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Earlier I somehow came across this transcript of the tragic death of Candace Newmaker, and I was completely unprepared for it. I've read some pretty horrible stuff online, but for some reason this really got to me. Don't read unless you're prepared to be consumed by rage and sadness. Read the Wikipedia page for more information on the circumstances surrounding her death. Pseudo-scientific "alternative" therapies like this can kill people, and they especially kill those children unlucky enough to have stupid parents. There's something about ignorance like this that makes me much more upset than when I'm just reading about some run-of-the-mill psycho.
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Skelicopter posted:Earlier I somehow came across this transcript of the tragic death of Candace Newmaker, and I was completely unprepared for it. I've read some pretty horrible stuff online, but for some reason this really got to me. Don't read unless you're prepared to be consumed by rage and sadness. "Fun" fact. Nancy thomas the woman who adopted "Child of Rage" Beth Thomas is one of the biggest proponents of attachment therapy. She has no degree in psychology or therapy. She's basically the Jenny McCarthy of AT. Candace isn't even the only child who have died in relation to this quackery . Most of them where perpetrated by overwhelmed adoptive parents who used tips they had learned through AT.
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Skelicopter posted:Earlier I somehow came across this transcript of the tragic death of Candace Newmaker, and I was completely unprepared for it. I've read some pretty horrible stuff online, but for some reason this really got to me. Don't read unless you're prepared to be consumed by rage and sadness. This is disgusting. You weren't kidding about being consumed by rage. Quick googling tells me none of them are in prison anymore either.
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May 15, 2017 15:08
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My baby daughter was born two days ago. Why am I reading this? gently caress.
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May 15, 2017 16:24
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Brawnfire posted:My baby daughter was born two days ago. Mine is now 15 months old. Let me tell you, this thread gets less and less entertaining for me through no fault of its own.
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May 16, 2017 00:56
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:Mine is now 15 months old. Let me tell you, this thread gets less and less entertaining for me through no fault of its own. My son's 18 months, and it's not less entertaining to me, just makes me realize how I could absolutely end some people with no remorse.
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May 16, 2017 05:17
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Finding Lisa: A story of murders, mysteries, loss, and, incredibly, new life: A handyman and single dad releases his young daughter to live with another family because he can't care for her. Turns out that he's been molesting her. Turns out he's not her biological father. Turns out he's likely murdered her mother. Turns out he's a serial killer. Turns out that his true identity is still unknown. There is somewhat of a happy ending for the daughter, who's able to find some of her real family.
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May 16, 2017 05:25
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That one is incredibly depressing.
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May 16, 2017 06:14
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Skelicopter posted:Pseudo-scientific "alternative" therapies like this can kill people, and they especially kill those children unlucky enough to have stupid parents. There's something about ignorance like this that makes me much more upset than when I'm just reading about some run-of-the-mill psycho. e: OK maybe it's not all dramatic poo poo, but you get the idea quote:Age: 30
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May 16, 2017 06:26
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HAT FETISH posted:This site is a very thorough compendium of pseudoscience/woo/other non-reality-based poo poo getting people killed, or, failing that, permanently loving their lives up in nasty ways. They've got everything from vaccine denial and homeopathy to UFOs and satanic ritual abuse, with links and citations for every entry. My favorite is the GPS section.
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May 16, 2017 06:29
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Hmm also it doesn't seem to have been updated since like 2008. Shame, it could really use a "punched in face" entry in their holocaust denial category
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May 16, 2017 06:36
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Sorry for turning this into a derail but oh my god lmaoquote:Bart Sibrel
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May 16, 2017 06:39
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HAT FETISH posted:Sorry for turning this into a derail but oh my god lmao There's video
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May 16, 2017 06:41
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5dr7SEzWBA
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May 16, 2017 06:41
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quote:Age: 30 I remember this one! Specifically, it was Megatron. The best part was an internet comment (I know, I know) which said: "That's not a Sam (or whatever the guys actual name was), that's a Robert in disguise." Remember that from b3ta, back when it wasn't completely terrible.
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May 16, 2017 11:24
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I think it's worth mentioning in this thread that Ian Brady is dead.
