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Not saying it's not, but that looks way more like a MiG-21. You can even see the pitot sticking out of the nose.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Not saying it's not, but that looks way more like a MiG-21. You can even see the pitot sticking out of the nose.
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May 14, 2017 21:00
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Now way in gently caress it landed on there unless it's a magic VTOL viggen/Mig21
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May 14, 2017 21:00
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https://www.google.fi/maps/@60.156179,24.9209476,62m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=fi
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May 14, 2017 21:07
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drat it. That would saved me some embarrassment. I'd convinced myself the pitot was the canard and that the tail looked more right than it really did. I still maintain it landed there though
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May 14, 2017 21:11
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ought ten posted:drat it. That would saved me some embarrassment. I'd convinced myself the pitot was the canard and that the tail looked more right than it really did. 1) Hire the God of Pilots 2) Wait for category-5 tornado winds at that building 3)
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May 14, 2017 21:13
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https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g189934-d2486408-r333263656-Verkkokauppa_com_Jatkasaari-Helsinki_Uusimaa.html
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May 14, 2017 21:13
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The only way it landed there is if an mi-26 dropped it.
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TTerrible posted:The only way it landed there is if an mi-26 dropped it. http://i.imgur.com/AEXfKWt.mp4
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May 14, 2017 21:36
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ought ten posted:Apologies for the terrible picture (I need to get a longer lens) but there's a Viggen on the roof of this Helsinki building! Pretty sure it's a VIggen at least. I'm assuming it landed there, considering they were designed to operate off improvised runways. 
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May 14, 2017 22:25
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Why does the Russian military bother doing poo poo like this?
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May 14, 2017 22:39
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Arglebargle III posted:Why does the Russian military bother doing poo poo like this? They believed tom Clancy that they could hide from radar by pretending to be trucks
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May 14, 2017 23:02
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When you're like 6 feet off the pavement I wouldn't be surprised if that did work in some cases.
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May 14, 2017 23:20
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Arglebargle III posted:Why does the Russian military bother doing poo poo like this? For funsies? At least they aren't landing and asking for directions.
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May 14, 2017 23:27
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Looks like he's trying to run his nose wheel along the guardrail. Pilot showing off?
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May 14, 2017 23:30
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jaegerx posted:They believed tom Clancy that they could hide from radar by pretending to be trucks It wasn't trucks, it was bullet trains in Japan, which is a bit more feasible.
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Party Plane Jones posted:It wasn't trucks, it was bullet trains in Japan, which is a bit more feasible. Isn't a bullet train significantly larger than a helicopter? Man I have questions that I'm 99% sure are opsec about how that stuff looks on radar.
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May 15, 2017 00:07
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Play that SAM simulator game and find out for yourself
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May 15, 2017 00:13
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Pretty sure the radiation that jstars puts out has already fried the brains of anyone that could talk about it.
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Flikken posted:Isn't a bullet train significantly larger than a helicopter? Man I have questions that I'm 99% sure are opsec about how that stuff looks on radar. The radar return for the helicopters kept popping up and then getting dismissed as ground clutter from bullet trains due to the speed and low return, if I remember right. It wasn't a JSTARs plane, just a souped up E-767.
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Flikken posted:Isn't a bullet train significantly larger than a helicopter? Man I have questions that I'm 99% sure are opsec about how that stuff looks on radar. It is not at all an OPSEC issue to say that helicopter rotor movement looks pretty particular to radars. If you have further questions, please talk to my buddy, mr. 
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Collateral Damage posted:It's a Mig-21, and the building is a shopping center. You can take an elevator to the roof and see it up close. Neat. Got any other Helsinki advice?
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May 15, 2017 05:02
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Arglebargle III posted:Why does the Russian military bother doing poo poo like this? They were loving around. There was an article in some russian English-language newspaper about some this stuff a while back; Russian air force officers saying they're doing "important training" but then it turned out they were just amusing themselves.
