Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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a cyberpunk goose: May 21, 2007

chochmah posted:

For clarification I'm talking about C/C++ not C# etc.

Check: http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/default_initialization

Can also be found in http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3690.pdf

Edit: I verified that with the debugger and had a look at the assembly so I'm reasonably certain (VC++).

Not initializing variables in most C++ contexts is asking for pain, that is the kind of optimization you make later when troubleshooting optimization problems that you can actually notice. In the context of the original video it's apparent that their codebase is as slapdash as they come.

# ? May 16, 2017 15:40

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# ? May 31, 2024 15:54

thatguy: Feb 5, 2003

For those of you who are new here he got laughed out of the thread like three times and every time he would come back he would make progressively worse posts until he just resorted to spamming .gifs. Good times.

# ? May 16, 2017 15:42

thatguy: Feb 5, 2003

janssendalt posted:

I dreamt about it yesterday:
The PU will be out by July 2016
And it will be the best

Derek will cry
Beer will cry
AP will cry

You all will cry

The only ones happy will be Eonwe, because Bernie will win, and Kimsemus, because he will be allowed to join Goonrathi, like the prodigal son returning to its home

He made this post unironically.

# ? May 16, 2017 15:48

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

thatguy posted:

The only ones happy will be Eonwe, because Bernie will win

welp

_{bernie would have won}

# ? May 16, 2017 15:56

thatguy: Feb 5, 2003

Now don't be sad, 'cause 0 out of 8 ain't bad.

# ? May 16, 2017 15:59

Virtual Captain: Feb 20, 2017; Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.

Star Citizen: promises and reality are very far apart

# ? May 16, 2017 16:01

Berious: Nov 13, 2005

Tokamak posted:

welp

_{bernie would have won}

tru fax

# ? May 16, 2017 16:02

thatguy: Feb 5, 2003

Space Court.

# ? May 16, 2017 16:05

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

On Wednesday, Loremaker�s Guide to the Galaxy returns for it�s bi-weekly episode! Writer Adam Wieser travels to the Nemo System and shares some of the drama that took place when the system was first discovered.

:toot:

# ? May 16, 2017 16:14

fuctifino: Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/GhandiSardiner/status/864498357422706689

# ? May 16, 2017 16:17

BMan: Oct 31, 2015; KNIIIIIIFE
EEEEEYYYYE
ATTAAAACK

Reality check...! RSI's pricing model and stance on digital items is beyond awesome. I don't know of a single mmorpg dev that allows players the amount of control over their digital assets to the extent RSI does. We should feel grateful. Quit complaining noobs.

# ? May 16, 2017 16:19

MilesK: Nov 5, 2015

Colostomy Bag posted:

On Wednesday, Loremaker�s Guide to the Galaxy returns for it�s bi-weekly episode! Writer Adam Wieser travels to the Nemo System and shares some of the drama that took place when the system was first discovered.

In our next original adventure, the Naughtilus travels 40,000 leagues under the sea. Do not steal.

# ? May 16, 2017 16:22

RubberJohnny: Apr 22, 2008

Can anyone explain to me why you care when Squadron42 comes out

quote:

ASSSUMING IT WILL BE FINISHED
why do people care when?
personally, the only possible reason(s) would be impending death or imprisonment..?
Otherwise.. wtf guys?

quote:

people get mad when they order pizza and it doesnt come on time, because they are hungry and need to eat, and the food will get old and cold.
A late delivery of a project at your job means you cannot do the next step and are stalled.
the game being delivered late has literally ZERO bearing on any other aspect of your life. Unless you are going into some line of work in the next couple years where you are going to be unable to game, (or dying or going to jail) what is the difference when the game is released?

# ? May 16, 2017 16:24

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Jesus Christ, Janssendalt is getting a refund? Things have gotten really bad in Citizenland. I'm excited for the eventual killing and eating of Cymelion and the passing around of the Space Conch

# ? May 16, 2017 16:28

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

# ? May 16, 2017 16:40

Drunk Theory: Aug 20, 2016; Oven Wrangler

TheAgent posted:

Ahh, but if you can't trust CIG's customer support who can you trust?

