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Lobster God posted:Tell me more Do you have a car? E;1095 First Crusade invents the club 18-30 visit the Med. and disrespect it's locals holiday package. EmptyVessel fucked around with this message at 23:01 on May 14, 2017 |
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Also you can't be an "anti-[x]" quisling, quisling collaborated with the nazis, not against something, you historically deficient idiot.
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May 14, 2017 22:59
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TheRat posted:How about you go gently caress yourself you thundercunt? "haha we should disband NATO and leave Eastern Europe open to be sucked into Russia's sphere of influence"
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May 14, 2017 23:01
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:"haha we should disband NATO and leave Eastern Europe open to be sucked into Russia's sphere of influence" Or we could have a defence pact lead by the EU which isn't a front for US interests.
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May 14, 2017 23:02
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OwlFancier posted:Also you can't be an "anti-[x]" quisling, quisling collaborated with the nazis, not against something, you historically deficient idiot. They're collaborating with Putin.
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May 14, 2017 23:04
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So what's wrong with John McDonnell and why does no one mention him when discussing the next labour leader? Just damaged goods from being deputy to Corbyn?
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May 14, 2017 23:04
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:"haha we should disband NATO and leave Eastern Europe open to be sucked into Russia's sphere of influence" Yes
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May 14, 2017 23:04
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Or we could have a defence pact lead by the EU which isn't a front for US interests. We should be involved in a front for German interests instead!
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May 14, 2017 23:05
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:So what's wrong with John McDonnell and why does no one mention him when discussing the next labour leader? Just damaged goods from being deputy to Corbyn? Yeah him, Abbott and to a lesser extent Thornberry are all bound together. They'll all have to go back to the back benches after the election.
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May 14, 2017 23:05
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:"haha we should disband NATO and leave Eastern Europe open to be sucked into Russia's sphere of influence" Cos getting sucked into the US's sphere of influence is so much better.
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May 14, 2017 23:05
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Or we could have a defence pact lead by the EU which isn't a front for US interests. U.S. Interests are European interests. NATO has single handily saved Europe from Soviet domination, and now they are saving it from Russian Hegemony. A pan EU Army would be doomed to fail. Few of the members have the funds, or the martial spirit needed to defend themselves. It would be a disorganized, underfunded, and leaderless force that would capitulate to Russian power in under a year.
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May 14, 2017 23:05
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EmptyVessel posted:Cos getting sucked into the US's sphere of influence is so much better. Unequivocally better yes.
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May 14, 2017 23:07
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hakimashou posted:Unequivocally better yes. gently caress off (stage left pursued by Russian bear).
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May 14, 2017 23:09
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Evil_Urna posted:U.S. Interests are European interests. NATO has single handily saved Europe from Soviet domination, and now they are saving it from Russian Hegemony. A pan EU Army would be doomed to fail. Few of the members have the funds, or the martial spirit needed to defend themselves. It would be a disorganized, underfunded, and leaderless force that would capitulate to Russian power in under a year. I feel like the most appropriate response to this post is to state that you're a loving idiot.
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May 14, 2017 23:09
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Pissflaps posted:Yeah him, Abbott and to a lesser extent Thornberry are all bound together. They'll all have to go back to the back benches after the election. I hope he at least contests for it. He seems like the best candidate.
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May 14, 2017 23:09
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Evil_Urna posted:U.S. Interests are European interests. NATO has single handily saved Europe from Soviet domination, and now they are saving it from Russian Hegemony. A pan EU Army would be doomed to fail. Few of the members have the funds, or the martial spirit needed to defend themselves. It would be a disorganized, underfunded, and leaderless force that would capitulate to Russian power in under a year. Holy poo poo an actual "US is the defender of the planet" person. Quickly someone get the ether and the comically oversized pin. Got to preserve it for future generations to look and laugh at.
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May 14, 2017 23:12
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You can release the best policy manifesto in the world, but if normal people know deep down that you're one of those crazed anti-americans that is happy to sidle up to Iran or be a quisling for Russia then you aren't going to win the election. Once people get a whiff of that stink, there's nothing you can say to change their minds. You can't talk someone into eating a piece of rotten meat. It was a tragically foolish mistake to pick corbyn as the leader of the labour party.
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May 14, 2017 23:21
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Because there's a lot to love about America with the orange pissbaby in charge of it isn't there. God I would sure love to be friends with that idiot.
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May 14, 2017 23:28
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OwlFancier posted:Because there's a lot to love about America with the orange pissbaby in charge of it isn't there. The worst fears of the drumpfenreich, like betraying NATO, turned out to be him just running his mouth during the election thank God.
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May 14, 2017 23:30
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OwlFancier posted:Because there's a lot to love about America with the orange pissbaby in charge of it isn't there. Also of note is that Trump won while calling America shithouse and decrying the wastefulness of American military adventurism (while also saying it needed to spend more on defence).
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May 14, 2017 23:31
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hakimashou posted:The worst fears of the drumpfenreich, like betraying NATO, turned out to be him just running his mouth during the election thank God. lol that that's the thing you were most worried about.
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May 14, 2017 23:32
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OwlFancier posted:lol that that's the thing you were most worried about. Yeah we've survived plenty of lovely republican presidents, but a quisling president would have been something new and terrifying. If the democratic party somehow nominated someone so debased, it's just about the only circumstance I could ever see myself voting for a republican or sitting the election out. If I were british I'd be unable to bring myself to vote for labour under someone like corbyn after seeing his true colors.
