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HebrewMagic posted:You owe it to yourself to experience the Bounty Hunter story That's a minority opinion, I think. The question of which class has the best story is subjective of course, and it comes up often enough that some people are sick of it but the best answer is agent and everyone agrees and anyone who says otherwise is trying to trick you
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May 13, 2017 23:35
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The correct answer is anything but Consular.
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May 13, 2017 23:37
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Ainsley McTree posted:That's a minority opinion, I think. The question of which class has the best story is subjective of course, and it comes up often enough that some people are sick of it but the best answer is agent and everyone agrees and anyone who says otherwise is trying to trick you me posted:
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May 13, 2017 23:43
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Which story is the best?
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SWTOR KNIGHTS OF THE ETERNAL THRONE - anything but Consular
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May 14, 2017 00:06
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I think both the original class stories and KOTET have their strong points.
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May 14, 2017 00:26
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HebrewMagic posted:SWTOR KNIGHTS OF THE ETERNAL THRONE - anything but Consular Consular is my highest level Pub character at the moment and I actually really like their storyline so far.  It's cool to play a Jedi as an actual archaeologist and diplomat, and I find it kinda funny how after Act One you're just casually carrying an assload of people around on your ship. Qyzen is a really unique companion, too.
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May 14, 2017 00:31
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My Jedi Consular ended up a the Council's go-to black ops for when they want to get things done but don't want to know how the sausage is made exactly. My advanced medical training has taught me that the best way to cure a patient is with death.
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May 14, 2017 00:40
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fruit on the bottom posted:My Jedi Consular ended up a the Council's go-to black ops for when they want to get things done but don't want to know how the sausage is made exactly. "All bleeding stops eventually" I've played Jedi Consular and Imperial Agent in that order, both were fun in their own way and interesting. Story definitely gets mediocre after the individual class stories end. Sith Warrior played to full Dark Side points is cartoonishly evil and rather dull.
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May 14, 2017 01:18
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I really enjoyed the inquisitor story because if you lipped off to me you ate a face full of lightning.
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May 14, 2017 01:31
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Benthalus posted:"All bleeding stops eventually" LS Sith warrior owns. Agent is great as a contrast to the big dumb Jedi arcs. Sith and Jedi are loving everything up for everyone else and that story calls it out the best.
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May 14, 2017 01:32
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Ainsley McTree posted:That's a minority opinion, I think. The question of which class has the best story is subjective of course, and it comes up often enough that some people are sick of it but the best answer is agent and everyone agrees and anyone who says otherwise is trying to trick you Agent is the best story, Warrior is the best Star Wars story.
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May 14, 2017 01:43
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Kaysette posted:Sith and Jedi are loving everything up for everyone else and that story calls it out the best. The Bounty Hunter story does this pretty good as well. Agent gets a little tiresome for me with how it beats you over the head with it to make sure you get the point. Edit: I mean yeah the Agent spends the first chapter bemoaning the Sith (nevermind the capable Sith like Vowrawn and Marr) if that's your choice but then spends the next two chapters dismantling the organization who's sole purpose is getting rid of Sith/Jedi fuckery. Meanwhile the Bounty Hunter spends the last two chapters getting personally hosed over by both Jedi and Sith. DrunkenGarbageCan fucked around with this message at 02:06 on May 14, 2017 |
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May 14, 2017 01:46
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Benthalus posted:"All bleeding stops eventually" You owe it to yourself to play Light Side Sith Warrior. It is so much better. Normally Bioware games treat the Light and Dark side as two complete extremes, where the light side is lovey dovey and Dark is carefree cruelty, right. Well it is that way for a lot of the stories, like Jedi guardians and consulars. Sith Warrior's lines and actions are completely different. Instead of murdering that sith lord like all sith do, you basically tell the guy "Okay, you work for me now, and I need you to be there when I play my hand." You're more inclined to give out a second chance, because just murdering a subordinate or a weaker rival is less manpower in the empire. Instead of adopting some sort of "I don't kill" policy which goes out the window in an MMO, light side warrior adopts a completely different ideology, Strength absolutely matters, but there is Strength in numbers and unity. As far as I know, the only Sith Lord that has a similar outlook is Darth Marr. You also do get more content by doing lightside sith warrior as opposed to the rest of the cast, because your actions influence whether you get a Light sided or Dark Sided companion at the end of Act 1. Fargin Icehole fucked around with this message at 04:19 on May 14, 2017 |
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May 14, 2017 04:10
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Well, not exactly. It's just one dialogue choice, your alignment doesn't actually influence the change.
