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Dienes posted:He posted that as a reply to...his own post. Does he count as someone? This is so weird but so Rothfuss.
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Tree Dude posted:I've only ever seen one good airport bookstore. It's in Milwaukee and still operating. I'm a flight attendant so I have a pretty good sample size. The Powell's in the Portland Airport is great.
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May 15, 2017 04:02
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Don't forget he rewrote a Roald Dahl children's story because he wasn't satisfied with its narrative hook and character development.
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May 15, 2017 09:27
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What's the best way to read through the "let's read kingkiller critically" posts from this thread? Are they collected somewhere or should I just go back and find the first one and click through the thread? I skimmed past most of them originally...
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May 15, 2017 16:12
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There's a collection of links in this post: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3365216&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=122#post458895404
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May 15, 2017 16:24
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Tamba posted:There's a collection of links in this post: 
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May 15, 2017 16:37
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Still think the thread should be called Patrick Rothfuss: Go Read Baudolino
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May 15, 2017 20:36
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I've never read these books despite having friends who seemed to really like them but I've read the last 20 pages of this thread and really enjoyed it so I'm totally going to go back and read BravestOfTheLamps's Let's Read.
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May 15, 2017 22:15
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To be fair that is probably the single best way to experience NOTW.
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A lot of the fun of "Let's Read Critically" for me was going "What? That didn't happen, did it?" or "That can't possibly be how he phrased that.", and then going back to realize that it was all true. I forgot entire swaths of that book, and genuinely skipped over most of the Amyr and Tablorin stuff because it was almost jaw-droppingly boring. Having that stuff summarized for me was a big help.
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SpacePig posted:A lot of the fun of "Let's Read Critically" for me was going "What? That didn't happen, did it?" or "That can't possibly be how he phrased that.", and then going back to realize that it was all true. I forgot entire swaths of that book, and genuinely skipped over most of the Amyr and Tablorin stuff because it was almost jaw-droppingly boring. Having that stuff summarized for me was a big help. For me it was more putting aside my "this was fun to read and therefore above criticism" and being able to actually see the deep flaws that I originally ignored in favour of the abundant fluff. I still consider the book an entertaining "I am shutting the critical part of my brain off" read, I just know that that's all it is now. Also I swear to christ I must be the only person who didn't hate the Felurian/Amyr stuff that much. I look forward to rereading soonish so that I can realize the error of my ways, but in the broad strokes I remember, aside from a couple dumb bits (man-mothers, sex-dar), they really weren't as awful as all that. I attribute this to the same phenomenon that goons have regarding unhealthy food, that being the "I ate a mcdonalds burger and immediately became violently ill and got cancer and also diabetes" trope.
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ChickenWing posted:For me it was more putting aside my "this was fun to read and therefore above criticism" and being able to actually see the deep flaws that I originally ignored in favour of the abundant fluff. I still consider the book an entertaining "I am shutting the critical part of my brain off" read, I just know that that's all it is now. I think the problem is that very few people are see Kingkiller as a schlocky fantasy and I can forgive its flaws. Jim Butcher gets a huge pass on the lovely stuff about Dresden because of the oh its just a popcorn series etc. Kingkiller is put on a pedestal - not just by Rothfuss - but by the industry at large as a consensus best modern fantasy book. It has enormous critical acclaim. So its fair game for pretty involved criticism.
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ChickenWing posted:For me it was more putting aside my "this was fun to read and therefore above criticism" and being able to actually see the deep flaws that I originally ignored in favour of the abundant fluff. I still consider the book an entertaining "I am shutting the critical part of my brain off" read, I just know that that's all it is now. NOTW was fun to read for me, WMF not nearly as much, but I kind of had genre blindness to all the flaws because the only stuff I really remembered was some of the more elaborate uses of language that I wasn't expecting from a fantasy book. I was pretty positive about the book when I started posting in this thread but the critical re-examination led me to understand more about what was and was not a valid problem with the books, especially how poorly written the female characters are. I had kind of blocked the part where Kvothe saves the rape victims from the fake gypsies and then has sex with them shortly after, but that was especially hosed up. Having Rothfuss himself turn out to be such a massive tool has been a trip too.
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I was gonna post about how thinking retroactively on WMF was what cause me to hate it, or maybe having to slog through it on a reread or something. I thought I had a higher opinion of it back when it first came out, but I guess I really didn't like it much at all from the get-go.SpacePig posted:I don't read very often, but something about The Name of the Wind just roped me in. I really fell in love with the book once Kvothe started telling his story. While I'm certain;y not a connoisseur of books by any means, I felt that it was a story well told, and it kept me interested through the entire thing. I stayed up almost entire nights telling myself "just one more chapter". I felt It honestly got me reading again for a little while. This is still pretty much the way I feel. There's a special place in my heart for NotW, because it got me back into reading for fun, even if I did skip probably a 3rd of the book in total. WMF was such a wet fart that I basically stopped reading fantasy until some folks in this thread recommended me some poo poo some 5 years later.
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Errr, I don't have a book to check against. Did Kvothe actually have sex with the not-not-gypsy rape victims? I remember him creeping on them.
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PJOmega posted:Errr, I don't have a book to check against. Did Kvothe actually have sex with the not-not-gypsy rape victims? I remember him creeping on them. He doesn't actually have sex with them. He just thinks about how sexy they are while he caresses their cheeks while they struggle to resist. Nothing rapey there.
