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Mercury_Storm posted:I've been talking with an acquaintance who lives in NY who believes that there is a cabal of taxi drivers who are secretly enforcing Sharia Law upon members of the Muslim community. One of them apparently threatened him because at one point he stated interest in studying Islam, so I guess he's under the cabal's purview now. He's gone as far as to make a police report about being threatened. I can actually see this one being true (well somewhat truthful, if the taxi driving is coincidental). Muslim communities have increasing problems with hardline fraternities trying to pressure the majority to follow them. And taxi driving is usually a good entry level job for a migrant and requires a lot of informal networking so its not that surprising that a lot of conservative guys ended up in it, and then exploited it as platform with a captive audience. The British Bengali community has been plagued with allegations that its under control by community leaders whose power rests not on genuine support but on connections in Bengal and a network of small businesses in the area giving them a stranglehold on everything that goes on in their neighbourhoods.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Oh yeah, I love plotting how to sabotage road designs for fun and profit. You roadists conspire to rob us of the trains and streetcars that are our birthright. Seriously though, I don't think it's controversial to state that car culture has had deleterious effects driven more by the desires of industry and finance than the needs and wellbeing of the population.
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FecLives posted:This has been argued endlessly. The buildings were designed to withstand two 707 impacts. Building 7 collapses on its own? There are two ways that a structural member can fail:
For columns, buckling (type 2) happens at a much lower applied load than compression yielding (type 1), and the effect is exacerbated the more slender the column gets. You can increase a column's resistance to buckling by bracing it sideways with horizontal beams; the longest distance between horizontal supports is the column's "unsupported length". The buckling equation is critical load = pi^2 * material strength * geometry factor / unsupported length^2, so doubling a column's unsupported length reduces the critical load by 75%. Building 7 was built over a Con Edison substation, which severely limited the footprint of the interior columns in the tower, so they compensated by having relatively large columns carry larger floor areas. One column in particular, Column 79, carried a significant amount of the floor loads on the northwest corner of the building. When the fire started, it caused the horizontal floor trusses on the affected floors to distort and loosen from their connections to the columns. Eventually, one truss pulled away from Column 79 altogether and collapsed into the floors below it, knocking those lower floors free of the column as well. Column 79, now only a fraction as strong as before because of its much longer unsupported length, immediately buckled, dragging all the other floor trusses still connected to it downwards, which then caused a cascading series of failures that eventually brought down the rest of the interior columns. Finally, the exterior facade fell in on itself without anything holding it up any more. The Chairman fucked around with this message at 19:36 on May 11, 2017 |
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The Chairman posted:There are two ways that a structural member can fail: Your "science" doesn't mean anything because my dad's wood stove didn't collapse even though the log supports were plenty hot. Checkmate, poindexter.
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GutBomb posted:Your "science" doesn't mean anything because my dad's wood stove didn't collapse even though the log supports were plenty hot. Checkmate, poindexter. Also, iron and steel behave comparably, and all steel is chemically identical. There certainly aren't a broad range of metallurgical techniques used to produce alloys with different properties for different uses. It's so simple, you guys, ugh. 
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people finally have the truth about vaccines on facebook because of this https://www.infowars.com/study-infants-with-dtp-vaccine-5-to-10-times-more-susceptible-to-dying/ blarblarbarg
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I'm not clicking on a infowars link and shame on you for posting one instead of doing literally anything else
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QuarkJets posted:I'm not clicking on a infowars link and shame on you for posting one instead of doing literally anything else i feel bad.
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Sooo.. the researchers couldn't be sure how old their test subjects were, and concluded that the vaccine was the factor increasing death from infections, not the fact that kids were treated in rural bumfuck Guinea-bisseau? Not surprised the researcher is Danish 
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Michael Jackson posted:people finally have the truth about vaccines on facebook because of this https://www.infowars.com/study-infants-with-dtp-vaccine-5-to-10-times-more-susceptible-to-dying/ More susceptible to dying? We're all going to die someday, Alex. You know what DPT vaccinated babies won't die of? loving diphtheria.
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Leofish posted:More susceptible to dying? We're all going to die someday, Alex. ablooo blooo blooooo  -alex jones
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I liked the videos on angular ejecta. They show very clearly that debris was carrying angular momentum. Explosive demolition is the only way to account for the angular trajectory of those debris. You explanation of building 7 is laughable the chairman. None were ever in danger of collapse.
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FecLives posted:I liked the videos on angular ejecta. They show very clearly that debris was carrying angular momentum. Explosive demolition is the only way to account for the angular trajectory of those debris. You explanation of building 7 is laughable the chairman. None were ever in danger of collapse. angular momentum can easily be caused by the crushing movement of the buildings were you born with brain damage or did something traumatic happen to you? regardless, you have my sympathy as you struggle your way through life
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FecLives posted:I liked the videos on angular ejecta. They show very clearly that debris was carrying angular momentum. Explosive demolition is the only way to account for the angular trajectory of those debris. You explanation of building 7 is laughable the chairman. None were ever in danger of collapse. rick veicht is that you for those of you who aren't so deep in comics that you've read Maximortal, rick veicht is a writer/artist who did a lot of work with alan moore on swamp thing in the 80s and then kinda went off and did his own indie thing and did a whole bunch of weird books one of those was The Big Lie, a book about a time traveler going back to try to warn people about 9/11 armed with The Real Truth, the last page is a dude staring at the explosives right before he dies when they go off, it owns hard also this is the cover 
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FecLives posted:You explanation of building 7 is laughable the chairman. None were ever in danger of collapse. A dude posts a reasonable thorough overview listing multiple reasons why Building 7 collapsed and your response is NUH UH IDIOT. Gosh guys why does no one believe truthers.