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May 16, 2017 12:06
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A lot of podcasts get passed around on this thread which isn't really my cup of tea, so I thought I'd show up with another youtube channel suggestion for some entertaining general weirdness. In this thread or the last thread some books were suggested, one of which was Smoke Gets in Your Eyes about the experiences of a young woman working as a crematory operator in California. The author, Caitlin Doughty, is now a licensed mortician who runs a very transparent "green funeral business" and she also has a youtube channel. If you liked her book, you'd more than likely enjoy this channel. She's hilarious but also tackles some hard topics in a very respectful way. If you ever wondered about the weirder aspects of death (coffin birth anyone?) this is a good channel for you.
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May 16, 2017 15:10
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Samovar posted:I remember this one! Specifically, it was Megatron. The best part was an internet comment (I know, I know) which said: Does b3ta still exist? I used to enjoy the question of the week thing that was 99% nerd fantasies and the increasingly poo poo Friday newsletter that just randomly stopped.
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May 16, 2017 15:17
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B3ta still exists, but it's a shadow of its former self
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May 16, 2017 17:08
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Brawnfire posted:My baby daughter was born two days ago. My point is: I don't recommend watching/reading this stuff during an emotional time like that, because every bit of both shows is permanently stuck in my long-term memory.
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May 16, 2017 17:09
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pookel posted:that Carolina Panther player who hired someone to murder his pregnant girlfriend (she died, the baby lived). Rae Carruth. He stopped his car while she was following him so that a hitman could pull up next to her and shoot her. Carruth gets out of jail next year. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/scott-fowler/article109620807.html
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Toxteth OGrady posted:B3ta still exists, but it's a shadow of its former self They've just resurrected the newsletter, oddly enough See they're not releasing Brady's ashes without guarantees they won't be spread on the moors...
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Brawnfire posted:My baby daughter was born two days ago. Rev. Bleech_ posted:Mine is now 15 months old. Let me tell you, this thread gets less and less entertaining for me through no fault of its own. 186 posted:My son's 18 months, and it's not less entertaining to me, just makes me realize how I could absolutely end some people with no remorse. Here, hold my beer. >Have 2 year old >Reread this
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May 16, 2017 18:15
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Danger posted:Here, hold my beer. While I cried reading that article not long after my kids were born, I'm glad I read it. One time when one of my kids was sick, I took both of them to daycare but only dropped one of them off, taking the other home with me. As I was pulling away from daycare, I realized this was the perfect time for me to completely forget about the other guy in the back seat because it was a change from my normal routine of going home and just starting work. I stuck my cellphone in the car door handle as a reminder to take the little guy out. Still a haunting article though. Christ....
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May 16, 2017 18:31
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Danger posted:Here, hold my beer. Here's the weird thing - I completely empathize with the parents in this case. It wasn't malice, they just... forgot. Maybe it's a sign of the times that we're all too drat busy to remember our children in the car, but this is something that person will live with forever. And, quite frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if "forever" for them is only a few months or years before that pain gets to be too much. Now, those kids that walked off and killed the toddler just for fun - the thought of manual decapitation comes forth...
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May 16, 2017 18:37
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186 posted:Now, those kids that walked off and killed the toddler just for fun - the thought of manual decapitation comes forth... As horrific as school shootings or these other heinous acts carried out by kids are, I have a tough time fantasizing about the whole vigilante thing because its easy to imagine that they've matured into completely different people than they were before. Fully grown adults who suffocate a child to death? gently caress them, I have no problem enjoying a vigilante fantasy about what could possibly happen to them if someone decided to do something.
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I struggle with my thoughts on vigilante justice. On the one hand I think certain criminal acts deserve death outside of murder and I absolutely understand the logic behind seeking your own justice outside of the law, and on the other hand its basically just a loving lynching. I always tend to lean toward "vigilante justice is bad" but there's sometimes (mostly when it's crimes against children) that I just wouldn't give the smallest poo poo if the perpetrators got raped to death in prison or murdered in the street.
