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I'm gonna take a moment to talk about a TV show that explicitly doesn't ignore black people (because it's hosted by one!). I watched last week's episode of United Shades of America, all about black people in Chicago and it was a really heartbreaking look at a community that only seems to get talked about in hushed whispers and sadly shaking heads. as it turns out, when you talk to people in gangs in dangerous neighborhoods in the south side of Chicago and you ask them what should be done, they sound like normal human beings who care about their communities, families, and particularly children, instead of selfish violent monsters who get off from shooting children. And that they don't view all cops as inherently evil people, and would actually appreciate an increased police presence if that didn't bring with it a bunch of unwarranted violence against black people. He wrote a pretty great overview/editorial on CNN.com too:quote:This week, Chicago was in the news for a good reason. And that is pretty rare these days. If it's not more reports of street violence, then it's the President threatening the city with ... well, I don't really know what exactly. I'm gonna be perfectly honest, during my time living in Chicago, I spent all of my four years living on the North Side (very very north side, Rogers Park), and never found a reason to go further south than Chinatown (though I did spend some time in Waukegan, a suburb about 45 minutes to the north with it's own set of problems). I'm planning on going back to Chicago eventually because I really, deeply love living in the city, but I know that when I go back I want to do something more than just defending the city when people disparage it, which happens a lot where I live in Iowa (even in the more liberal college town I grew up in). Chicago could easily be one of the greatest cities in the world, but we need to make sure that all parts of the city have the resources they need so that the people living there can succeed. the episode also points out the super-bummer that is Jeff Sessions completely blowing off the report about how loving awful CPD is because apparently "people disparaging police officers" is a much bigger issue than "black people keep getting shot by police officers". And seriously, gently caress CPD.
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I mean, Chicago sort of already is a great global city - plenty of rankings put it up there with major global capitals. The issue is that this glosses over the fact that two huge areas of the city are basically ignored. I'm not sure there's an easy fix for that, given that municipal government is basically non-existent in those areas, they're insanely segregated, they are legitimately dangerous, and they're policed by a department whose employees were tapped as torture experts in Guantanamo. Also the city is in a huge amount of debt and is incredibly into privatizing everything. Totally agreed that people have to step up to make a change, but realistically so does the government (which I guess also requires people to act ofc). I think living there definitely disabuses you of trumps characterization, but it also ends up showing all these other really deep rooted issues. Im also a former north side resident as well, but also spent a decent amount of time on the south side for work and was involved with some community programs to improve education outcomes and public libraries there. Often these initiatives would work, but without government funding or the infrastructure around them to let people succeed it feels a bit like a drop in a leaky bucket. I guess what I'm saying is that this was sort of discouraging knowing that these programs wouldn't get the support to be done broadly even if they got great results. (Also the North side was pretty intense culture shock - it's just SO homogenous)
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May 16, 2017 12:51
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Came here to post some stuff that was brought to my attention. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/lolas-story/524490/ This article posted in The Atlantic by a Pulitzer prize-winning author (post death) has stirred up quite a bit of discussion. It was a bit of a hard read for me so do take your time with it. I'm still working through my feelings about it. Right now, I'm just so furious at the author and his family. https://twitter.com/hautepop/status/864550142451617792 Stumbled across a good thread about it which contains several linked responses to it here. Because of this thread I was introduced to this talented woman and I love her music. http://www.npr.org/2017/05/11/527911058/rhiannon-giddens-speaks-for-the-silenced I need a bit of time to process this and it might not even be my place to speak so... I may or may not be back.
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May 17, 2017 05:47
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Jenner posted:Came here to post some stuff that was brought to my attention. That Twitter thread linked her obituary, which Tizon was also the primary source on, and it's goddamned nightmarish.
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May 17, 2017 09:20
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Jesus Christ. I've read a lot of hosed up poo poo on these forums but that was far and away the most heartbreaking thing I can remember reading. EDIT: gently caress that guy's entire family, I mean. That poor woman. Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 12:30 on May 17, 2017 |
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May 17, 2017 12:20
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Goddamn that was loving awful. That poor woman never got a chance to have a normal life, it was always in service of that family. It also makes me wonder how often this happens. Given the lengths the parents went to hide the very obvious fact that the woman was literally their slave, I imagine they are not the only family to pull this kind of thing 
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May 17, 2017 12:57
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Panfilo posted:Goddamn that was loving awful. That poor woman never got a chance to have a normal life, it was always in service of that family. Anytime you encounter a prostitute or exotic dancer flip a coin. Heads? That person is a slave. It's insanely common. I wonder how much of the reaction to this story in particular is that she was a domestic slave rather than a sex worker. It certainly adds a layer of "closer to home" to it.
