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Fallen Hamprince posted:if only the ussr had gotten on that surplus value game early it wouldnt have to stuff hundreds of thousands of people in gulags for no reason There's always reasons, like when the British moved hundreds of thousands of Kenyans into concentration camps
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:The Kronstadt sailors sure thought so. please try to stick to the basics with kropoopkin, i don't think the leftypol memes cover kronstadt so he's not going to know what you're talking about
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Hodgepodge posted:i, for one, am looking forward to the day when enlightened neo-barons patiently explain to their serfs that while democracy may sound like a good idea, it lead to the horrors of american slavery Someone in the UK DnD thread earlier today was posting about how the the US Constitution was a terrible thing because it allows slavery.
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hakimashou posted:Someone in the UK DnD thread earlier today was posting about how the the US Constitution was a terrible thing because it allows slavery. tbf the abolitionist movement in britain drew a lot of strength and pride from a legal tradition which stated that any man who set foot on british soil was free otoh god save the queen right?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:There's always reasons, like when the British moved hundreds of thousands of Kenyans into concentration camps "The USSR was only as bad as the British Empire" is not the selling point you seem to think it is. So the record shows your government of choice is every bit as cynical, opportunistic, expansionistic, and perfidious as a Western liberal state. Given the lower standard of living, and the much higher likelihood of being purged for expressing the wrong opinion, what's even the point of socialism once you've accepted that it's as amoral as any other system?
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:"The USSR was only as bad as the British Empire" is not the selling point you seem to think it is. So the record shows your government of choice is every bit as cynical, opportunistic, expansionistic, and perfidious as a Western liberal state. Given the lower standard of living, and the much higher likelihood of being purged for expressing the wrong opinion, what's even the point of socialism once you've accepted that it's as amoral as any other system? and that's why we should be grateful for the neo-barons. i mean tithing our virgin daughters to them kind of sucks, but it could be worse.
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The great thing about living in the USSR is although your country is the perpetrator of many of the same human rights abuses as a colonial state, you aren't morally obligated to protest against them because you'll be thrown in jail if you do.
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hakimashou posted:Someone in the UK DnD thread earlier today was posting about how the the US Constitution was a terrible thing because it allows slavery. i know you think that's a good thing but a lot of people have finally agreed that's bad
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Hodgepodge posted:and that's why we should be grateful for the neo-barons. i mean tithing our virgin daughters to them kind of sucks, but it could be worse. gently caress the barons, my family and I are doing that neutron star thing, that sounds tight.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:The great thing about living in the USSR is although your country is the perpetrator of many of the same human rights abuses as a colonial state, you aren't morally obligated to protest against them because you'll be thrown in jail if you do. shameful, hamprince. you failed to note that the ussr was itself a colonial state. you're never going to make it in the propaganda business, best leave it to those of us who know what we're doing 
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Baloogan posted:USSR was one of the most if not the most horrible country in history on the face of the planet, if they are the bar we're comparing ourselves to then lol we're hosed it was alright imo, some of the satellites got pretty lol though.
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Badger of Basra posted:i know you think that's a good thing but a lot of people have finally agreed that's bad the us constitution doesn't allow slavery (any more) but it's bad for other reasons, many of them a product of how old it is
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:gently caress the barons, my family and I are doing that neutron star thing, that sounds tight. fam, you don't even know what tight is until you exist entirely as matter formed from strange quarks
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Hodgepodge posted:shameful, hamprince. you failed to note that the ussr was itself a colonial state. by colonial state i mean the state in a colony, like the administrations of the Raj or British Kenya, although even in that sense i guess all of the republics other than russia count to some extent
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hakimashou posted:Someone in the UK DnD thread earlier today was posting about how the the US Constitution was a terrible thing because it allows slavery. gonna hire me some german mercenaries 
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Fallen Hamprince posted:the us constitution doesn't allow slavery (any more) but it's bad for other reasons, many of them a product of how old it is his mixing of verb tenses confused me
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So we're all agreed that empires are the best as long as you're the white man.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:by colonial state i mean the state in a colony, like the administrations of the Raj or British Kenya, although even in that sense i guess all of the republics other than russia count to some extent the noble mujaheddin freedom fighters of afganistan certainly thought it counted as colonialism!
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i'm unironically a loyalist Don't you dare try to tie us to their thousand years of Tory darkness. Trump is at least funny.
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Don't you dare try to tie us to their thousand years of Tory darkness. a few generations of rule by the trumps and we may reach the glorious comedic heights of monty python
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Don't you dare try to tie us to their thousand years of Tory darkness. 
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:we would've become independent eventually and then we would have been like canada!!! The Northerners still have the dang queen on their money, is that what you want!?
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Badger of Basra posted:i know you think that's a good thing but a lot of people have finally agreed that's bad The US fought the bloodiest war in its history to end slavery. More americans died fighting over slavery than in all the other wars we've fought put together. Why didn't the british fight a civil war to end the british empire? Were brits just not as good people as Americans?
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hakimashou posted:The US fought the bloodiest war in its history to end slavery. More americans died fighting over slavery than in all the other wars we've fought put together. yeah british people are extremely bad have you not been reading the thread
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hakimashou posted:Someone in the UK DnD thread earlier today was posting about how the the US Constitution was a terrible thing because it allows slavery. it's a pathetic document dude
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Fallen Hamprince posted:the us constitution doesn't allow slavery (any more) but it's bad for other reasons, many of them a product of how old it is Crazy DnDers pointed out that it it "allows slavery" as punishment for a crime. IE, allows for imprisonment.
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It really is a shame Corbyn couldn't have just gone on being a nice eccentric old backbencher cool dude.
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hakimashou posted:Crazy DnDers pointed out that it it "allows slavery" as punishment for a crime. 13th Amendment posted:Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Incarceration isn't slavery ipso facto. It's not slavery or involuntary servitude until the state compels you by force to labor on its behalf.
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whole lotta people that think they wouldn't be in the gulag in the ussr posting itt
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Jose posted:96 posts over night did corbyn resign or someth- Yeah, thread is going entirely off the rails. How's about we try to move the discussion back toward the actual upcoming British elections, rather than flogging on about whether the Soviet Union or Victorian colonialism were greater evils?
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Baloogan posted:Lol Cuckb to victory
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Corbin says the Tori's aren't prepared to deal with cyber attacks
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i belong in the gulag tbh
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jBrereton posted:"We never had these problems at British Leyland" claims Corbyn wrt NHS hacks.
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