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ex post facho posted:spicy take: the league should contract by about 16 teams, their talent dispersed, change the first two rounds of the playoffs to best of three elimination, and shorten the season by about ~22 games. you know the NBA doesn't refund your tickets and repay the advertisers when your team loses right
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ex post facho posted:spicy take: the league should contract by about 16 teams, their talent dispersed, change the first two rounds of the playoffs to best of three elimination, and shorten the season by about ~22 games. Here's my hot take: I enjoy watching my team play basketball even if they haven't been very good for a while.
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Space Camp fuckup posted:Here's my hot take: I enjoy watching my team play basketball even if they haven't been very good for a while. the magic make me want to be a fan of another team. E: being a magic fan is like being in a very boring relationship and looking out and seeing a bunch potential relationships that can be way more fun, but you've put too much time into your current relationship to bail, and you remember the few sparks you've had in the past and you're kind of holding out for the next spark. or death. whichever comes first. boop the snoot fucked around with this message at 15:34 on May 17, 2017 |
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i mean i definitely enjoy watching nba basketball and the nuggets. but its kind of silly to keep pretending that more than maybe 4 teams have a legitimate shot at making the finals each year
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If you want more parity just remove the caps on player salary but keep team salary caps.
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If you want "parity" you switch to a single elimination playoffs format. Right now the best team usually wins.
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ex post facho posted:i mean i definitely enjoy watching nba basketball and the nuggets. but its kind of silly to keep pretending that more than maybe 4 teams have a legitimate shot at making the finals each year You're right, only 4 teams play in the conference finals. It's silly to suggest otherwise. Jokic makes everything more palatable
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ex post facho posted:but its kind of silly to keep pretending that more than maybe 4 teams have a legitimate shot at making the finals each year That wouldn't change in your NBA either. If anything it makes it worse. Basketball is a sport dominated by the best players. Unless you want to get rid of the salary cap, max contracts, and force everyone to be on one year deals than teams that are good are gonna keep staying good for a while.
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The League has never been as entertaining as it's been recently. Pretty much every team has good players to watch. Besides the Nets anyway. If you want championship parity the NBA isn't the league to watch. It's never had parity. Never ever ever ever. Like there are ~10-12 organizations who have won a championship in the past 30 years or some poo poo.
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We are like, a few flaps of a butterfly's wings away from this year's conference finals being like, a KD-lead Thunder vs. the Rockets.
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Dexo posted:The League has never been as entertaining as it's been recently. Well, that's not exactly true. In the 70s the NBA had 8 different champions in 10 years, which is insane. 1980 onward however, there have been only been 11.
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idk, maybe it's just the doldrums of the year when there's not much else happening but as a fan of a small market team the nba feels more futile than ever. the argument for "high entertainment" is fine if you dont care about actual competition, which i do. nba pressers at least show the latest in fashion haute couture. its fun to imagine a league where the nuggets have enough talent to actually make the finals while jokic is in his prime but I'm pretty sure we're just in for 3-4 more cavs-warriors finals until lebron finally starts breaking down Paul Zuvella posted:Well, that's not exactly true. In the 70s the NBA had 8 different champions in 10 years, which is insane. and there were only 17 teams. ex post facho fucked around with this message at 16:01 on May 17, 2017 |
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ex post facho posted:idk, maybe it's just the doldrums of the year when there's not much else happening but as a fan of a small market team the nba feels more futile than ever. It's nba, anything can happen. Remember, Cleveland was a fart joke of a franchise until Lebron showed up. Golden State was terrible for years until they got incredibly lucky and drafted Curry, Draymond, Klay, and Harrison barnes with either garbage 2nd rounders or mid lottery picks. Can you fathom the amount of luck that takes? The only team that has legit been around forever is San Antonio, who are some kind of souless basketball factory. Other than then the best teams in the league really do shuffle around every 4-5 years or so.
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Basketball lacks parity but makes up for it by being the most dynamic and fun sport to watch day-to-day, I'll always take that trade-off
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i think evan's probly correct, the only real way to ensure a modicum of parity is single elimination, but that's sort of against the spirit of the nba a best of three format would be great. i'd think it's a lot more possible for some random low seed to beat a coasting high seed if they only need to win 2 of 3 instead of 4 of 7
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leftist heap posted:We are like, a few flaps of a butterfly's wings away from this year's conference finals being like, a KD-lead Thunder vs. the Rockets. [metapod voice] KD never led the Thunder.
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Dexo posted:The League has never been as entertaining as it's been recently. Paul Zuvella posted:Well, that's not exactly true. In the 70s the NBA had 8 different champions in 10 years, which is insane. I know it doesn't seem like it but 1980 was 37 years ago.
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The parity in the 70s probably had way more to do with cocaine than the number of teams playing.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Well, that's not exactly true. In the 70s the NBA had 8 different champions in 10 years, which is insane. 70s were like almost 40 years ago old man. I did forgot about the Trailblazers in 77 though.