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I don't think he actually has sex with them, but I'm pretty sure he feels them up. I think first as a ruse to get the trust of the kidnappers, then for himself, but he feels bad about it or something. e: Dang, had this window open for awhile. But there you go. LoB tends to know what's up with these books in lieu of BotL. SpacePig fucked around with this message at 22:26 on May 16, 2017 |
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SpacePig posted:I don't think he actually has sex with them, but I'm pretty sure he feels them up. I think first as a ruse to get the trust of the kidnappers, then for himself, but he feels bad about it or something. He doesn't feel bad about it.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:He doesn't feel bad about it. He never feels bad about anything he does, just about getting caught.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:He doesn't feel bad about it. Page 860 posted:By this time the girls were sitting on either side of me, facing the fire. Closer, I saw things I had missed before. There was a dark bruise on the back of Krin’s neck. The blond girl’s wrists were merely chafed from being tied, but Krin’s were raw and scabbed. For all that, they smelled clean. Their hair was brushed and their clothes had been washed recently. Kete had been tending to them. Page 863 posted:In fifteen minutes she was asleep. I covered the two of them with a blanket and watched their faces. In sleep they were even more beautiful than before. I reached out to brush a strand of hair from Krin’s cheek. To my surprise, she opened her eyes and stared at me. Not the marble stare she had given me before, she looked at me with the dark eyes of a young Denna.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:He doesn't actually have sex with them. He just thinks about how sexy they are while he caresses their cheeks while they struggle to resist. Nothing rapey there. Oh I agree it's rapey creepville. Simply wanted to check if my brain had a misfire.
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I couldn't even finish Name of the Wind because of how unbearably boring it was.
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Oh hey look what was posted today:
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Atlas Hugged posted:Oh hey look what was posted today: I'd also say there's a big difference between an epic fantasy story collapsing under the weight of all it's characters and extraneous plots, and being unable to finish a book because your writing style is too goddamn *twinkles* special *twinkles*
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There is an importance common problem though: neither author is actually sitting down to write the stuff. Procrastination is truly the root of great evil.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Oh hey look what was posted today: Shamefully, a recommendation from PA was what initially got me to read NotW, and I think they're pretty close to him personally these days. This is basically a friendly ribbing.
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SpacePig posted:Shamefully, a recommendation from PA was what initially got me to read NotW, and I think they're pretty close to him personally these days. This is basically a friendly ribbing. They play D&D with him on a regular basis. They're bros. Let Tycho finish the trilogy. He's got that overly verbose pseudo-nonsense prose thing nailed down.
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HIJK posted:There is an importance common problem though: neither author is actually sitting down to write the stuff. GRRM has actually posted preview chapters, so he has one over Rothfuss in that he's written something.
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SpacePig posted:Shamefully, a recommendation from PA was what initially got me to read NotW, and I think they're pretty close to him personally these days. This is basically a friendly ribbing. Yeah. He goes to PAX and plays D&D with them every chance he gets. I also heard about NOTW from those guys. efb
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Ornamented Death posted:GRRM has actually posted preview chapters, so he has one over Rothfuss in that he's written something. Rothfuss leaked that one page himself by accident (and then got super mad that people shared it), so we know Rothfuss has written SOMETHING. Its just one page that said basically nothing at all.
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Pash posted:Rothfuss leaked that one page himself by accident (and then got super mad that people shared it), so we know Rothfuss has written SOMETHING. Its just one page that said basically nothing at all. But it was a nothing in three parts. The first was the nothingness of empty, meaningless words. The second was the echoing nothingness of the blank volumes locked behind the poorly inked words. And the third nothingness was the most fatal of all, the sound of an writer refusing to write.
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PJOmega posted:But it was a nothing in three parts. The first was the nothingness of empty, meaningless words. The second was the echoing nothingness of the blank volumes locked behind the poorly inked words. And the third nothingness was the most fatal of all, the sound of an writer refusing to write.  But seriously where's my loving last book. Rothfuss! Where is it?
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The only interesting thing in the Rothfuss screens hot was the page count.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:He doesn't actually have sex with them. He just thinks about how sexy they are while he caresses their cheeks while they struggle to resist. Nothing rapey there. Patrick Rothfuss the feminist, ladies and gentlemen. Ornamented Death posted:GRRM has actually posted preview chapters, so he has one over Rothfuss in that he's written something. Every preview chapter, except the Mercy one (maybe), was poo poo he wrote for ADWD but cut during editing. The number of new pages GRRM has shown since ADWD came out is in the single digits.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:avshalom was permabanned Avshalom flew too close to the sun "the sun", in this case, being "threatening the life of the POTUS in posts on this messageboard" feels weird to me that SA has had that happen more than once. Maybe I'm giving people too much credit... ...like my faint hope that Patrick Rothfuss will finish his drat book so I can satisfy my morbid curiosity about how this literary trainwreck wraps up (to get back to the topic) SatansOnion fucked around with this message at 11:12 on May 21, 2017 |
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He misspoke, it's not a trilogy it's a trilogy of trilogies. He apologizes for any confusion.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:avshalom was permabanned trash
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:avshalom was permabanned
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Avshalom posted:it is i, pedroth funk. with gunt in hand i descend the spiral staircase. she waits there at the bottom, my woman with her lantern and her tits like twin halves of apricots in syrup, her face like a wistful porcelain moon; her hair is an extravagant symphony of autumnal hues and her legs are many. i draw my wretched blade. its name is erect heretic. it is six thousand years old, forged by a sex elf from the purestrain gold excreted by the heart of a supernova, it is too heavy to lift so i have to wheel it around. my lady's diamontine eyes fixate on my erection. a dusting of a smile like the snow upon the boreal pine needles appears to brush its grace lightly across her delicate lips, HONK IF YOU'RE HORNY she says and i say HONK HONK and then i swirl into an effortless whirlwind of the blade that strikes her head from her neck and sends it flying through the open window like the lonesome albatross
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