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JawKnee posted:those aren't exclusive though? One also isn't evidence of the other
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Narrative wise, it's trying to be that smaller contained story like ME2. The asset reuse thing on the other hand feels far more like ME1 which was just full of side missions all set in the same loving building with a couple of boxes moved.
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May 15, 2017 18:25
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Didn't Gerstmann get fired from Gamespot like 10 years ago for giving Kane and Lynch a 6.0 or something?
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May 15, 2017 18:28
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presumably, yeah. He denied it I think.
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May 15, 2017 18:29
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In the end I could see it going either way. Like lol at the idea of review scores having a huge effect on a game's sales, but also lol at the idea that a game review would cost very much to buy and marketing has more money than god already so its a wash.
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May 15, 2017 18:31
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Serf posted:Didn't Gerstmann get fired from Gamespot like 10 years ago for giving Kane and Lynch a 6.0 or something? Which is fair. That game deserved a 2.
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May 15, 2017 18:31
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You can get enough fanboys fawning over a game on youtube or on various tiny gaming sites that spending any extra money on making sure the reviews are 'good' is a waste.
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May 15, 2017 18:33
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Serf posted:Didn't Gerstmann get fired from Gamespot like 10 years ago for giving Kane and Lynch a 6.0 or something? That wasn't a paid for review though. I doubt there are/were any mainstream press outlets outchea literally taking money for reviews. Jeff's gamespot thing was a mix of turnover at the top of Gamespot where someone who wasn't used to that specific business took over Gamespot. They then handled the situation where they were threatened from a company poorly. Where most outlets with experienced crew at the top would have laughed in their face.
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Dexo posted:That wasn't a paid for review though. I could have sworn the company behind Kane and Lynch wasn't happy with the score and threatened to pull ads for their games over it. Which is I imagine how they would exert pressure over reviewers anyways. They pay for the ads that keep the sites going, and therefore can punish/reward them at will.
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May 15, 2017 18:36
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ashpanash posted:You can get enough fanboys fawning over a game on youtube or on various tiny gaming sites that spending any extra money on making sure the reviews are 'good' is a waste. That wasn't really a thing when DA2 was out.
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May 15, 2017 18:39
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Serf posted:I could have sworn the company behind Kane and Lynch wasn't happy with the score and threatened to pull ads for their games over it. Which is I imagine how they would exert pressure over reviewers anyways. They pay for the ads that keep the sites going, and therefore can punish/reward them at will. Yeah. But mainstream big sites like that usually don't care about those threats. Especially at that time when it was pretty much IGN/Gamespot, or if you wanted print Game Informer. They would lose one game's advertising for the short term, but the next game they wanted pushed in front of the most eyes as possible they would come crawling back, because there were no other options.
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May 15, 2017 18:40
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Iron Crowned posted:I have gone back to playing XCOM 2, much better choice for shooting aliens me too it has way better mass effect than andromeda
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May 15, 2017 18:42
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Lol yeah it's not like there's a loving check written with "90+ review score" on the info line, it's all about advertising dollars and access. There are a ton of unspoken rules and lmao if you don't understand the economics of the gaming press. quote:Reviews only have an impact if they're 90+, and then the impact is huge. This isn't some gamer gate bullshit, those guys are morons.
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May 15, 2017 18:44
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Nowadays you don't even have to go through all the trouble of paying for dinner when you can just give a free copy of the game + pyjack plushie to some lowband streamer who will say anything you want at no additional cost.
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orcane posted:Hello: I mean you need an option for the cougar hunter crowd
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NikkolasKing posted:I was aware of the hatred for DA2. But I didn't know about how at least some of it was due to hype backlash. back then there was a poster on SA, snakes and cakes i think, who kept track of the media cycle just to record for posterity how bad it was, he owned almost every single press release bioware put out exquisite tea posted:Nowadays you don't even have to go through all the trouble of paying for dinner when you can just give a free copy of the game + pyjack plushie to some lowband streamer who will say anything you want at no additional cost. i briefly watched a few streamers do me:a and they still could only manage cautious optimism for andromeda 2 rather than directly praise andromeda -the game they were actually playing - because of the non-stop bugs on screen, like models hovering in T-pose or enemies spawning in manpiles i guess even streamers have their limits
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May 15, 2017 19:17
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Some characters in ME3 had a weird pasty look that wasn't there in ME2.