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May 17, 2017 13:55
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There definitely is more awareness of human trafficking these days (I'm assuming it's because the public started to become aware white people are affected which is why some of them suddenly started caring, in spite of it going on for a long rear end time) and you're probably right that people's reactions are probably affected differently between a sex worker and a domestic worker.
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May 17, 2017 14:02
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Jenner posted:Came here to post some stuff that was brought to my attention. Adrian Chen has an interesting collection of responses by Phillipinos to the story here
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May 17, 2017 16:44
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Patrick Spens posted:Adrian Chen has an interesting collection of responses by Phillipinos to the story here I see some Filipinos are conflicted with this, but you know? gently caress their shame. gently caress their honor. That woman was a slave. This is hosed up.
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May 18, 2017 02:01
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Patrick Spens posted:Adrian Chen has an interesting collection of responses by Phillipinos to the story here I feel like a lot of these responses don't make sense without knowing what they're responding to, insofar as they keep referencing liberals and cultural posturing, etc. I lol'd at that one dumb person who asserted that conservatives view other cultures with more nuance than liberals tho.
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May 18, 2017 09:18
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theCalamity posted:I see some Filipinos are conflicted with this, but you know? gently caress their shame. gently caress their honor. That woman was a slave. This is hosed up. Yeah. Even if it is different in the Philippines or more complicated or whatever, that all went away the moment they moved this woman to the US. Couldn't speak the language, no income, and a dicey immigration situation, what choice did she have but to stay with the people who couldn't even bother to give her an actual loving place to sleep at night.
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there wolf posted:Yeah. Even if it is different in the Philippines or more complicated or whatever, that all went away the moment they moved this woman to the US. Couldn't speak the language, no income, and a dicey immigration situation, what choice did she have but to stay with the people who couldn't even bother to give her an actual loving place to sleep at night. Also, if it's different there, then comment on the wrongness of the things that made it different and whether they're enough, rather than saying it's different to brush off having to be introspective. Bringing it back on the thread's main topic, brushing things off like that rather than thinking about the similarities is how white people treat the past (at least as far as white people talking among themselves goes, I bet it's not nearly as polite outside that context). xthetenth fucked around with this message at 19:50 on May 18, 2017 |
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May 18, 2017 19:46
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there wolf posted:Yeah. Even if it is different in the Philippines or more complicated or whatever, that all went away the moment they moved this woman to the US. Couldn't speak the language, no income, and a dicey immigration situation, what choice did she have but to stay with the people who couldn't even bother to give her an actual loving place to sleep at night. Guess what? It's still wrong to do in the Philippines, too. Human rights are human rights.
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May 19, 2017 01:08
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stone cold posted:Guess what? It's still wrong to do in the Philippines, too. Human rights are human rights. I'd agree in general, but not being Filipino or an expert on their culture I'm not going to tell a bunch of Filipino people that they're absolutely wrong based on my limited knowledge and some tweets. What I can say with absolute conviction is that in the US, Lola was a slave by any definition and so all the people sighing over white westerners judging her treatment by our own cultural standards can shove it.
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May 19, 2017 01:19
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Also, when people called out the current Filipino president on his own take on the 'War on Drugs', many Filipinos responded with stuff to the effect of, "You don't understand, you're not Filipino" . So I'm not surprised at the reaction of some Filipino-Americans on twitter. I mean if people can tolerate the Duterte Regime, then the idea of domestic slavery is going to seem like chump change in comparison. Panfilo fucked around with this message at 04:08 on May 19, 2017 |
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May 19, 2017 01:32
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Panfilo posted:Also, when people called out the current Filipino president on his own take on the 'War on Drugs', many Filipinos responded with stuff to the effect of, "You don't understand, you're not Filipino" . #1 Duterte. #2 Turning a blind eye to injustices under the auspices of cultural mismatch is a tacit endorsement of it, and every Filipinx American who defends both this and Digong's regime should be ashamed of themselves. Like, the man wants to execute children. Or in other words: stone cold posted:Guess what? It's still wrong to do in the Philippines, too. Human rights are human rights.
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May 19, 2017 02:57
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Sheriff David Clarke is now officially assistant secretary of the DHS. I actually think this is an improvement because the DHS has a ton of bureaucracy to keep him from changing/disregarding policy and procedure on a whim like he does in Milwaukee, and federal appointees have much more potent oversight than "hope Scott Walker does a good thing, ever". Maybe people will stop dying in county jail constantly now. As an assistant secretary, how much damage is he even in a position to do on his own? I know there's probably going to be 100x the "race traitor" hot takes now when he says something stupid though.
