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EvanTH posted:Ehhh I feel pretty comfortable refering to pro players as "bad" even though literally every player highschool and up who can walk without pain is better than me at the sport. It's comparing them to their peers, not to me. I'm good with criticizing play planning or execution, and there always has to be room for non-athletes/artists/journalists/etc. to criticize the work of athletes/artists/journalists/etc. I'm talking more about someone like a Whitlock calling someone lazy on a handful of plays and some bad assumptions while lacking any self-awareness or humility. e: Sara Walsh was fired from ESPN shortly after she was preparing to come back from maternity leave. This seems especially messed up now after it turns out that she had previously miscarried in the middle of a live Sportscenter: https://www.instagram.com/p/BUF_v90gu7e/?taken-by=sarawalsh10 Anals of History fucked around with this message at 12:29 on May 15, 2017 |
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DJExile posted:ESPN's Shelley Smith was rushed to the hospital after Spurs/Warriors when she suffered a possible stroke "Sounds like a good time for a layoff." - ESPN management
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Is it better or worse that ESPN is still paying out the duration of contracts instead of giving buyouts? On the one hand it's nice that a bunch of these people with longer contracts will get paid. On the other other hand it makes it harder to negotiate a new contract somewhere else.
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BWV posted:Is it better or worse that ESPN is still paying out the duration of contracts instead of giving buyouts? On the one hand it's nice that a bunch of these people with longer contracts will get paid. On the other other hand it makes it harder to negotiate a new contract somewhere else. It definitely hurts the lower-tier names, because sitting at home for several months significantly impacts their visibility -- and broadcasting is so superficial, it's basically, "Who are you and what have you done lately?"
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BWV posted:Is it better or worse that ESPN is still paying out the duration of contracts instead of giving buyouts? On the one hand it's nice that a bunch of these people with longer contracts will get paid. On the other other hand it makes it harder to negotiate a new contract somewhere else. I don't think it hurts them to continue receiving their paychecks on the schedule they are used to while applying for new jobs. I mean, once they find one, they lose the ESPN paycheck, but I would think this would still enable them to take their time finding a new job. A buyout for the remaining amount would have been better, though, since it would mean more money in-pocket if they find a job before their ESPN contract would have normally expired.
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I'm sure ESPN would be willing to void the contract if that person was able to find another job. Until ESPN prevents someone, who they laid off who is seeking a new job, from seeking and getting a new job it's probably better for the employees that they are on contract and getting paid. While being able to relax and look for a job on their own pace. but lmao if ESPN wants to take the PR hit by trying to enforce a non-compete on their former talent.
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Benne posted:Beth Mowins is good and earned that spot She's not as awful as some people make her out to be for obvious reasons but this is being pretty generous. She's not, like, wildly incompetent or anything but she is really really really boring and generic.
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MourningView posted:She's not as awful as some people make her out to be for obvious reasons but this is being pretty generous. She's not, like, wildly incompetent or anything but she is really really really boring and generic. I'll take that over Gruden
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Yeah there's nothing bad about Beth but she's a pretty bland call and her tone of voice never changes.
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On the other hand they had been letting loving Berman call that game so blandly competent is I guess a step up
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oh yeah you can do a ton worse than Beth Mowins, to be sure. She follows the action well and doesn't gently caress up names.
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BWV posted:Is it better or worse that ESPN is still paying out the duration of contracts instead of giving buyouts? On the one hand it's nice that a bunch of these people with longer contracts will get paid. On the other other hand it makes it harder to negotiate a new contract somewhere else. The guy who wrote that ESPN book talked about this on Richard Deitsch's podcast. They openly told everyone they won't stand in the way of them finding another job and they're basically hedging on these people loving their jobs enough that they won't want to just sit around and get paid until their deals expire. ESPN will pay them what is owed until they find another job, at which point ESPN is off the hook. Also, without directly saying it, he pretty much said the TrueHoop dudes getting tossed was a condition of getting Woj.
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https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski/status/864136349896593420
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well i mean it's the stronger conference and 2 american teams speaking of jim miller https://twitter.com/JimMiller/status/864120021894799364
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oh good, more John Buccigross screaming incoherently during the Frozen Four, awesome.
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DJExile posted:oh good, more John Buccigross screaming incoherently during the Frozen Four, awesome. What, you don't want to take a trip to roof city?
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BWV posted:Is it better or worse that ESPN is still paying out the duration of contracts instead of giving buyouts? On the one hand it's nice that a bunch of these people with longer contracts will get paid. On the other other hand it makes it harder to negotiate a new contract somewhere else. For ESPN it's the smart move since even if only one person finds a new job somewhere else they are at least off the hook for that money. For the employees, anyone hiring will know they've been laid off and will probably use that as a negotiating tactic, so it really depends on where they're at financially and status-wise in the industry.
