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Trump has been spilling secrets since BEFORE he got sworn in. This is not a new thing he is doing.
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Trump Crisis of the Week™..... The problem is that this, in theory, erodes the nice relationship between our military and civilian government, right? I mean if the head of state shows any sign of being a wildcard all bets have to be off among those intelligence and military folk who work regardless of administration. The other thing is, this broke 9:00pm ET. I don't recall with certainty but this doesn't seem like the first time another loving Trump thing came up around what I might assume is the lagging hour of people viewing news. I'm not questioning that Trump hosed up, but this weekly spectacle of scandal at the late news hour (to be developed tomorrow) is getting to be real tired. And apparently because -reasons- we don't know exactly what the information was that Trump leaked? I'm turning into a conspiracy theorist because in all this confusion I just see some rear end in a top hat's long game.
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May 16, 2017 06:45
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Peetown Manning posted:
It concerned the laptop bomb intel thats been going around the news
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May 16, 2017 06:46
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I want someone like preet bharara to run. There is going to be a lot of animosity towards corruption and cronyism so someone with a history of prosecuting corruption would do well.
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May 16, 2017 06:49
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He provided intel from an allied source in ISIS pertaining to airplane bombing plans with laptops. He has the authority to do that. The optics are awful, and there might be blowback from our allies.. but Trump is entirely within his discretion to do this.
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May 16, 2017 06:50
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Probably the most legal thing he's done with Russia to be honest.
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May 16, 2017 06:51
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:It concerned the laptop bomb intel thats been going around the news Thank you. Now that I read something other than the NYT I see that detail. Sounds like something that threatens civilians and legitimate to share with Russia right? Unless he disclosed how he got the information right?
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May 16, 2017 06:59
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Reverand maynard posted:I want someone like preet bharara to run. There is going to be a lot of animosity towards corruption and cronyism so someone with a history of prosecuting corruption would do well. Better hope he doesn't like prostitutes.
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May 16, 2017 07:04
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ded posted:Trump has been spilling secrets since BEFORE he got sworn in. This is not a new thing he is doing. There is a difference between spilling secrets and completely loving up the ability to work with foreign contacts under the table for sweet sweet intel that actually helps protect this country. Trump did the latter. LtCol J. Krusinski posted:He provided intel from an allied source in ISIS pertaining to airplane bombing plans with laptops. Yes its legal. Thats not the problem. Its selling out sources who were operating under a "tell no one" agreement with probably the CIA. He just ruined a very important intel tool. You know better than most of us what a gently caress up this was.
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May 16, 2017 07:08
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The only people that really ~get~ what a big deal handling sensitive information is are people that get directly involved in it. To someone like Trump it's just abstract bullshit that does not apply to them. So they will go and think it's really no big deal to say something that will end up getting someone killed because naaaah that won't happen!
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May 16, 2017 07:14
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Whats real loving stupid about this is how we are going to have to hear that rust belt voters don't care because *JOBS*. Motherfuckers who don't care about this are straight loving retarded. He just hosed our national security. No reasonable intel agency outside of the US should work with us until Trump, Pence, the entire administration and the GOP propping him up is out of the government. Our own Intel agencies shouldn't be briefing him on the god drat traffic conditions in DC he is that loving incompetent and dangerous.
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May 16, 2017 07:23
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Dead Reckoning posted:Yeah, those dipshits were singing "na na na na, na na na na, hey hey, goodbye" at Republicans after the AHCA passed. This is a reference to the GOP singing the same thing at the Democrats in 1993 as they passed Clinton's tax bill and swept Congress via Newt Gingrich's Contract with America, FYI. There's not many people in the House that remember that, fewer still on the Republican side, and it wasn't something that got publicized in the wake of the House actually passing the AHCA. quote:They're convinced that Republicans will gently caress up, and voters will just come crawling back without them having to change a thing. This, on the other hand, is a valid point with a caveat: There's far fewer "moderates" than you'd expect from polling. A sizable number of Republicans identify as "moderate" or "independent", simply because they don't want to be associated with the frothing lunatics of the GOP. Democrats, up until recently, didn't have this problem because the party itself is centrist enough that if you weren't going to call yourself a Democrat, you're either a Republican or vote for a lunatic third party. Basically, politics as SEC college football affiliation means that there's no room for moderates and the general public doesn't shift except in reaction to major events (Civil Rights Act turning the South from permanent Democrat to permanent Republican, etc). If the Democrats want to take back control of the government, they're not going to do so by chasing down Republican-lite voters with Republican-lite policies. They need to stake out a firm position on the left, in contrast to Trump and the GOP, and offer a viable alternative. If they don't do this, they are royally hosed. It's easy to vote against Trump and cause a wave in the House, but that's not going to amount to anything if the newly-appointed Democrats push Diet GOP policies in the end.