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May 19, 2017 05:22
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In case you don't know who David Clarke is, he intentionally murdered people in his jails by letting them die of thirst, and other things.
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May 20, 2017 06:42
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doverhog posted:In case you don't know who David Clarke is, he intentionally murdered people in his jails by letting them die of thirst, and other things. Among those other things being that he calls BLM a hate group. His wikipedia page is basically a big list of what makes you a terrible person.
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May 22, 2017 20:13
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signalnoise posted:Among those other things being that he calls BLM a hate group. His wikipedia page is basically a big list of what makes you a terrible person. His RNC speech made me physically ill.
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May 22, 2017 21:04
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X posting. http://ew.com/movies/2017/05/22/rihanna-lupita-nyongo-ava-duvernay-movie/ EW posted:After dramatic negotiation session at the Cannes Film Festival, Netflix has nabbed a film project pairing Grammy winner Rihanna with Oscar winner Lupita Nyong’o, in a concept that began as a Twitter sensation. Ava DuVernay (Selma) will direct, and Issa Rae (Insecure) is in talks to write the screenplay.
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May 22, 2017 21:13
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NGL I am super pumped about this project
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Morby posted:His RNC speech made me physically ill. http://pulsegulfcoast.com/2017/05/transcript-of-new-orleans-mayor-landrieus-address-on-confederate-monuments I assume that the contents of this link are good enough for me to post it without any real comment on it. I want to read your reactions to it. I think it is a Good Thing personally.
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May 24, 2017 23:20
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signalnoise posted:Hopefully this speech reverses that This is one of the best speeches I have ever read. Thank you for posting it.
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May 24, 2017 23:53
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signalnoise posted:Hopefully this speech reverses that Whoa, I'm getting teary eyed over here. 
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MariusLecter posted:Whoa, I'm getting teary eyed over here. same, that was a fantastic and incredibly moving speech
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May 25, 2017 02:27
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signalnoise posted:Hopefully this speech reverses that
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May 25, 2017 16:52
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So this was passed to me last night by a friend, it is an email replying to a craigslist ad seeking to add PoC rappers to form a local political, pro-Black hip-hop group: There ain't a facepalm big enough for this poo poo. I've suggested they reply with something along the lines of "We appreciate your interest in the position, and while your skills and qualifications are more than sufficient for this position, we feel at this time that you would not be a good culture fit for our organization, and we will be moving forward with other candidates".
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May 26, 2017 04:30
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HotCanadianChick posted:So this was passed to me last night by a friend, it is an email replying to a craigslist ad seeking to add PoC rappers to form a local political, pro-Black hip-hop group: Lol. I go to all the meetings and nobody who hangs with black people talks like that.
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May 26, 2017 05:08
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The local rag posted an editorial calling for the removal of our own monument to sore losers. It'll be interesting to see how many places end up following in New Orleans' footsteps with this.
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May 26, 2017 06:22
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there wolf posted:The local rag posted an editorial calling for the removal of our own monument to sore losers. It'll be interesting to see how many places end up following in New Orleans' footsteps with this. Hope springs eternal that it's "all of them". I'm loving tired of seeing the lone giant-rear end black truck in Ann Arbor with a confederate flag. We were in the Union, you stupid fucker.
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May 26, 2017 13:59
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I too also worry about whitepower coalition of musicians not allowing black people. Wack af
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May 26, 2017 14:14
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*extremely white person voice* Motherfuckers be wack as gently caress, dog.
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MariusLecter posted:I too also worry about whitepower coalition of musicians not allowing black people. It really is the exclusion of black people that's the big concern when it comes to white power music groups...
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May 27, 2017 05:30
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There sure are some racist Star Trek fans who are unhappy about the cast of the new series. 
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May 27, 2017 13:43
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silvergoose posted:There sure are some racist Star Trek fans who are unhappy about the cast of the new series. My only problem with it is they buried it on a pay to watch web thing where no one will watch it.
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May 27, 2017 16:00
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cis autodrag posted:My only problem with it is they buried it on a pay to watch web thing where no one will watch it. The good news is I believe netflix said they will release the episode online for people to watch, except in the US...
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silvergoose posted:There sure are some racist Star Trek fans who are unhappy about the cast of the new series. I don't think they "get" star trek. Though it's impressive how white as hell it's been despite attempting some revolutionary politics in the 60s. I'm pretty sure Captain Kirk calls capitalism "barbaric necessity" at one point.
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Is there any discussion of American Gods on STARZ going on here? The bits with Anansi, Bilquis, Anubis and Thoth have a lot of material to unpack in them and the actors cast in each of the roles have been loving killing it. I mean, holy poo poo: http://www.thedailybeast.com/american-gods-delivers-a-powerful-black-lives-matter-message
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