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Yeah paying out through the term of the contract like that is pretty standard across the media industry.
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https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/864456951530434562 https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/864458088686002176 https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/864458450113351680 https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/864458758000439300 https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/864459326559277056 Vertical Lime fucked around with this message at 13:37 on May 16, 2017 |
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I am so loving here for a Bomani Jones-Pablo Torre show
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sportsgenius86 posted:I am so loving here for a Bomani Jones-Pablo Torre show Same
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Who actually watches ESPN during the day if they're employed? That's not supposed to sound dismissive, I just never understood what the audience was.
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It's on in the gym locker room.
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The B1G genuinely didn't think they'd get blowback for wanting to show Rutgers vs. Purdue football on friday nights
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DJExile posted:The B1G genuinely didn't think they'd get blowback for wanting to show Rutgers vs. Purdue football on friday nights $20M bonus. Henchman of Santa posted:Who actually watches ESPN during the day if they're employed? That's not supposed to sound dismissive, I just never understood what the audience was. I have no idea. It's hard not to be dismissive because so much of the response reeks of, uh, "economic anxiety." Anals of History fucked around with this message at 16:21 on May 16, 2017 |
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Henchman of Santa posted:Who actually watches ESPN during the day if they're employed? That's not supposed to sound dismissive, I just never understood what the audience was. They also upload all of their talking heads shows as podcasts which is how I listen to their stuff. I wonder how they were convinced to do that honestly, since it had to drop their viewership by some amount. I mean it was a drop in the bucket for convincing me to drop cable.
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OH yeah I don't doubt it's a money play, I just loved the facade of thinking people would want to watch it
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Henchman of Santa posted:Who actually watches ESPN during the day if they're employed? That's not supposed to sound dismissive, I just never understood what the audience was. The waiting area at SPORT CLIPS, the TVs in TGI Fridays/Applebee's/Chili's, and sometimes the TV wall at Target/Best Buy/Walmart. College kids. Airports across the land. I've been sitting around the house for the last couple weeks waiting for a new contract to start and I've noticed my daytime sports heads yelling at each other viewing as increased from "none" to "lots." Maybe there's a lot of people like me.
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DJExile posted:The B1G genuinely didn't think they'd get blowback for wanting to show Rutgers vs. Purdue football on friday nights I mean, it's both smart and stupid in the sense that it's additional money and more eyes on poo poo teams people otherwise wouldn't watch, but you'd have to be completely retarded to not expect blowback.
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What i really love out of the Friday night thing is even Northwestern told them to gently caress outta here with that.
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# ? May 16, 2017 16:39 |
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As someone who works in a bar/restaurant, the channels currently on my TVs are: -MLB Network -NBCSN -beIN Sports
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euphronius posted:It's on in the gym locker room.
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Josh Lyman posted:Those aren't counted by Nielsen though. THey're there partly because they're cheap (talent costs notwithstanding) and easy to produce, and pretty much anything you put on in daytime weekday slots is gravy.
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Josh Lyman posted:Those aren't counted by Nielsen though. Nielsen has developed a way to count those though. http://adage.com/article/media/espn-bellies-bar/304048/
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Josh Lyman posted:Those aren't counted by Nielsen though. Not knowing anything about the technology that underpins them, I'm honestly surprised that cable and satellite boxes don't report back what they're tuned to.
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howe_sam posted:Not knowing anything about the technology that underpins them, I'm honestly surprised that cable and satellite boxes don't report back what they're tuned to. They do. On Direct TV you can even see it, it's in your guide as like "most popular shows right now". The issue is what advertisers will accept to base how much they will pay on.
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Got a mail today from Nielson saying I've been selected to participate in one of their surveys. I don't have a cable sub or get OTA channels and just stream everything (PlayStation Vue subscriber) so I'm kind of curious what the questions are and how I will answer them.
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Kibner posted:Got a mail today from Nielson saying I've been selected to participate in one of their surveys. I don't have a cable sub or get OTA channels and just stream everything (PlayStation Vue subscriber) so I'm kind of curious what the questions are and how I will answer them. Hopefully they're taking into account people like you, because there are going to be a whole hell of a lot more very soon. I've got google fiber so I believe I technically 'stream' everything too even though I pay for their TV service which looks and works like cable tv.
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https://twitter.com/Ben_ESPN/status/864580597813006338
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Can we rip on the ABC/ESPN NBA coverage guys? I think the only person I like is Doris Burke.
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