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prefect posted:they should, but you should never count on it. people ignore that poo poo all the time i don't count on it. loving yospos, im not justifying crushing the cyclist with the existence of traffic rules. "wow latvian dude stop expecting lawful drivers like you have in latvia"
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cinci zoo sniper posted:i do drive and i guess i am sorry for thinking that other drivers should clearly abide the traffic rules, especially explicit signage and road mark-up for adults, driving in traffic (as opposed to driving on your own little planet with no-one else) is based not on what should happen but what is happening. only a dangerous shithead idiot would assume someone who isn't signaling a turn is going to turn and only a literal criminal would act on said assumption. e: it's much more against the law to drive over someone than it is to drive under someone 3D Megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 11:57 on May 15, 2017 |
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cinci zoo sniper posted:i don't count on it. loving yospos, im not justifying crushing the cyclist with the existence of traffic rules. it drives me nuts, because i really want to be able to understand what's going to happen with the traffic, but other people do not give a gently caress 
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btw the "explicit signage" is not visible to the driver of the car and it's quite possible the painted arrow isn't, either.
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prefect posted:but other people do not give a gently caress this should be the first thing they teach you
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Jerry Cotton posted:for adults, driving in traffic (as opposed to driving on your own little planet with no-one else) is based not on what should happen but what is happening. only a dangerous shithead idiot would assume someone who isn't signaling a turn is going to turn and only a literal criminal would act on said assumption. again, latvians are last people in europe to be told about driving in real world differing from driving in theory. person in a turning lane turning without turn indicator is much more reasonable assumption than them continuing straight, since, at least here, use of turn indicators in similar circumstances is lax at best. neither of that, of anything ive said before, to repeat, is a justification of cyclist being crushed. all im saying is that in latvia cyclist would be held at fault much more than the driver, especially if the circumstances on the forward lane did not permit safe emergency braking for the turning car.
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Jerry Cotton posted:btw the "explicit signage" is not visible to the driver of the car and it's quite possible the painted arrow isn't, either. drive perfectly sees the road mark-up on the intersection though, which is why i explicitly mentioned it
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The alternative angles don't make it look very good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNF97ytfbH8
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MononcQc posted:The alternative angles don't make it look very good all all streets there just under constant video surveillance for 50 angles?
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somebody quoted this in the c-spam trump thread, so i'm going to be listening to it on repeat for the next hour or two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA4-4ifhixg  
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the only reason the cyclist is in the turn lane -- and just barely -- is to give himself some space from the cars passing him on the left. although i suppose the court wouldn't really care about "barely" and the reasons why. but, is it absolutely insane for him to be riding on what looks like a highway? good god, yes it is insane.
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Trabant posted:the only reason the cyclist is in the turn lane -- and just barely -- is to give himself some space from the cars passing him on the left. although i suppose the court wouldn't really care about "barely" and the reasons why. there's nothing insane about cycling on a european highway
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May 15, 2017 15:10
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MononcQc posted:The alternative angles don't make it look very good Looks like the car started rolling backwards to finish the job 
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May 15, 2017 15:14
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lol nothing wrong with a cyclist on the highway, they are allowed while he SHOULD HAVE turned in that lane - the driver should have shown common sense and not plowed into someone she was obviously distracted though with something and broke that guys ribs sure cyclists can be a bit of a nuisance but you give them room and adapt its funny this has to be explained
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how do you get hit by a car on your bike? haven't you all ridden a bike sensibly for like 25 years and never been smooshed? it's cause you're smart and realize a car can crush the gently caress out of you whether you're right or not so you make sure not to be in the path of a murder machine driven by an idiot. but you don't see bikes on the autobahn wtf bro
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the lesson my dad taught me about riding a bike, and that i follow when driving as well, is that "anything bigger than you has the right of way"
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Someone turning doesn't though and has to wait until all traffic is clear before moving or at least enough distance between you and the oncoming traffic to make it in time.
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May 15, 2017 15:24
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MononcQc posted:The alternative angles don't make it look very good car driver was an idiot and not paying attention. cyclist was an idiot for not being in a car.