# ? May 16, 2017 16:45

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Has Derek tweeted about OSC's unbanning yet? I want to watch /r/ds melt down

# ? May 16, 2017 16:49

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

That bug with the launcher playing audio back at the wrong sample rate is one of my favorites. Can't even get audio playback correct, and they wanted to do ASIO. Embarrassing.

The uninitialized variables, just don't do it, ever. The only excuse you have is if you're tweaking final code with a profiler, and that routine is running thousands or more times per frame, and you've definitively determined you're never going to fall into the uninitialized values ever, or that it would be an irrelevant/discardable error. It's just super bad practice.

All the getting into the weeds about details of what the C++ specification technically describes about array initialization, that's a bad route to go down as a defense for alpha code, because I've read the C++ specs cover to cover, and nobody can remember every single one of those edge case details. Stick with good preventative practices, only get into doing risky optimizations for very specific final polish.

# ? May 16, 2017 16:54

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

XK posted:

That bug with the launcher playing audio back at the wrong sample rate is one of my favorites. Can't even get audio playback correct, and they wanted to do ASIO. Embarrassing.

The uninitialized variables, just don't do it, ever. The only excuse you have is if you're tweaking final code with a profiler, and that routine is running thousands or more times per frame, and you've definitively determined you're never going to fall into the uninitialized values ever, or that it would be an irrelevant/discardable error. It's just super bad practice.

All the getting into the weeds about details of what the C++ specification technically describes about array initialization, that's a bad route to go down as a defense for alpha code, because I've read the C++ specs cover to cover, and nobody can remember every single one of those edge case details. Stick with good preventative practices, only get into doing risky optimizations for very specific final polish.

You start with optimization when making a game, don't you know

# ? May 16, 2017 16:57

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Best part of the patcher music is it was disabled for quite a while, and they just re-enabled it a couple weeks ago. :v:

# ? May 16, 2017 16:58

AutismVaccine: Feb 26, 2017; SPECIAL NEEDS
SQUAD

Berious posted:

Yeah I just quad posted pure white noise

why not go full retard and snipe the next page too? would have needed only 2 more posts

# ? May 16, 2017 17:01

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

Xaerael posted:

Ben Lesnick, Developer, has played the game start to finish and unlocked all the sex scenes.

Unless all those scenes take place in the ship's cafeteria, I doubt he would bother.

# ? May 16, 2017 17:05

Mangoose: Dec 11, 2007; Come out with your pants down!

Daztek posted:

You start with optimization when making a game, don't you know

Pff... optimization isn't even in the pipeline. You obviously don't understand dream development

# ? May 16, 2017 17:05

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

MeLKoR posted:

CIG has $150 million, maybe they should hire someone to direct their marketing so they wouldn't be dependent on advice from their customers on how run their business.

Or Sandi, the VP of Marketing, could take an evening class on marketing. Then she can be Dir of Marketing, and get a pay raise. :grin:

# ? May 16, 2017 17:05

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Hello janssendalt I know you're reading this

I'm happy to hear you came to your senses and that your final drop fell before the bank run

o7

hahha.

Janssendalt, we told you, you idiot.

AP fucked around with this message at 17:22 on May 16, 2017

# ? May 16, 2017 17:05

Berious: Nov 13, 2005

AutismVaccine posted:

why not go full retard and snipe the next page too? would have needed only 2 more posts

cba to find a cat pic

# ? May 16, 2017 17:06

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Ben Lesnick, Chris Roberts Historian can also be found in the Wing Commander Archives located on Nemo.

# ? May 16, 2017 17:06

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Beet Wagon posted:

Has Derek tweeted about OSC's unbanning yet? I want to watch /r/ds melt down

They are going to be too busy mass-reporting him again to melt down.

# ? May 16, 2017 17:08

Fatkraken: Jun 23, 2005; Fun-time is over.

Bofast posted:

Unless all those scenes take place in the ship's cafeteria, I doubt he would bother.

