of this. It may have been a mistake?" The Voyage Home - "Second best Star Trek film (The Motion Picture is still the best)" on to The Final Frontier tomorrow, and I'm honestly curious what he'll think of it extra tidbit: "Wait, I went back to check and Chekov wasn't even in Space Seed"
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Watching Chain of Command. Captain Jellico's pretty great, and the scene where he and Riker scream at each is awesome.
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Kingtheninja posted:Has there been any info on what discovery uniforms will look like? I'm curious if they'll be similar to TOS or ENT. Might be cool to see modern versions of the uniforms from The Cage or something similar to whatever they wore on the Kelvin.
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Well I dug up something from January, near the bottom shows a close up of what looks like the uniform: http://trekmovie.com/2017/01/31/new-star-trek-discovery-promo-video-reveals-sets-uniforms-ships/
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mossyfisk posted:Another two down, more opinions: It really is an unspeakably ugly movie, and I don't just mean Nimoy's direction.
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Kingtheninja posted:Well I dug up something from January, near the bottom shows a close up of what looks like the uniform: Looks like they rounded out some of the sharper edges of the Discovery but overall the design is the same. It looks like a D-7 Klingon battlecruiser with a smaller saucer and Federation warp nacelles attached. The uniforms look ok though.
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Delsaber posted:Might be cool to see modern versions of the uniforms from The Cage or something similar to whatever they wore on the Kelvin.  macnbc posted:I'm willing to bet we're gonna get a trailer out of the CBS upfront later this week. 
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Timby posted:It really is an unspeakably ugly movie, and I don't just mean Nimoy's direction. It's the most 80s of the TOS movies, and that includes the one literally set in 1986.
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