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Mirthless posted:sounds like a pretty loving dumb reason to incur five digits of personal debt to me on average you're going to more than make up for that five figures of debt over your lifetime earnings. my wife's masters degree is going to pay for itself in a couple of years
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Solarin posted:I've always wondered how useful knowledge of logic in the philosophy domain translates to math and CS? it's absolutely a bedrock but folded into the languages tight enough you don't notice I engineer almost exclusively via the Socratic method
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triple sulk posted:so did trump singlehandedly ruin the us's relationship with israel in a day lol you think it will matter, israel can't do poo poo hahahah 
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Fidel Castronaut posted:i mean, in large part, a degree is a class badge that tells people, regardless of major, that "i am a person who is in the middle class" so you can enter into middle class spaces freely and middle class people will be comfortable with you because you can say "oh, i did my undergrad at ____" at some boring dinner party. and, in fact, humanities degrees trend from wealthier families because they know they are going to have a job no matter what so they don't have to find a major that maps to a specific vocation. there's also the flip side that rurals will never ever trust you if they learn you have an education like the left-wing outreach specifically says "don't mention your degrees at any point"
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Homeless Friend posted:lol you think it will matter, israel can't do poo poo hahahah they can do more than trump can
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fits my needs posted:aren't you still in college? lol lol explains why he's so cagey about being told college degrees are largely pointless in this day and age "my... my debt's not an albatross!  it's not!"
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Mirthless posted:sounds like a pretty loving dumb reason to incur five digits of personal debt to me Average student loan debt for graduates is $30,000. I've run that through an amortization calculator and if you're paying current interest rates and pay for twenty years, you end up paying like $50k. You earn far more than $50k in comparison to the ~$30k/year median for a person without a degree. Median for an English major is like $45k or around that.
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College chat on SA is always fun because it assumes that the only degrees that exist are CS and underwater basket weaving or something.
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It's pretty rad that a sitting senator from the MORAL MAJORITY party can have a rotting boil of a man who runs a Casino racket for a living rolled into his office to give him marching orders and at no point will that senator ever have a "are we the baddies?" moment.
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Yinlock posted:there's also the flip side that rurals will never ever trust you if they learn you have an education which is why we need to glass flyover country
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Yinlock posted:they can do more than trump can lol tell this to trump, if you dare
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Many rural people much like the urban working classes do not like people who aren't smarter than them acting like/telling them they're smarter than them because they have a degree imo.
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Baloogan posted:ahem That's a very good point.
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fits my needs posted:aren't you still in college? lol I finished my master's degree this semester.
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he's an independent who cares
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lol I forgot about the lead in to the yes yes video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0j0lO7uQBo like it's 30 seconds watch it now
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Yinlock posted:he's an independent who cares that's why people liked him
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jBrereton posted:Many rural people much like the urban working classes do not like people who aren't smarter than them acting like/telling them they're smarter than them because they have a degree imo. that's because many rural people voted for Trump and were shocked when he tried to take away their healthcare so they're clearly too dumb to remember to breathe
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Fidel Castronaut posted:Average student loan debt for graduates is $30,000. I've run that through an amortization calculator and if you're paying current interest rates and pay for twenty years, you end up paying like $50k. If you're smart enough to finish college you're smart enough to move up the corporate ladder without a degree I earn 50k/yr right now and I've never spent a dime on student loans Universities are daycare for most 18-22 y/os at this point
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Yinlock posted:he's an independent who cares twitter democrats care, they care a whole lot
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Yinlock posted:he's an independent who cares He has some sort of "party unity" leadership role or some poo poo, which is part of the reason why his hesitation on backing Ossof was really lovely.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:doesnt he hate trump? Surprisingly, the casino billionaire eventually came around to Donald J. Trump
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Baloogan posted:your audience would mostly be guys too chicken to go to a strip club this is all i can think of now 
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Mirthless posted:If you're smart enough to finish college you're smart enough to move up the corporate ladder without a degree What if you want to do something that matters
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Mirthless posted:If you're smart enough to finish college you're smart enough to move up the corporate ladder without a degree brugroffil posted:on average you're going to more than make up for that five figures of debt over your lifetime earnings.
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Mirthless posted:lol explains why he's so cagey about being told college degrees are largely pointless in this day and age I'm cagey about it because I taught first year college students in Detroit and they were told that if it wasn't engineering or nursing or some vocational degree, then it's useless. So, when they struggled with science or math, they thought college was pointless for them. The only way they are getting out of Detroit is with a college degree and a humanities degree would get them a job. That's why I'm cagey, prick.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:It's pretty rad that a sitting senator from the MORAL MAJORITY party can have a rotting boil of a man who runs a Casino racket for a living rolled into his office to give him marching orders and at no point will that senator ever have a "are we the baddies?" moment. Dude has the asian mafia balls deep in his crippled, flabby white rear end and he gets to lord of the republicans. 
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So are you one of the rich kids that get masters degrees in English who skew the median?
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Solarin posted:I've always wondered how useful knowledge of logic in the philosophy domain translates to math and CS? Not a ton directly. I took a CS Discrete Mathematics course and a philosophy Symbolic Logic course that were both basically just "if p then q" stuff, but that was about it for explicit overlap. Some of the epistemological stuff about the nature of knowledge can help you conceptually, especially if you do shade into theory or want to do human interaction studies - understanding the debate around Knowledge vs. True, Justified Belief helps. A lot of it is just good horizon-expanding stuff that keeps you from thinking of the world exclusively in terms of software engineering in ways that are hard to directly correlate to resume-building skills, you need to learn how to argue with someone without being an rear end in a top hat and write something persuasive another human being might actually want to read. People are right when they say if you want a programming job then a University degree isn't the most direct route, but if you are going to University you should get something out of it you wouldn't have gotten from a short professional program.
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Mirthless posted:If you're smart enough to finish college you're smart enough to move up the corporate ladder without a degree ..but when do you start climbing the corporate ladder and make real money?
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jBrereton posted:Many rural people much like the urban working classes do not like people who aren't smarter than them acting like/telling them they're smarter than them because they have a degree imo. no rurals just hate education in general
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Mirthless posted:If you're smart enough to finish college you're smart enough to move up the corporate ladder without a degree When your name tags you as African-American, it helps to have a degree on your resume. gently caress off.
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Nichael posted:but his wife's emails remember whenever someone pointed out how terrible bill was, people screamed sexism because you can't judge by their spouse's actions?
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Fidel Castronaut posted:https://twitter.com/NadavPollak/status/864542892207034368 Trump radicalizes every thing he touches lol
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Agronox posted:this thread is unpleasant today we had a discussion earlier on Animes That are Actually Good
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Mirthless posted:lol explains why he's so cagey about being told college degrees are largely pointless in this day and age "things worked out okay for me so why wouldn't they work out for everyone else ever"
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Chokes McGee posted:it's absolutely a bedrock but folded into the languages tight enough you don't notice I took an ethics class and that got me into Bertrand Russel and Karl Popper so I tried picking up one of their logic oriented books and it was brutally unreadable. I want to take a logic class at some point though because conceptually these books seem super interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principia_Mathematica https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Logic_of_Scientific_Discovery
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