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Lockback posted:I know it doesn't seem like it but 1980 was 37 years ago. No it wasn't! It was only uh 20 years ago!
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Paul Zuvella posted:Well, that's not exactly true. In the 70s the NBA had 8 different champions in 10 years, which is insane. Paul Zuvella posted:It's nba, anything can happen. Remember, Cleveland was a fart joke of a franchise until Lebron showed up. Golden State was terrible for years until they got incredibly lucky and drafted Curry, Draymond, Klay, and Harrison barnes with either garbage 2nd rounders or mid lottery picks. I'd also argue that the Lakers have been around forever despite the last few years but that's a minor quibble. The NBA is in a great spot now. There's tons of talent, games are in general pretty fun, and even when they're not there's enough nonsense and goofy poo poo around the game to be entertaining. Also Golden State and Cleveland generally play basketball that's extremely fun to watch, which isn't always the case with top teams. The league just seems to have more personality than other sports leagues, which goes a ton towards making everything seem more fun.
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When people say the year 2000 I usually think "oh okay so a decade ago" and then I realize how old I am.
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aBagorn posted:Well, I don't think anyone is saying Convington is a franchise player. But he is one of the elite perimeter defenders in the league and league average from 3pt. On a team with potential superstars that can score (embiid/jackson) and distribute (simmons) he is an invaluable piece Yes I completely agree with that, I was just saying that passing on Jackson or Tatum because they project as a 3 like Covington (as Dejan was implying) isn't very sensible reasoning to me. tanglewood1420 fucked around with this message at 16:34 on May 17, 2017 |
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Paul Zuvella posted:Well, that's not exactly true. In the 70s the NBA had 8 different champions in 10 years, which is insane. The 70s were also when the popularity was low. It didn't pick up again until the Celtics and Lakers dynasties of the 80s and even more during the Bulls dynasty of the 90s.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:hot take: a 55% foul shooter is not an elite scorer "What is a Shaq?" -Some moron
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Lockback posted:Spacing valley of the Timberwolves Am I the only one seeing 
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Salvor_Hardin posted:"What is a Shaq?" Lol
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Salvor_Hardin posted:"What is a Shaq?" Wilt Chamberlain was garbage at basketball
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Shorten the regular season to 20 games. Best 28 teams make the playoffs. Playoffs are six months long with every round a best of 9 series.
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The Biggest Jerk posted:It speaks to a larger issue in the NBA. In a closeout you won't have full control cause you gotta be contesting a shot as fast as you can as well as adjust at the last moment. This is a perfect example on how Zaza's is obviously intentional. The most far forward thing on Bertans is his hand. His shoulder is more or less over his foot. He protects Livingston by not making his foot the furthest out part of his body. There's still a chance Livingston comes down on his foot but hey, that's basketball. It's the complete opposite of what Zaza did, which was intentionally place his feet in such a way that Kawhi has no space to land safely. Bertans has his feet to the side of where Livingston took off. Zaza has his way behind where Kawhi took off.
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TBeats posted:the magic make me want to be a fan of another team. And you can tell she's not even trying anymore. But those memories, man...
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morestuff posted:Dissolve teams, all players are required to drive around the country in dune buggies playing 1-on-1 on improvised courts whenever they cross paths In full armor. TWO GO IN, ONE COMES OUT!
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Paul Zuvella posted:Well, that's not exactly true. In the 70s the NBA had 8 different champions in 10 years, which is insane. But that's mostly because of the 80s and 90s. If you take the last 20 years, there have 9 different champions and another 7 teams that got to the Finals and never won, which is over half the league. If you take the last 10 years, there have been 7 different champions. Teams are going to be good for multiple years in a row in literally every sport. Now right now, yeah, maybe we're in the middle of a glorious decade-long Warriors reign of terror, but somehow I suspect it won't actually play out that way as much as I'd like it to.
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Pro Tip: The top prize for NBA InPlay tonight is very nice. Same prize if you win playing with the Cavs or the Celtics. Also, you should play InPlay now and forever so I get to keep my job.
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big boi posted:Pro Tip: The top prize for NBA InPlay tonight is very nice. Same prize if you win playing with the Cavs or the Celtics. Also, you should play InPlay now and forever so I get to keep my job. It's an app right? Or is there a website?
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Kibner posted:The 70s were also when the popularity was low. It didn't pick up again until the Celtics and Lakers dynasties of the 80s and even more during the Bulls dynasty of the 90s. Top talent was also dispersed over two pro leagues in the 70s and the biggest star in the NBA was a surly, militant black man who didn't like giving interviews
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big boi posted:Pro Tip: The top prize for NBA InPlay tonight is very nice. Same prize if you win playing with the Cavs or the Celtics. Also, you should play InPlay now and forever so I get to keep my job. I'll vouch it's a very fun app
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