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May 14, 2017 04:12
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Aphrodite posted:Well, not exactly. It's just one dialogue choice, your alignment doesn't actually influence the change. If you murder the family in alderaan, and fight the light ghost tatooine, you can still get a light side companion?
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May 14, 2017 04:43
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Apparently if you are Light 1 or higher, you cannot get her Dark side. This is old info though, and may have been changed. But you can get Light side regardless. Yes even if you slaughtered everyone she's ever known.
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May 14, 2017 04:46
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This is also something I've repeated many times but: Dark side smuggler is significantly better. Light side smuggler is just an errand boy for the Republic and ends with a fizzle. Dark side smuggler is taking sweet revenge on every fool who ever crossed you and slowly building a criminal empire. The difference in quality is pretty significant. I think Bounty Hunter might be divisive because it's not as much of a power fantasy as most others... you really do get kicked around a lot. But it's a great scrappy underdog story in my opinion. It's way more Firefly than Star Wars. It's you and your ragtag group of friends against the whole galaxy, just trying to make a space buck and live another day. Also I think the story works a lot better on every level if you keep Mako with you the whole time. Whether you're a male character playing the love story, or a female character palling around with your best friend, Mako and the bounty hunter get a lot of good scenes together.
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May 14, 2017 06:25
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I chose trooper on my f2p account and it's been satisfying, though all your early companions really only like it when you tow the Republic line. Nonetheless, I hit 50 super quick with the XP boost. (Kind of annoying actually because I was doing level 25 content at level 45) What's the best way to proceed? Sub for a month to get all content?
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May 14, 2017 08:34
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Really liking the free version, going to sub up for a month and try it out properly before I get too in to the game to have to backtrack again.
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May 14, 2017 14:54
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olblue posted:Really liking the free version, going to sub up for a month and try it out properly before I get too in to the game to have to backtrack again. Check the guild bank, there should be some free mounts in there!
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May 14, 2017 16:26
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Agent shouldn't be played as a first character if only because his/her storyline come chronologically at the end of all the class storylines, so it really brings all that stuff to a head along with having the most variety and choose in endings. Playing it first will spoil all the other storylines.
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May 14, 2017 17:35
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Is there a chronological order to the class storylines other than agent at the end?
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May 14, 2017 17:49
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Skinty McEdger posted:Is there a chronological order to the class storylines other than agent at the end? It's blurry in the middle, but Bounty Hunter and Trooper are the first two, in that order. I believe Sith Warrior is toward the end, if not the second to last, as is the Consular.
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May 14, 2017 17:53
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Skinty McEdger posted:Is there a chronological order to the class storylines other than agent at the end? Yes. I don't know it so this isn't very helpful, but yeah they have a rough order.
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Fuzz posted:Agent shouldn't be played as a first character if only because his/her storyline come chronologically at the end of all the class storylines, so it really brings all that stuff to a head along with having the most variety and choose in endings. I'd agree with that yeah. At least play warrior or inquisitor first so that you can appreciate the new perspective of sith politics that you get from the agent POV. I would also say to make sure that you do sith warrior (and maybe inquisitor too) before Jedi knight because there's something in the JK story that'll make you feel real dumb in the warrior story and it helps if you don't know about it
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May 14, 2017 18:02
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Ainsley McTree posted:I'd agree with that yeah. At least play warrior or inquisitor first so that you can appreciate the new perspective of sith politics that you get from the agent POV. Counterpoint: the SW story actually takes place after the JK one, or at least it ends after the JK one. A lot of stories overlap throughout the first acts, but their Act 3s have a specific order.
