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chutche2 posted:I mean if these are mass produced clones... Are they though? Can only Mars produce them or is this technology now given out to the chapters for them to start making their own? Can you Primaris upgrade a standard Astartes? Some of the writing even seemed to indicate that some of them have been in stasis for 10,000 years, and that this isn't necessarily "new" technology so much as stuff that had been in the pipeline under Guilliman's more secular approach back in the day. So who knows if they don't go backwards with it and stick top secret proto-primaris marines in 30k or some poo poo.
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Are my nids worth a gently caress, or should I sell and invest in bigmarines?
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Kilo147 posted:Are my nids worth a gently caress, or should I sell and invest in bigmarines? Who knows.
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Texmo posted:GW not supporting smallmarines any longer would mean not making any new casts of their literally hundreds of existing space marine kits, and I don't think it's very likely they'd just decide to throw out a huge investment like that for funsies. Dude did you not see what they did with the fantasy setting? They absolutely have no problem squatting a whole line if they think can resell a whole new army of mega popular models. It's just business.
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May 16, 2017 06:45
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Xarbala posted:Super Contemptors Contemptor Primaris 
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Texmo posted:I guess it's because the rules and the fluff and everything from official sources all indicates that Bigmars are an addition to the existing space marine line and not some sort soft-reboot like seems to be the common assumption, including the fact that it's been outright stated that this is the case. That has nothing to do with what we were talking about. I know all of this. That's irrelevant. He was bitching the GW store doesn't have links for sections for bigmarines, as though they were their own faction. They're not their own faction. They're new units for existing factions. I really don't understand why this is so hard to understand. There's not a faction for Centurions. Centurions are a new unit different from Tacticals who are part of Space Marines. Same as bigmarines. Get it? Centurions didn't replace tacticals. But Centurions are not a faction. Bigmarines are not replacing tacticals, but they are not a new faction. They're new choices for existing factions. I think you just completely skipped the context for my post  which is kinda important.The way he's making it sound they're completely different allied factions to Space Marines, and you can take bigmarines OR old marines but not both. That's not the case. You can mix them freely, because they're different units that are part of the same exact faction. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 06:59 on May 16, 2017 |
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Its interesting because they both are and aren't. Like, yeah, on one hand Bigmarines are a new independent unit that isn't the exact same as a Tactical. On the other hand, they have the Tactical arrow insignia on their shoulders, are claimed to have enough unit range to form their own army if desired, and in fluff are apparently filling entire legions. Hell, the fact that there are vehicles and special units specific to them, including Dreadnoughts (which really don't seem dependent on Marine size) alone makes them more of an independent range than Centurions were. That said, Primaris is explicitly not a faction keyword, instead being a unit keyword like Drone or Psyker. So they aren't a non-Space Marine faction. They might slowly replace the Space Marine range, but in fluff they're solidly under the same banner.
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LingcodKilla posted:Dude did you not see what they did with the fantasy setting? The only lines they removed fully were tomb kings and Brettonians, the worst selling of the lines. Making Stormcast was simply their way to make fantasy space marines, but they didn't squat a line to do so. Very few of the order kits were removed aside from the redundant ones.
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Black_Nexus posted:Making Stormcast was simply their way to make fantasy space marines, but they didn't squat a line to do so. You mean apart from the Brettonians
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About 10,000 posts behind and a couple years out of the loop. I just saw the thread title and checked the GW website. The new edition FAQ seems promising. Did someone take the GW execs' families hostage and force them to be more straightforward with the community? Is GW better now or does everything still turn to poopy ash when they touch it? edit: I missed all y'all (formerly ghetto wormhole here)
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I was just speculating about them having their own faction section in the store and also kind of using that example to (poorly) illustrate the point I was making about them being sold alongside standard marines and being a third Troops(and probably elites/fast/heavy later on, i'd wager there's half a five-plasma-gunner squad pictured in one of those leaks) choice for space marine armies. Turns out making Crappy Analogies on the internet doesn't really help to get your point across. Who knew? NTRabbit posted:You mean apart from the Brettonians They didn't squat them, they just turned them into demented flesh-eating ghouls which is honestly way cooler than a bunch of dudes riding around on horses dressed up like christmas trees and wearing trash cans on their heads. Totally not the same as squatting them at all, no way.
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my kinda ape posted:About 10,000 posts behind and a couple years out of the loop. I just saw the thread title and checked the GW website. The new edition FAQ seems promising. Did someone take the GW execs' families hostage and force them to be more straightforward with the community? GW is good again. They still have some sculptors who are a bit ropey, but they've got some who have been knocking it out the park on Genestealer Cults, Thousand Sons, and the upcoming Death Guard. Their new fantasy range has started turning up some good sculpts too for Ironjaws Orks and the upcoming Skeleton range. Their most recent debacle was the Shadow Wars:Armageddon (think Necromunda but with normal 40K armies), which was massively popular and sold out in 30 minutes of going on sale, despite it being heavily promoted by GW in stores and in White Dwarf and no indication that it would be a limited run boxed game (they've not done that for a while). They did release the rule book eventually, but there was a whole week or so of no communication. The terrain is amazing though. 8th edition looks interesting, but the usual caveats apply - play with friends and try to avoid playing just pick up games.
