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Namtab posted:Given the state of race relations in America you probably could have tried harder wrt that. When was the last time an American professional athlete was called the N word from the stands? Or had bananas thrown at him? Now when was the last time in Europe? At least in America we talk about our issues with racism. You all try and hide it and keep it quiet, but it is now, and has always been far worse there.
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Americans are super weird about what they spend there tax money on http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/joy-as-library-stays-open-1-8536299 Every time they start threatening to shut libraries in the Lancashire County Council and Blackpool Borough Council there is a huge kickoff over it We won't get to the state of America anytime soon
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I think I'd be far more comfortable asking actual black people from both countries which cops they prefer being extrajudicially murdered by.
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May 15, 2017 02:55
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hakimashou posted:Didn't the last person of color to rise very high in your country's politics get hounded out on a rail? Stuff like "...spear Chukka!" in your national newspapers? The current president insisted for years that he was born in Kenya lol "Spear Chukka" seems way too on the nose, I wouldn't be surprised but I'd need to see that headline to believe it was real
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May 15, 2017 02:55
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Evil_Urna posted:NATO is really the only reason why the Soviets were never able to advance further. Without the umbrella of protection that America provided to Europe, you would have lost everything that made you unique and great. NATO kept you safe from the communist hordes. NATO kept the world from descending into an atomic hellfire. lol
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Party Boat posted:The current president insisted for years that he was born in Kenya lol I'm 99% sure it was in the UKMT years ago, the writers had tried to be clever and it was "so and so tries to spear Chuka" or something along those lines. Lemme see if I can't find it. It was back when Obama was still president and I remember being aghast at it. E: here's the closest I can find, maybe it was a screenshot of something besides a newspaper, it was a while ago http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...end-emails.html hakimashou fucked around with this message at 03:02 on May 15, 2017 |
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Evil_Urna posted:When was the last time an American professional athlete was called the N word from the stands? Or had bananas thrown at him? Now when was the last time in Europe? At least in America we talk about our issues with racism. You all try and hide it and keep it quiet, but it is now, and has always been far worse there. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/map-shows-europes-racist-countries-britain-isnt-one-134811816.html Lol Italy and Spain may be racist as poo poo but Britain is a more tolerant place than America
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May 15, 2017 02:57
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How many of the racists in Spain are British?
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May 15, 2017 03:04
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:I wish we all were obliterated in nuclear fire! Agreed Evil_Urna posted:Whats wrong with quoting someone who was objectively the greatest post war Prime Minister the UK had? This is really funny but also over playing your hand. Still good for some bites because Thatcher inspires that sort of kneejerk reaction among British people with a conscience but it's the use of objectively that's a dead giveaway. Because everyone knows that Maggie is only objectively best if the metric is "quantity of human suffering created while in power".
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Party Boat posted:The current president insisted for years that he was born in Kenya lol It was abuse he received from ukip supporters
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May 15, 2017 03:09
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forkboy84 posted:Agreed She made a lot of tough decisions that had to be made, and they paid off down the road for the UK. Then all that was accomplished was squandered by Labour. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/13/dont-abandon-thatchers-free-market-economics-tory-grandees-warn/ The Telegraph had a great write up on it the other day.
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Namtab posted:Given the state of race relations in America you probably could have tried harder wrt that. so this one time the United States occupied a strange and foreign land and sought to bring democracy through military government; in the face of gross human rights violations committed by American soldiers, growing anti-war (and anti-draft) sentiment at home, and a massive campaign of terrorism and armed insurgency enjoying broad local support, the government instead sought exit with honour and wrote-off the lives of its onetime harki supporters, who would of course be subject to terrible retribution whilst those who had clutched their pearls so hard about the draft riots found plentiful reasons to look away I find myself on the side of "well the Radicals should have shot more terrorists, really, then maybe it wouldn't have had another century of horrific ethnic supremacy", but it's worth reflecting upon what this really means in a contemporary sense who in Lisbon weeps for the incredible brutality of post-decolonisation violence? it's really easy to blame your local political opponents for having put one in such a sticky situation to begin with, of course, but the reality is one of preferring impassioned debate over principles to anything that would actually spare millions of lives
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Namtab posted:It was abuse he received from ukip supporters Ie, the most successful british political movement in a generation. Your whole country put it to a vote and you sided with UKIP. It's a damning indictment. E: The UK has a few legitimate points where it sits above the US. Healthcare, at least for the time being, is one. Women's issues to an extent; before long you'll be electing your second woman as prime minister. Race and bigotry however are not some of those points anymore. Maybe before Obama and the brexit, but no longer. hakimashou fucked around with this message at 03:18 on May 15, 2017 |
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Americans are super weird about what they spend there tax money on not really, US suburban municipal politics was at that stage two decades ago eventually the people enraged that libraries spend their money on line item X figure out that the only way they will stop the moral outrage of X is to sacrifice libraries in toto for themselves and their own children, and they reconcile themselves to that sacrifice and then it turns out that a protest largely by librarians against library administrators - literally card-carrying members of the intelligentsia both - has a very different power dynamic from kulturkampf at large
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May 15, 2017 03:19
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What's with all the dumbass tourists in here lately
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May 15, 2017 03:55
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baka kaba posted:What's with all the dumbass tourists in here lately I came for the high quality political discussion. UK politics are important. Not as important as they were in the early 20th century, but you all had the greatest Empire mankind had ever seen then.