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May 15, 2017 05:04
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ought ten posted:Neat. Got any other Helsinki advice? If you're looking for a good pub I can recommend St Urho's. https://goo.gl/maps/CZWGpXDFckA2
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Actually from 2015 I guess, but popped up on imgur today (with the wrong info in the title) and worth a post on clarity alone MILAN vs T-55 in Libya http://i.imgur.com/vPA5vN7.gifv EDIT: Didn't realize gifs just directly play like that, gonna leave it but if its loving with anyone's browser let me know. Mazz fucked around with this message at 23:35 on May 15, 2017 |
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I get the best briefings. Really just the best briefings full of really sensitive information. Want to hear some? Da, Mr President Murgos fucked around with this message at 23:56 on May 15, 2017 |
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Murgos posted:I get the best briefings. Really just the best briefings full of really sensitive information. Want to hear some? poo poo is so loving crazy these days I don't even know what to think.
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May 15, 2017 23:32
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It's like the SNL skits are more predicting than parodying.
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This is some pro word parsingquote:“The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” said H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, who participated in the meeting. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”
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May 16, 2017 00:15
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Assad Syrian troops have advanced to within 15 miles of US/Brit special forces in Syria http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/15/syrian-troops-advancing-towards-us-british-special-forces/
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May 16, 2017 00:27
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priznat posted:poo poo is so loving crazy these days I don't even know what to think. With the media hysteria meter permanently dialed up to 11 it's hard to say where it is on the scale from "utterly business as usual" to "totally nuts". Presidents have the authority to disclose anything they want in the national security interest, and they have done so on a daily basis for generations. For that matter, so do a large fraction of the four-digit number of original classification authorities, though only involving the specific classified information under their purviews. This kind of disclosure would only be out of the ordinary if it involved operational sensitivities, which we're not likely to know for sure any time in the next half-century.
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May 16, 2017 00:54
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Mazz posted:Actually from 2015 I guess, but popped up on imgur today (with the wrong info in the title) and worth a post on clarity alone Double posting, but this is a good lesson for drone enthusiasts. This weapon is pretty literally a single-use suicide drone, and while fact it works very well, it shows that the concept is really not a new one. Where drones make the real difference is the ISR that spots the tank in the first place.
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East end of Reno Stead's ramp was pretty Cold War this afternoon:   I'm especially interested as to how a Ukrainian L-39 got here.
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Captain von Trapp posted:With the media hysteria meter permanently dialed up to 11 it's hard to say where it is on the scale from "utterly business as usual" to "totally nuts". Presidents have the authority to disclose anything they want in the national security interest, and they have done so on a daily basis for generations. For that matter, so do a large fraction of the four-digit number of original classification authorities, though only involving the specific classified information under their purviews. This kind of disclosure would only be out of the ordinary if it involved operational sensitivities, which we're not likely to know for sure any time in the next half-century. True, but this isn't a benefit-of-the-doubt kinda person in a benefit-of-the-doubt kinda situation during a benefit-of-the-doubt kinda administration. e. vvv both sides....are bad? 
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Guest2553 posted:True, but this isn't a benefit-of-the-doubt kinda person in a benefit-of-the-doubt kinda situation during a benefit-of-the-doubt kinda administration. We are in an era of such extreme polarization that no one is ever going to receive the benefit of the doubt ever again.
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The Washington Post article I read was pretty explicit that the source was a forgeign shared intel and not to be distributed.
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priznat posted:poo poo is so loving crazy these days I don't even know what to think. I always figured Trump would *accidentally* let something important slip, kinda like Lyndon Johnson and the SR-71 Him having *scheduled loving meetings with America's long term rival* to do so words, I do not have them
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Captain von Trapp posted:With the media hysteria meter permanently dialed up to 11 it's hard to say where it is on the scale from "utterly business as usual" to "totally nuts". Presidents have the authority to disclose anything they want in the national security interest, and they have done so on a daily basis for generations. For that matter, so do a large fraction of the four-digit number of original classification authorities, though only involving the specific classified information under their purviews. This kind of disclosure would only be out of the ordinary if it involved operational sensitivities, which we're not likely to know for sure any time in the next half-century. They may have the authority to disclose whatever they want, but foreign intel agencies also have the authority to tell us to eat a bag of dicks the next time we want to work with them.
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I'm hearing rumours it was something to do with the UK so the likelihood of us telling the US to eat a bag of dicks is vanishingly small. More crumbs from the table master. 
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