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Texmo posted:They didn't squat them, they just turned them into demented flesh-eating ghouls which is honestly way cooler than a bunch of dudes riding around on horses dressed up like christmas trees and wearing trash cans on their heads. Totally not the same as squatting them at all, no way.  
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Bretonnians were loving radical and if I ever felt compelled to play fantasy I would have played them. Questing knights and Arthurian dudes jousting against cannons, giants and magical rats. A lot of their models are old garbage which is what held me back.
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Black_Nexus posted:The only lines they removed fully were tomb kings and Brettonians, the worst selling of the lines. So what's so mysterious about them making a new and improved version of their best selling army? Nobody is going to buy regular marines now because they know new bad rear end models are right around the corner. Hell even I want to buy the latest greatest and shelf my piddly little tiny marines and I got a full loving company painted up.
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my kinda ape posted:About 10,000 posts behind and a couple years out of the loop. I just saw the thread title and checked the GW website. The new edition FAQ seems promising. Did someone take the GW execs' families hostage and force them to be more straightforward with the community? Kirby stepped down as CEO and a number of other people in the management structure got replaced, and now it seems like GW is actually actively trying to be not bad, which is a departure for them. The biggest thing I've noticed is the guy who was running the Black Library web presence is now running all of GW's social media, and they're actually acting like a company circa 2015 instead of 1995 as regards communication.
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LingcodKilla posted:So what's so mysterious about them making a new and improved version of their best selling army? I'd sell your marines now to take advantage of people that haven't caught on that the current space marines are done.
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LingcodKilla posted:So what's so mysterious about them making a new and improved version of their best selling army? I think the point is that if GW is going to get rid of and replace like 1/3 of all the models in the 40k range then it's going to happen over the course of some years, rather than just disappearing them as with Bretonnia and Tomb Kings.
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You gotta sell current stock but I'd be mildly surprised if we ever see a new old size marine released. Once again it seems like a sound move to slowly ease into it and mollify people instead of full force gently caress us.
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JBP posted:I'd sell your marines now to take advantage of people that haven't caught on that the current space marines are done. Current space marines aren't done until they back-port these guys to 30k
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Has anyone said "biglymars" yet
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chutche2 posted:Current space marines aren't done until they back-port these guys to 30k Haha no one plays 30k.
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I hope Chaos Marines get some new kits of Chosen with different equipment as like a parallel to the bigmarines or something along those lines. New rubrics are cool at least, and we've got some new nurgle marines coming too, very interested to see what those will be like. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 09:25 on May 16, 2017 |
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So far we have bigmarine tacs, special weapon teams, assault squads, dreadnoughts and a captain, seems pretty clear they weren't bullshiting about an army of them being a thing.
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May 16, 2017 09:41
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Xarbala posted:Super Contemptors Coming soon. The Condescensionist pattern
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Bigly marines look poo poo SW:A and Kill Team are the whole game for me now *pushes Leman Russ into bin*
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Bigmarites just accelerate my urge to do an army based on the Dornian Heresy, because Bigly Loyalist Night Lords would be A. Awesome, and B. Enrage fluffspergs.
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I'm still curious as to how absurdly high they will be priced. Having Adeptus Biglyus is clearly meant to elicit new sales, especially from spergs like me who already have some dudes but would be interested in getting more. It's a definite "new shiny" in terms of armies. Is it meant to outright replace regular marines? I don't know but it seems really unlikely. What will really determine that is whether or not GW releases new regular size marine stuff.
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I feel like we can probably deduct bigmarine pricing by observing sigmarine pricing.
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Hra Mormo posted:I feel like we can probably deduct bigmarine pricing by observing sigmarine pricing. What's the cost?
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:What's the cost? £37.50 for a squad of 10, but these are in squads of five and they're probably going to have the options for making them plasma squads etc.
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Artum posted:£37.50 for a squad of 10, but these are in squads of five and they're probably going to have the options for making them plasma squads etc. So, £37.50 for a squad of 5.
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Hremsfeld posted:So, £37.50 for a squad of 5. The pessimist in me would say £29 for a squad of five since thats how much devastators cost.
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The specialist sigmarines come in squads of 5 for £35, in a kit that can be built as 3 different things by swapping weapons. That's probably the most accurate take on what a Bigmarine Tactical Squad Kit would cost if it had a bunch of options like aforementioned plasma rifle swaps. Or it might be £25, who the gently caress knows.
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Scions are £21 with all the stuff to make them into a command squad, but they'd never go that cheap.
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I'm liking this. Sorted out 10 Plaguebearers, got another 10 to do, and some nurglings, and a big beasty, but I'd love to paint up some plastic Deathguard again.
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Artum posted:A lot of that bell motif with the new death guard. Plague bells. They were used to remind people to follow plague prevention rules - funny when you think that the Death Guard would prefer you forgot about those rules.
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Artum posted:A lot of that bell motif with the new death guard.
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