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May 14, 2017 18:07
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Skinty McEdger posted:Is there a chronological order to the class storylines other than agent at the end? Sort of, but it's not terribly consistent and it goes back and forth between storylines. Someone tried to figure it out on a planet-by-planet basis: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=903179
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May 14, 2017 20:03
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I do adore my LS Sith Warrior and LS Sith Sorceror. I have to get some Republic chars up on the new server so I can get cheevos. How is DS Knight and DS Consular? I absolutely loathe the way Marauder/Juggernaut plays, so I'll probably leave that till the next 250% XP weekend, but Sorceror/Sage is my jam, so I'll tuck into that right now.
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May 15, 2017 10:27
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How come Command Rank ups never give any useful gear? Is there a certain rank you need to reach first at 70?
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I said come in! posted:How come Command Rank ups never give any useful gear? Is there a certain rank you need to reach first at 70? ranks 1-89 will give 230 gear max, then tier 2 90-179 for 236 gear, 180 and up for 242 gear. But even if you do easy story mode operations the bosses drop tokens for 236 gear.
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Eltoasto posted:ranks 1-89 will give 230 gear max, then tier 2 90-179 for 236 gear, 180 and up for 242 gear. But even if you do easy story mode operations the bosses drop tokens for 236 gear. Two things to add - The chances of getting a useful (Artifact or Legendary) piece increase the higher up in Command Rank for that tier you are - A box at Command Rank 1 has a much lower chance of dropping a set piece than Command Rank 80. At rank 300 you hit Tier 4, which is *guaranteed* to drop a Prototype or higher grade piece of gear with every box. And even the Prototype (Grade 244) blue armor pieces are set pieces. So while running Operations is the best way to gear, there is an advantage to focusing on one character and getting them to 300 if you want to main them as you'll get full high end set bonus pretty quick.
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Coldforge posted:The correct answer is anything but
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I dunno, the Trooper is mildly interesting up until the end of Chapter 1? But otherwise, yeah. Coldforge posted:The correct answer is anything but
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Medullah posted:At rank 300 you hit Tier 4, which is *guaranteed* to drop a Prototype or higher grade piece of gear with every box. And even the Prototype (Grade 244) blue armor pieces are set pieces. With the caveat that the 244 blue pieces have the lettered stat distribution so they'll be downgrades from 240-242 Artifact gear for just about everyone. My Sorc hit complete 248's around the equivalent of Command Rank 550 and that was buying the MH/OH with Unassembled Components.
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DrunkenGarbageCan posted:With the caveat that the 244 blue pieces have the lettered stat distribution so they'll be downgrades from 240-242 Artifact gear for just about everyone. Good point, I forgot to mention Armorings only. The Enhancements are good though. It should also be again reiterated that high end gear is only necessary if you're doing high end content. If you're just doing dailies, heroics and Story Mode raiding, Tier 1 set gear is more than enough for anything.
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May 15, 2017 16:00
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Trooper would have been cool if they did more to make you feel like you're part of this grand army/fleet that the republic apparently has. But instead, with limited exception, every mission is you and a friend taking on the empire by yourself, just like every other class. It'd have been better if they had more set piece missions like the finale, where other forces are doing things alongside you, but I guess that's hard or whatever
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The warrior has a section where they have to assign members of their team to carry out different parts of a mission, and you'll have varying degrees of success depending on who is assigned to what job. The trooper should have had a lot more scenes like that, since you're supposed to be leading a squad.
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I've been enjoying Bounty Hunter, Imperial Agent, and Sith Juggernaut- and I honestly think the Jedi Counselor's pretty fun, too. I'm still in Act 1 for all of them, but of the stories I've been trying out, the Trooper feels the most predictable and a little bit weak so far. I assume things pick up significantly in Act 2 overall, but I'm jumping back and forth so much and enjoying all the different classes. Admittedly, I don't feel quite as loving busted now that the leveling curve has returned to normal, but that was too good to last 
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Break a leg!
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Moreau posted:I do adore my LS Sith Warrior and LS Sith Sorceror. DS consular is a bit better in that regard imo. But it still had a few "WTF do I really want to do that?" moments.
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CeeCee posted:I was not a fan of DS JK. I think it was mostly due to the voice acting...especially male, which I thought was terrible both ds/ls. The ds choices seemed way too cartoonishly evil to me. More so than DS imp guys. It's weird to see people complain about male voice acting, and not have it be about the consular. Terrible voice, awful meandering story, the worst companions; consular has it all.
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