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May 15, 2017 19:45
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1. ME1: Interesting game, inherent flaws in the combat system and inventory. DA1: Interesting game, inherent flaws in the magic system (Combo spells that break the game.) 2. DA2: Interesting character friend/rival system and interesting story. Rushed, repeated environments and flaws in combat (Wave-spawn enemies) ME2: Interesting characters and story, only minor flaws and some people crying about a humanoid reaper and the regression of all ammo in the universe. 3. ME3: Good game all around until the last 10% of the story that drops the ball on everything. DA3: Overly detailed and oversized environments with nothing in them, flawed combat system, comical story. (First bioware game I couldn't complete.) 4. ME4: Overly detailed and oversized environments with nothing in them, flawed combat system, comical story. DA4: ??? So far it looks like Bioware has been going downhill across the board: -Story and Writing has suffered since DA2 -Animations have suffered since ME1 -Combat systems oscillate between good and bad. -Environments keep getting larger and emptier -Cost keeps going up
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I thought DAI was a lot of fun and a really good game but I also recognized really quick that I'm not going to give a poo poo about 75% of the content.
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May 15, 2017 20:32
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Has this game made anyone appreciate or change their opinion about ME 3? I'm about as big a fanboy as you can get for Bioware, in as much as I'll pretty much support them on anything because I've always liked their products. But now I'll be paying a lot more attention to which Bioware Studio is making the games. On another note I recently got a copy of Game Informer and they were doing their top 100 RPGs list and they put Witcher 3 1 below Mass Effect 2, and it's one of the only times I've outloud scoffed at a list, since more are useless. My wife asked me if Witcher 3 was that good and I told her that it has almost ruined other games for me in as much as it feels unfair to compare them. I'm not even going to expect something close to what we got for Cyberpunk because the universe doesn't feel that kind.
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May 15, 2017 21:01
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Ok, I bought the wrong game I get it
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ME3 was not a good game until the last 10%. It was a really bad game except for the refined shootmans mechanics and the genophage story arc. It started really shittily on earth and then you had dumb dream sequences and then you Pinocchio'ed the geth and then Kai Leng and holy poo poo it was terrible.
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May 15, 2017 21:12
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Kai Leng wasn't over the top enough. Revengeance that poo poo.
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May 15, 2017 21:14
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Serf posted:Didn't Gerstmann get fired from Gamespot like 10 years ago for giving Kane and Lynch a 6.0 or something? Yeah. At a time when their entire website was plastered with wall to wall Kane & Lynch ads.
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May 15, 2017 21:14
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I have a lifetime ban from the IGN forums for posting a scathing review of McGriddles.
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May 15, 2017 21:15
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:ME3 was not a good game until the last 10%. I liked it until the end the first time around but after replaying ME2 and going back into it wow ME3 had some real problems.
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May 15, 2017 21:15
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NikkolasKing posted:The Dragon Age series has always had good music but Inquisition had a few standout pieces, including what I consider potentially the single greatest track in the whole series. DancingShade posted:I like well written party based RPGs a lot too. The classic Ultimas, Baldur's Gate/PoE and especially how it worked in Tyranny. RBA Starblade posted:I thought DAI was a lot of fun and a really good game but I also recognized really quick that I'm not going to give a poo poo about 75% of the content. Nichael fucked around with this message at 21:37 on May 15, 2017 |
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May 15, 2017 21:35
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:ME3 was not a good game until the last 10%. It sure was convenient that they discovered the possibility of a magic anti-Reaper button on Mars that would turn the Reapers off, the instant the reapers actually invade
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RBA Starblade posted:I thought DAI was a lot of fun and a really good game but I also recognized really quick that I'm not going to give a poo poo about 75% of the content. This. In my three full playthroughs of Inquisition, there are some regions I never did (like Hissing Wastes beyond getting the armor recipes), and I skipped most of the side content in my second and third playthrough. The main quest is fantastic, and the game has the best companions in a modern Bioware game. There's a fantastic game underneath the pseudo MMO bullshit. Trespasser is amazing, DAI would be the game of the decade if the main game had been as good as that DLC.