As far as we can tell, ALL scenes take place in the ship's cafeteria

# ? May 16, 2017 17:08

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Fatkraken posted:

As far as we can tell, ALL scenes take place in the ship's cafeteria

Mission 3-A:

Main objective) Bring some coffee to the old man.
Sub objective) 2 sugars, no cream.

# ? May 16, 2017 17:19

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

# ? May 16, 2017 17:20

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

Dementropy posted:
Update:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&userid=214917

He should stay in. It will make it all the more hilarious after the collapse.

# ? May 16, 2017 17:21

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

XK posted:

That bug with the launcher playing audio back at the wrong sample rate is one of my favorites. Can't even get audio playback correct, and they wanted to do ASIO. Embarrassing.

The uninitialized variables, just don't do it, ever. The only excuse you have is if you're tweaking final code with a profiler, and that routine is running thousands or more times per frame, and you've definitively determined you're never going to fall into the uninitialized values ever, or that it would be an irrelevant/discardable error. It's just super bad practice.

All the getting into the weeds about details of what the C++ specification technically describes about array initialization, that's a bad route to go down as a defense for alpha code, because I've read the C++ specs cover to cover, and nobody can remember every single one of those edge case details. Stick with good preventative practices, only get into doing risky optimizations for very specific final polish.

It makes a lot of sense actually. They have audio bugs, try to pin them down, and someone that knows his stuff jokes about how it 'can't be easily fixed, like, unless you wanna code your own audio driver'. Unfortunately, Chris happened to be in the room

# ? May 16, 2017 17:22

SelenicMartian: Sep 14, 2013; Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Fatkraken posted:

As far as we can tell, ALL scenes take place in the ship's cafeteria

All those group AI videos are for characters finding their way around in SQ42 orgies, and the box stacking tech is for sex toy crates.

# ? May 16, 2017 17:25

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Beet Wagon posted:

Has Derek tweeted about OSC's unbanning yet? I want to watch /r/ds melt down

Nope. Just catching up. He says that he was banned after being mass reported as a spammer. Gee, I wonder which upstanding Shitizens would do such a thing

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/6aek0o/video_game_raised_148_million_from_fans_now_its/dhmjfmf/

quote:

I got several messages before I even saw the message from the Reddit admin. You guys are great! I don't know how you all knew the ban was lifted, but thanks anyway. The mods of the Reddit still haven't responded to my message.

My post was mass reported for spam by those guys. Obviously the same guys who were celebrating that I was shadowbanned by Reddit because they had "evidence" (they have no concept of this word, as we have now come to find) that I was Dr Smart's alt, that they traced my IP and all those lies they have been telling over on their harassment Reddit.

So I have decided to start writing a new "July blog".

ps: ps: part of the message from the Reddit admin:

|Hi there. It looks like your account was banned in a sweep for spam. I removed the ban, sorry for the trouble!

# ? May 16, 2017 17:27

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Oh no.

A new Star Citizen blog writer.

# ? May 16, 2017 17:29

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

XK posted:

Oh no.

A new Star Citizen blog writer.

That's ok, it's like the Sith. Only two. So when a third comes on then there are problems.

# ? May 16, 2017 17:33

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

AP posted:

hahha.

Janssendalt, we told you, you idiot.

The funniest thing is he got out before MoMA :allears:

# ? May 16, 2017 17:34

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

trucutru posted:

Mission 3-A:

Main objective) Bring some coffee to the old man.
Sub objective) 2 sugars, no cream.

Failing objective 1 means a negative score on your promotion progress bar.
Failing objective 2 means getting tossed out the airlock.

You do not mess up an old (wo)man's coffee order.

Obviously, since death doesn't matter in the game, the sub-objective isn't all that critical to complete compared to losing out on an arbitrary character score.

# ? May 16, 2017 17:35

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# ? May 31, 2024 15:54

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

I wonder how MoMA's refactored his last drop scenario? It used to be something like 3.0 released "by summer" and SQ42 this year?

It seems he'll be right that refunds haven't run dry yet at least, that must be immensely comforting

# ? May 16, 2017 17:36

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