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May 16, 2017 07:58
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Oh wow, a 147 new post I wonder what hap-  I wonder how he's going to top this one.
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May 16, 2017 08:14
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Genocide Tendency posted:There is a difference between spilling secrets and completely loving up the ability to work with foreign contacts under the table for sweet sweet intel that actually helps protect this country. Oh no doubt but it's an entirely legal gently caress up, just wanted to emphasize that.
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May 16, 2017 08:29
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If you want to forget that we're in the worst timeline, twitch is streaming every Mr. Rogers episode ever. If everyone just listened to his lessons we wouldn't be here.
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May 16, 2017 08:46
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Laranzu posted:If you want to forget that we're in the worst timeline, twitch is streaming every Mr. Rogers episode ever. Twitch also does a Bob Ross Joy of Painting marathon from time to time. Twitch does good things sometimes, their community is garbage but its hilarious watching 5000 people type "Beat the devil outta it" when Bob goes HAM on a brush after dipping it in paint thinner.
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May 16, 2017 08:49
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orange juche posted:Twitch also does a Bob Ross Joy of Painting marathon from time to time. Twitch does good things sometimes, their community is garbage but its hilarious watching 5000 people type "Beat the devil outta it" when Bob goes HAM on a brush after dipping it in paint thinner. Somehow Rogers (and possibly an iron fist of moderation) thinned out the normal twitch cesspool. For that alone, I tossed some cash to the Detroit PBS cuz they need it more than NY.
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May 16, 2017 08:52
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Laranzu posted:Somehow Rogers (and possibly an iron fist of moderation) thinned out the normal twitch cesspool. Theyre not as raucous during PBS stuff like bob ross or mr rogers marathons, its kind of weird what calms the twitch beast.
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May 16, 2017 09:00
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orange juche posted:Twitch also does a Bob Ross Joy of Painting marathon from time to time. Twitch does good things sometimes, their community is garbage but its hilarious watching 5000 people type "Beat the devil outta it" when Bob goes HAM on a brush after dipping it in paint thinner. The Twitch stream is also responsible for the most recent update of SMITE, Happy Trees!  massive size here if you want it.
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May 16, 2017 09:12
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how does washington post know trump leaked to the russians?
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May 16, 2017 09:59
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Reverand maynard posted:how does washington post know trump leaked to the russians? Maybe the Russians leaked it to WaPO just to troll Trump  .
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May 16, 2017 10:00
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Reverand maynard posted:how does washington post know trump leaked to the russians? since we live in the worst timeline, Trump could have seriously gotten out of that meeting and exclaimed "do you believe they weren't impressed until I told them [blah]?!" to a room full of  staffers.
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May 16, 2017 10:10
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Missionary Positron posted:Maybe the Russians leaked it to WaPO just to troll Trump I mean, there are only a handful of options on how what was said between Trump and the foreign minister and ambassador was made public. The russians told themselves told wapo, after the meeting trump bragged about how he impressed the russians to his staff who told wapo, trump is recording everything in the oval office and whoever operates the recording devices leaked it, or something else loving insane. Wasn't it just trump and the two russians in the meeting? Alright, I'm gonna take a trip into batshit insane territory right now. The russians found out through Flynn or some other source the details of the intel being shared on isis. During the meeting trump doesn't even talk about isis BUT afterwards the russians leak something true to wapo (details about an intel source in ISIS) but lie about how they found out blaming it all on Trump. This results in everyone believing wapo's story and sowing even more chaos in our IC, or the story is proven false undermining the credibility of our news.
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May 16, 2017 10:18
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That's not really batshit insane territory. I'm just going with my version of events because yes, he IS that stupid. At this point who knows what the Russians are capable of w/r/t blackmail.
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May 16, 2017 10:22
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Reverand maynard posted:how does washington post know trump leaked to the russians? The impression that I got was right after the meeting they realized that Trump verbally poo poo out our non disclosure intel so they had to notify the CIA and NSA, then scrub all the internal memos of important details. It wasn't that someone inside the meeting leaked the details, it was someone involved in trying to cover up and do damage control. Apparently WaPo has all the details on exactly what was said, down to the actual intel that was spilled. It is so accurate and detailed that they called people in the IC/White house to find out what they needed to cut out so they didn't get our intel source killed. WaPo: more responsible with national security than the president.