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Torrannor posted:This. In my three full playthroughs of Inquisition, there are some regions I never did (like Hissing Wastes beyond getting the armor recipes), and I skipped most of the side content in my second and third playthrough. The main quest is fantastic, and the game has the best companions in a modern Bioware game. There's a fantastic game underneath the pseudo MMO bullshit. Trespasser is amazing, DAI would be the game of the decade if the main game had been as good as that DLC. It came out in the same decade as Witcher 3 so does not compute.
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Perfect Potato posted:It sure was convenient that they discovered the possibility of a magic anti-Reaper button on Mars that would turn the Reapers off, the instant the reapers actually invade It's funny I forgot to specify how loving dumb of an idea the crucible is Weird that this reaper off button has survived and been incrementally improved for a bazillion cycles and passed on from dying species to new species that isn't even at the "make wheel" stage at the time, yet somehow the all powerful reaper godfish never once sniffed it out and then snuffed it out. Comes the gently caress on. I've burned it from my memory tbqh.
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The Reapers didn't snuff out the Crucible because they designed the Crucible themselves. It was their galactic failsafe for the Reaper AI to reconsider its programming. The really illogical thing was how TIM somehow abducted the entire Citadel and moved it to Earth. There's no explanation for that.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:It's funny I forgot to specify how loving dumb of an idea the crucible is The whole thing about the current galactic epoch was that it is *strongly* hinted that it is a never-before-seen state of affairs where the civilizations had managed to work together and synthesize their best elements together rather than be some insanely powerful monociv conquering everyone. In other words, "Shepard's cycle" is truly unique even outside of the Prothean warnings. So the idea of the Council managing to use their diversity to synthesize this historical data into a weapon - something those other monolithic conquerors could never do - is pretty thematic, even if it's logically pretty stupid. I appreciated it.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:The whole thing about the current galactic epoch was that it is *strongly* hinted that it is a never-before-seen state of affairs where the civilizations had managed to work together and synthesize their best elements together rather than be some insanely powerful monociv conquering everyone. In other words, "Shepard's cycle" is truly unique even outside of the Prothean warnings. That's fine. But the idea of it surviving so many cycles, as explicitly mentioned in game, is fuckin retarded.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:That's fine. But the idea of it surviving so many cycles, as explicitly mentioned in game, is fuckin retarded. Yeah! It's so unrealistic the magic space gods who seed the universe with a substance that can give people superpowers for millions of years didn't find the Crucible! Flagrant break from the series's otherwise perfect commitment to plausibility and it fails to match with the Reaper's otherwise perfect cleanup record, where they left at least two of their own corpses behind.
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fruit on the bottom posted:Kai Leng wasn't over the top enough. Revengeance that poo poo. gently caress if he had been Sam then me3 would have been the best3
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Nichael posted:Bioware really needs to take this as the biggest lesson from Inquisition and Andromeda. No one likes the fetch quests or the open world content. The resources put into making huge (admittedly pretty) boring zones is a waste. The zones that I remember most from either game focused on a single, tight narrative. If you have to do zones, they should be a lot more like Emprise du Lion or the Jaws of Hakkon area, and a lot less like Eos or the Hinterlands. Considering what we know about where DA4's story is probably going, that game is really going to suffer if it has too much open world meandering. There really isn't a Bioware anymore. Just another EA studio with the branding.
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Get Platinum to put the Vanquish team back together and make the next Mass Effect. Your character has to be a Vanguard.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Get Platinum to put the Vanquish team back together and make the next Mass Effect. Or... hear me out. They just make another Vanquish game.
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chiasaur11 posted:Yeah! Lol the crucible has to survive each and every of the cycles that's been occurring since a very long time ago. The whole plot of 3 is poo poo from a butt
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