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May 16, 2017 18:53
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Danger posted:Here, hold my beer. That's the most heartbreaking thing I've read in a while. But then the end. The end was loving incredible.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I struggle with my thoughts on vigilante justice. On the one hand I think certain criminal acts deserve death outside of murder and I absolutely understand the logic behind seeking your own justice outside of the law, and on the other hand its basically just a loving lynching. I always tend to lean toward "vigilante justice is bad" but there's sometimes (mostly when it's crimes against children) that I just wouldn't give the smallest poo poo if the perpetrators got raped to death in prison or murdered in the street. I just try to make sure I'm always aware that its just a fantasy, and the actual reality of tracking one of these people down and doing something to them would not be like it is in the movies. Violence makes me physically ill and its not like I have some delusion that I'd ever be able to actually carry something out. I think its pretty harmless and probably a pretty natural thing that goes through most people's head at one time or another.
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Stairs posted:That's the most heartbreaking thing I've read in a while. Basically fertility clinics are terrified of lawsuits, and they won't implant embryos in anyone they don't 100% trust to follow through on the agreement without any drama.
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Basebf555 posted:As horrific as school shootings or these other heinous acts carried out by kids are, I have a tough time fantasizing about the whole vigilante thing because its easy to imagine that they've matured into completely different people than they were before. Assuming the discussion has moved to the killing of Jamie Bulger, one of the two boys was banged up for possession and distribution of child pornography.
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Jedit posted:Assuming the discussion has moved to the killing of Jamie Bulger, one of the two boys was banged up for possession and distribution of child pornography. True, I didn't want to get into debating specific people and the merits of hurting them or going vigilante on them though.
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Skelicopter posted:Earlier I somehow came across this transcript of the tragic death of Candace Newmaker, and I was completely unprepared for it. I've read some pretty horrible stuff online, but for some reason this really got to me. Don't read unless you're prepared to be consumed by rage and sadness. Every single person responsible for this should be buried alive
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Solice Kirsk posted:I struggle with my thoughts on vigilante justice. On the one hand I think certain criminal acts deserve death outside of murder and I absolutely understand the logic behind seeking your own justice outside of the law, and on the other hand its basically just a loving lynching. I always tend to lean toward "vigilante justice is bad" but there's sometimes (mostly when it's crimes against children) that I just wouldn't give the smallest poo poo if the perpetrators got raped to death in prison or murdered in the street. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYLLoG8zd74
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Finding Lisa: A story of murders, mysteries, loss, and, incredibly, new life: A handyman and single dad releases his young daughter to live with another family because he can't care for her. This was cathartic for me to read. I teared up a bit at the last few paragraphs, where they interviewed Katherine Decker. If she hadn't done that one decent thing, then that girl would be dead, Evans would have lived to kill again, the Beaudins wouldn't have their granddaughter, and we wouldn't know what happened with the Bear Brook Murders. I realise this is the worldweary cynicism thread, but it's nice to think that sometimes good deeds pay dividends like that.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I struggle with my thoughts on vigilante justice. On the one hand I think certain criminal acts deserve death outside of murder and I absolutely understand the logic behind seeking your own justice outside of the law, and on the other hand its basically just a loving lynching. I always tend to lean toward "vigilante justice is bad" but there's sometimes (mostly when it's crimes against children) that I just wouldn't give the smallest poo poo if the perpetrators got raped to death in prison or murdered in the street.
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Pendragon posted:While I cried reading that article not long after my kids were born, I'm glad I read it. One time when one of my kids was sick, I took both of them to daycare but only dropped one of them off, taking the other home with me. As I was pulling away from daycare, I realized this was the perfect time for me to completely forget about the other guy in the back seat because it was a change from my normal routine of going home and just starting work. I stuck my cellphone in the car door handle as a reminder to take the little guy out. I read that just after my son was born. As a result I got in the habit of putting his bag etc in the passenger seat when in the car with him and if I drive alone to work I put my stuff in the back seat so I am in the habit of getting things out of the back seat.
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Atlantic just put out a longform (and sadly posthumous) article by a Pulitzer winning-reporter on being raised in the US by his immigrant parents and also Lola, the slave they imported with them from the Philippines: https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/864609984570675202
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Apraxin posted:Atlantic just put out a longform (and sadly posthumous) article by a Pulitzer winning-reporter on being raised in the US by his immigrant parents and also Lola, the slave they imported with them from the Philippines: Also worth a read is the obituary from when she died. quote:Eudocia Tomas Pulido lived a life marked by a devotion so rare that even those closest to her still struggle to comprehend it.
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