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May 14, 2017 23:33
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Decrying NATO is endorsing Trumpism, not fighting it.
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May 14, 2017 23:35
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Yes, just imagine if the US president was scared of having secret piss tapes made public by a long time rival on the world stage. Why I can't imagine a term that might describe the sort of behaviour that one might see from such a president.
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May 14, 2017 23:36
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Pissflaps posted:Decrying NATO is endorsing Trumpism, not fighting it. A professed dislike of interventionism is not the problem with "trumpism" and is actually a good thing, if it were only backed up by action.
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May 14, 2017 23:39
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Pissflaps and hakimashou are both super cunts but i'm still gonna have to side with them. While Russia exists and is being Russian, NATO has a purpose. Anyone who thinks the world would be safe without America and/or Nato, while still allowing Russia to exist, is a dickhead. Like if you remove the US and Russia at the same time, then you might have a point. But both countries continue to exist. Russia is ascendant and expansionist. We need NATO.
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May 14, 2017 23:39
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People who think NATO is bad: Trump, Putin, Corbyn. Hmm.
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May 14, 2017 23:43
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Definitely the only 3.
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May 14, 2017 23:44
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Louise Mensch is fighting her solicitor on twitter. https://twitter.com/grabmybutstick/status/863598777680015360
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May 14, 2017 23:47
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OwlFancier posted:Holy poo poo an actual "US is the defender of the planet" person. Without the American military in Europe to calm things down, or her nuclear umbrella you would be staring down your fourth major war on the on the continent. Just because you want to winge at America and vote Labor does not make it any different. I would vote Tory everyday of the week if the choice for Labor would be a man like Corbyn who, besides being a communist, wants nothing more then the brick by brick destruction of everything the UK has built here and in Israel.
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May 14, 2017 23:52
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Evil_Urna posted:Without the American military in Europe to calm things down, or her nuclear umbrella you would be staring down your fourth major war on the on the continent. Just because you want to winge at America and vote Labor does not make it any different. I would vote Tory everyday of the week if the choice for Labor would be a man like Corbyn who, besides being a communist, wants nothing more then the brick by brick destruction of everything the UK has built here and in Israel. Don't stop I nearly have bingo!
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May 14, 2017 23:53
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Evil_Urna posted:Without the American military in Europe to calm things down, or her nuclear umbrella you would be staring down your fourth major war on the on the continent. Just because you want to winge at America and vote Labor does not make it any different. I would vote Tory everyday of the week if the choice for Labor would be a man like Corbyn who, besides being a communist, wants nothing more then the brick by brick destruction of everything the UK has built here and in Israel. I want to take this post, frame it and use it as a hazard symbol.
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May 14, 2017 23:54
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Also what was the third major war in Europe unless we're starting with Napoleon?
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May 14, 2017 23:57
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OwlFancier posted:Also what was the third major war in Europe unless we're starting with Napoleon? Roman conquest, duh
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Regarde Aduck posted:Pissflaps and hakimashou are both super cunts but i'm still gonna have to side with them. While Russia exists and is being Russian, NATO has a purpose. Anyone who thinks the world would be safe without America and/or Nato, while still allowing Russia to exist, is a dickhead. Sure would suck if the world's dominant political and cultural force were a country of overly religious bigots led by a corrupt billionaire, with a history of undermining and overthrowing democratically elected governments abroad for its own financial gain, a shocking human rights record and policy of murdering its political opponents in other countries.
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TheRat posted:Louise Mensch is fighting her solicitor on twitter. Although it looks like the lawyer is being crazy unprofessional with his client here. Hoops fucked around with this message at 00:03 on May 15, 2017 |
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May 15, 2017 00:00
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Hoops posted:I don't understand what the tweets are talking about, can someone break it down? Read this tweet-chain to see how rambling mad she is https://twitter.com/gabrielmalor/status/863602321443495936
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May 15, 2017 00:01
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Hoops posted:I don't understand what the tweets are talking about, can someone break it down? Looks like she's going public with a story that there's some sort of warrant out for Trump, her solicitor is advising her to not do so until the story is verified, and she's saying that she knows best.
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May 15, 2017 00:01
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OwlFancier posted:Don't stop I nearly have bingo! Woah there man, you are coming dangerously close to some anti antisemitism here. I dont think that is at all necessary. I agree I kinda opened the door, but you should leave that kind of bigotry off this thread. On the subject of NATO in Europe, who would lead this force? The UK and France are the only states with the experience and the Navy to put up any kind of defence. And thanks to Corbyn the UK is leaving the EU. So that leaves France, and they are teetering on the edge of a civil war there by some accounts. So who does that leave? Germany? They have not really fought any war since WWII, the Italians have the martial prowess of dairy cows and the nords would really not get involved too much. So who does that leave? Wouldn't it just be cheaper and easier to just pay our NATO dues and let America protect us as we have the last sixty years? OwlFancier posted:Also what was the third major war in Europe unless we're starting with Napoleon? Without America and her nuclear weapons WWIII would have been Russia taking over all of Europe. WWVI would be the splintering of Europe after the fall of Communism.
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Criticism of Israeli state policy = antisemitism is the center square woooooooooo
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