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May 15, 2017 15:26
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muckswirler posted:but you don't see bikes on the autobahn wtf bro
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cinci zoo sniper posted:there's nothing insane about cycling on a european highway Vintersorg posted:lol nothing wrong with a cyclist on the highway, they are allowed hell, it's legal for me to do so on texas highways. even tempting when the roads turn into parking lots. that'd also be insane, except even more so on account of it being, you know, texas.
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Driver should have seen him, but lol @ it being OK to just not turn in a turn lane and expecting the whole world to adapt around you
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Trabant posted:hell, it's legal for me to do so on texas highways. even tempting when the roads turn into parking lots. just strap a large gun to your cycle
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theflyingorc posted:expecting the whole world to adapt around you cyclists
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Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:the lesson my dad taught me about riding a bike, and that i follow when driving as well, is that "anything bigger than you has the right of way"
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You run over a dude by crossing into his lane with the dead front of your car, with plenty of time to see him coming without any traffic nor pressure, while starting from a full stop. I don't really care that the cyclist didn't signal or wasn't even supposed to be there to begin with, or even if the cyclist were a braindead set of children on each other's shoulders on their way to close a drug deal. That is mighty lovely car driving right there, no way you can excuse it. If the car were software (a reverse  ), that driver would be a developer who just shipped a thing that runs shell commands as root into the back-up system straight from the production PHP front-end.
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muckswirler posted:how do you get hit by a car on your bike? haven't you all ridden a bike sensibly for like 25 years and never been smooshed? it's cause you're smart and realize a car can crush the gently caress out of you whether you're right or not so you make sure not to be in the path of a murder machine driven by an idiot. Back when I was a carless college student I got hit by a car jumping the curb to get past someone trying to make a left turn. I was biking on a sidewalk and someone hit me because their tunnel vision didn't allow them to see anything but other vehicle that was inconsiderate enough to make a legal left turn in front of them.
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b b b but the user deployed the poop code maybe they should be blamed, the idiots!
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Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:the lesson my dad taught me about riding a bike, and that i follow when driving as well, is that "anything bigger than you has the right of way" this is the bonnot gang, one should definitely yield to them 
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the other day I drove into a child chasing her ball into the street. I flipped the finger to the parents, and since the street belongs to cars and I had a right of way, I sent them the bill for the car wash. They can pay with bitcoin.
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d64 posted:while i agree with the sentiment here - be careful and never assume others pay attention or even care about the rules - this is still the wrong way to put it. when crossing traffic has right of way, i clearly signal my intention to yield by slowing down well beforehand, seeking eye contact, etc. i don't do the same when i have the right of way according to the rules, as the above saying would suggest. does not mean that i play chicken with vehicles or put myself in danger, but not safely asserting my place in traffic would only reinforce the thinking of the few assholes who have the opposite idea "i am bigger so i have the right of way". that guy's got to stop… he'll see us last words said by james dean before dying in a car accident
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MononcQc posted:the other day I drove into a child chasing her ball into the street. I flipped the finger to the parents, and since the street belongs to cars and I had a right of way, I sent them the bill for the car wash. They can pay with bitcoin. You're also basically not understanding how the brain works when solving movement tasks or w/e.
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why are you guys posting and responding to each others comments????
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KoRMaK posted:why are you guys posting and responding to each others comments???? 
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Kenny Logins posted:otoh:
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theflyingorc posted:...you do get that if a child suddenly darts out in front of your car you may not be held accountable, right? That it depends on context? Ah yes sorry. Let me put it in context of the video at hand. I was at a full stop, and I saw a child coming into the other side of the road. The child had been running and visible for a good 10-15 seconds and headed in a straight line that would go next to my car, and would escape unscathed if I did nothing but keep waiting or had gone in the last 30 seconds. I waited the right amount of time and then pressed the accelerator and ran head first into the toddler. This is the toddler's fault because
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KoRMaK posted:why are you guys posting and responding to each others comments???? trying to attract you're mum
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MononcQc posted:Ah yes sorry. Let me put it in context of the video at hand.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:that line is not straight and terminates in a turn before you Yeah okay sorry go ahead and make sure to run the idiot over then
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they should revoke that bicyclist's license for such careless driving
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