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May 16, 2017 10:35
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I'm trying to imagine the life of the most hardcore undercover agent, a true master of obfuscation and improvisation who struggles daily between all of the constructed personalities and intricate web of lies he's developed to blend in seamlessly. A tragically romantic figure with no real home, who lives with the noble fatalism that he is in the end, fallible, and will one day be caught and killed, unmourned and unloved, ten thousand miles from a country he swore to protect. His sole solace is the treasured knowledge that his life and death had purpose, and that he will have met his end in defense of others. Then the ISIS headsman takes the bag off his head and presses an ipad into his bound hands with that Washington Post article on it. Der Luftwaffle fucked around with this message at 11:38 on May 16, 2017 |
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May 16, 2017 11:34
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/864436162567471104 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/864438529472049152 Yes, I realize he's legally allowed to do this. Also,  if anyone actually buys this.
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May 16, 2017 12:05
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redneck nazgul posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/864436162567471104 https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/864437368035606529 
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May 16, 2017 12:09
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Supporters will absolutely buy that and turn it back around on those heartless un humane liberals
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May 16, 2017 12:16
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So once again Trump basically contradicted all of the damage control his communications office did.
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May 16, 2017 12:20
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Was the Russian camera crew there when he decided to share this?
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May 16, 2017 12:22
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Unlike Spicer, I'm already looking forward today's press briefing 
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May 16, 2017 12:26
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Well, Donnie just threw all his national security people under the bus by confirming that story, which also means that Tillerson, Dina Powell, and McMaster all lied or covered poo poo up. Only Mattis has a shred of belivability left. Everything Donnie touches dies. Edit: recap https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/864448127813783552 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 12:52 on May 16, 2017 |
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May 16, 2017 12:48
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facialimpediment posted:Well, Donnie just threw all his national security people under the bus by confirming that story, which also means that Tillerson, Dina Powell, and McMaster all lied or covered poo poo up. Only Mattis has a shred of belivability left. You left someone off that list. https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/864441736147476480
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May 16, 2017 12:53
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Hey Russia why don't you clean up our mess. K THX
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May 16, 2017 12:58
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..... and he's watching Fox and Friends https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/864453777054732289
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May 16, 2017 13:15
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The NATO article is incredibly worrying in light of these events.quote:NATO is scrambling to tailor its upcoming meeting to avoid taxing President Donald Trump’s notoriously short attention span. The alliance is telling heads of state to limit talks to two to four minutes at a time during the discussion, several sources inside NATO and former senior U.S. officials tell Foreign Policy. And the alliance scrapped plans to publish the traditional full post-meeting statement meant to crystallize NATO’s latest strategic stance Literally our foreign leader is too loving dumb to allow NATO to push out a new roadmap...in light of Russian aggression and their renewed efforts to establish and expand (god forgive me for the term) their "sphere of influence". quote:“It’s kind of ridiculous how they are preparing to deal with Trump,” said one source briefed extensively on the meeting’s preparations. “It’s like they’re preparing to deal with a child — someone with a short attention span and mood who has no knowledge of NATO, no interest in in-depth policy issues, nothing,” said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “They’re freaking out.” President of the United States guys, President of the United loving States. the world is calling our leader a retarded child. quote:Another change: NATO traditionally publishes a formal readout, known as a declaration, after each major meeting or summit. While they’re often lathered in diplomatic drivel, declarations signal new strategies and key policy shifts that come out of closed-door meetings, giving direction to allies and the NATO bureaucracy — and showcasing alliance unity toward rivals like Russia, a former senior NATO official told FP. mmmm i love our rudderless foreign policy....what has trump actually done? quote:Experts say a declaration could be invaluable to European allies still struggling to get a read on Trump’s stance on Europe. Four months into office, Trump hasn’t clarified U.S. policy toward Europe — he cheered Brexit and appeared to endorse anti-Europe candidate Marine Le Pen in the recent French elections — let alone toward NATO. He's also left um like alllll the executive appointees to umm...everything unfilled. http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/15/nato-frantically-tries-to-trump-proof-presidents-first-visit-alliance-europe-brussels/
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facialimpediment posted:..... and he's watching Fox and Friends Im torn between nihilism and genuine concern. I want him to spark off a bullshit internal witch hunt in the IC that forces them to get out their knives, but holy poo poo security apparati turning against civilian leadership is a real loving slippery slope man
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May 16, 2017 13:50
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/864452996129853444 But Comey is already fired though
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mlmp08 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/864452996129853444 Been over fifty minutes since that tweet. I guarantee you someone is dead over that phone.
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