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1stGear posted:A dude posts a reasonable thorough overview listing multiple reasons why Building 7 collapsed and your response is NUH UH IDIOT. Gosh guys why does no one believe truthers. substance abuse and poor life decisions, generally. the only truthers i ever knew irl were a pair of mentally ill stoners who got married out of high school. the wife was on "disability" and the husband kept getting fired and rehired from the only job he ever had at a seedy porn store. last time i met up with them they clearly hated each other and spent the whole time arguing about petty poo poo, but neither one was capable of leaving the other. i hope they rot together, they deserve each other
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Typical baboons. The idea that there are multiple ways a steel frame building can collapse is dumb. There is only one way, demolition.
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FecLives posted:Typical baboons. The idea that there are multiple ways a steel frame building can collapse is dumb. There is only one way, demolition.
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FecLives posted:Typical baboons. The idea that there are multiple ways a steel frame building can collapse is dumb. There is only one way, demolition. i'm the guy who doesn't think an airplane exploding inside of a building counts as demolition. only purestrain explosives for me, number one tom clancy expert
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The airplane did not explode, it was pulverized, the fuel igniting in a visible ball of fire that lasted a short time. The insuing fire was starved of oxygen, black smoke billowing, few fuel sources, was never hot enough to weaken the metal significantly. The color of the fire denotes its temperature.
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FecLives posted:The airplane did not explode, it was pulverized, the fuel igniting in a visible ball of fire that lasted a short time. The insuing fire was starved of oxygen, black smoke billowing, few fuel sources, was never hot enough to weaken the metal significantly. The color of the fire denotes its temperature. *ensuing, not insuing
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Each tower was made to withstand 2 707 impacts.
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My spell check wasn't working
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I like the sculpture that looks like a fly head
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FecLives posted:My spell check wasn't working too bad there's not a check for embarassing yourself with bad arguments rooted in deep, prideful ignorance. reddit would disappear overnight
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FecLives posted:Each tower was made to withstand 2 707 impacts. Yea? How did they know and/or test that?
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WampaLord posted:Yea? How did they know and/or test that? uh i thnik engnieres kno hwo to desing a bulidnig whcih acn witstand ovre two thousnd fiev hundrde impcats :rooleyes:
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FecLives posted:Typical baboons. The idea that there are multiple ways a steel frame building can collapse is dumb. There is only one way, demolition. Actually have you considered that the military used space lasers mounted on the moon? FecLives posted:Each tower was made to withstand 2 707 impacts. According to the lead structural engineer of the WTC, each tower was designed to withstand 1 impact from a 707 with the assumption that it A) couldn't see the tower due to foggy conditions and B) was looking for a landing strip (the only circumstance in which you'd have an excuse to fly that low near the WTC). In other words, the towers were designed to withstand low-speed impacts from planes with relatively little fuel, as opposed to the fully-fueled high-speed collisions that the towers actually experience. And in fact the towers did survive the initial collisions and remained standing for quite awhile. What the design did not consider was a blazing jet fuel inferno, since it was assumed that an impact would come from a low-fuel aircraft. It's clear that you actually don't know anything so I apologize in advance for the thread continuing to laugh at you QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 06:32 on May 17, 2017 |
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There aren't truthers on SA you're being trolled.
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Baronjutter posted:There aren't truthers on SA you're being trolled. I don't care 
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Baronjutter posted:There aren't truthers on SA you're being trolled. it's hard to say for sure, /pol is making a comeback
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Jet fuel won't burn hot enough without a significant oxygen source. I'm going to light my whale oil lamp.
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FecLives posted:Jet fuel won't burn hot enough without a significant oxygen source. I'm going to light my whale oil lamp. wtc7 was filled with your posts
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FecLives posted:Jet fuel won't burn hot enough without a significant oxygen source. I'm going to light my whale oil lamp. And huge holes in the sides of buildings are known for their inability to provide oxygen to building fires
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boner confessor posted:wtc7 was filled with your posts Bat poo poo can be refined into an explosive agent, so this checks out as a true science fact! As celebrated scientist Roman Reigns once said, "Believe that."
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I'm seeing this Hillary Clinton and the DNC assassinated Seth Rich conspiracy theory popping up again and it's amazing. The DNC is able to (a) plan and execute assassinations with no evidence trail pointing back to them and without anyone involved leaking it, yet (b) can't keep an email password secure.
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VitalSigns posted:I'm seeing this Hillary Clinton and the DNC assassinated Seth Rich conspiracy theory popping up again and it's amazing. Someone in another thread pointed out that if Rich really did it it would be more valuable for the DNC to have him arrested otherwise they'd just... produce this. Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 08:52 on May 17, 2017 |
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FecLives posted:You explanation of building 7 is laughable the chairman. None were ever in danger of collapse. The explanation was more for people who might have been actually curious about the collapse mechanism, not for goofballs
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VitalSigns posted:I'm seeing this Hillary Clinton and the DNC assassinated Seth Rich conspiracy theory popping up again and it's amazing. 
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VitalSigns posted:I'm seeing this Hillary Clinton and the DNC assassinated Seth Rich conspiracy theory popping up again and it's amazing.
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