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May 15, 2017 04:12
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hakimashou posted:Ie, the most successful british political movement in a generation. A country choosing to leave a political union because it wants to flood that country with hundreds of thousands of migrants basically destroying the working and lower middle class and usurp its sovereignty having control over its laws and courts is worse than a country that has real issues with its police force blowing away minorities in the middle of the street because of racial stereotyping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAJRcRZPfwQ remember that time Trump called Mexicans rapists? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6QEqoYgQxw
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May 15, 2017 04:30
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guy who posts about the scary "communist hordes" and praises thatcher also does "ironic" nazism in gbs, color me surprised
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R. Guyovich posted:guy who posts about the scary "communist hordes" and praises thatcher also does "ironic" nazism in gbs, color me surprised I am so owned, not my public post history.
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Hey, now when you guys spam your "gently caress off nazi" white noise memes you've got an actual nazi! hakimashou fucked around with this message at 05:17 on May 15, 2017 |
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May 15, 2017 05:07
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Evil_Urna posted:I am so owned, not my public post history. dont post here
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Evil_Urna posted:When was the last time an American professional athlete was called the N word from the stands? About 2 weeks ago.
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That Toyy councillor who posted this; Has apparently been suspended, pending investigation. Not to be confused with the Tory MP who told that Scottish kid to "gently caress off back to Scotland", as a "joke".
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ronya posted:the Trump Show is making people antsy Yeah that's what I was assuming - but you'd think with the sheer surreality of what's happening over there we'd get something more inspired than this 'hey fellas Jeremy Cobain of Labor is bad! Thatcher rules' crowd https://twitter.com/maldr0id/status/863838938477338625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw baka kaba fucked around with this message at 06:13 on May 15, 2017 |
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baka kaba posted:Yeah that's what I was assuming - but you'd think with the sheer surreality of what's happening over there we'd get something more inspired than this 'hey fellas Jeremy Cobain of Labor is bad! Thatcher rules' crowd I legit come here for UK pol chat. And I legit cannot see how anyone in the UK can take Corbyn seriously. The manifesto was more pie in the sky then most party manifestos and their hopes of getting elected basically hinges on getting 16 year olds the vote.
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Evil_Urna posted:I legit come here for UK pol chat. And I legit cannot see how anyone in the UK can take Corbyn seriously. The manifesto was more pie in the sky then most party manifestos and their hopes of getting elected basically hinges on getting 16 year olds the vote. What parts of it were "pie in the sky" and why, please?
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Evil_Urna posted:I legit come here for UK pol chat. And I legit cannot see how anyone in the UK can take Corbyn seriously. The manifesto was more pie in the sky then most party manifestos and their hopes of getting elected basically hinges on getting 16 year olds the vote. Yes, the problem is definitely Corbyn's proposed manifesto, full of policies that are actually popular with a majority of the British public. Probably best sticking to the ironic Nazism in GBS.
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Imo the problem is not the manifesto, which is good, or even socialism, but all the StW /Swp stuff, which is bad.
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Are we being brigaded by Americans telling us how wrong are politics are? Now I know how the Cubans/Ecuadorians/Vietnamese/etc. feel.
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They're a bit mad that Le Pen lost and taking it out on us.
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R. Guyovich posted:guy who posts about the scary "communist hordes" and praises thatcher also does "ironic" nazism in gbs, color me surprised you said it was really weird that a poster did this about you in the russia thread lmao
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pointsofdata posted:Imo the problem is not the manifesto, which is good, or even socialism, but all the StW /Swp stuff, which is bad. It's not good but as lovely as the SWP are they are still a total loving irrelevance and not worth losing a second of sleep over. The actual problem is that Labour MPs have spent 2 years convincing the public that Corbyn is unelectable, and have done a very good job at it.
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hakimashou posted:The US fought the bloodiest war in its history, the war in which more Americans died than in all the subsequent wars together, including the two big ones where we came to Europe's salvation, to end slavery. Rather glossing over the fact that around half of those killed in the US Civil War were fighting for the continued existence of slavery.
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Jose posted:you said it was really weird that a poster did this about you in the russia thread lmao they dug into posts from all the way back in january by doing a directed forums search, that was on the guy's first page
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hakimashou has had some truly spicy takes in the name of trolling but that civil war quote is spectacular
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forkboy84 posted:It's not good but as lovely as the SWP are they are still a total loving irrelevance and not worth losing a second of sleep over. Do you think hiring a communist to lead the election campaign will be able to undo this perception in time for the election?
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Pissflaps posted:Do you think hiring a communist to lead the election campaign will be able to undo this perception in time for the election? I think there was probably nobody on the planet who could have reversed the damage done in just 2 months between election being announced and polling day.
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Evil_Urna posted:Whats wrong with quoting someone who was objectively the greatest post war Prime Minister the UK had? "There is no such thing as society" Post your favorite thatcher quotes itt
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forkboy84 posted:I think there was probably nobody on the planet who could have reversed the damage done in just 2 months between election being announced and polling day. I'll be watching on with fascination to see the results of installing a Stalinist as head of the election campaign.
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