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paternity suitor posted:I had a dream last night about how dominating a defense with Embiid/RoCo/Jackson would be. I woke up so excited Exactly aBagorn fucked around with this message at 14:19 on May 17, 2017 |
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euphronius posted:Can Jackson shoot nba 3s yo. Jackson has the tools and frame to be both an effective scorer and defender at the NBA level. He is big and quick. I don't really see a better option for the team at 3. Monk basically will never be an effective defender in the NBA and Fox is a walking bust destined to be drafted by the kings.
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May 17, 2017 15:02
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Paul Zuvella posted:Jackson has the tools and frame to be both an effective scorer and defender at the NBA level. He is big and quick. I don't really see a better option for the team at 3. Monk basically will never be an effective defender in the NBA and Fox is a walking bust destined to be drafted by the kings. I notice you didn't directly answer my question lol
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May 17, 2017 15:04
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If you think Jackson can shoot threes soon take him at 3 i agree. But if he can't shoot 3s trade down or do something else. IMHO.
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May 17, 2017 15:09
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https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/864653965488685056
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May 17, 2017 15:09
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https://twitter.com/paulpierce34/status/864646029961863169
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May 17, 2017 15:25
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Jeanie Buss playing chess out here
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May 17, 2017 15:26
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Hahah that gets me right here (hovers around heart, chest area)
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May 17, 2017 15:26
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euphronius posted:If you think Jackson can shoot threes soon take him at 3 i agree. Yeah, I think he will be able to shoot open 3s fine. He's not some elite perimeter threat. Probably like a .350-.360 guy. e: When did Paul Pierce learn how to use emoji? Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 15:30 on May 17, 2017 |
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May 17, 2017 15:28
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That would be good enough combined with the rest of the total package as you mention. Sounds good if he can hit 36%.
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May 17, 2017 15:31
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Like any reasonable NYC basketball fan I thought the bow at MSG center court was great entertainment, but this is super hosed up this whole draft is hosed trash my teams will never be good
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May 17, 2017 15:31
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euphronius posted:That would be good enough combined with the rest of the total package as you mention. Monk is extremely good at what he does, I just think he is far too limited physically to make it in the NBA as a defender. I was a lot higher on him until I realized his winspan is 6'3". Short with T-rex arms is a dangerous combination. It just makes sense to me to take the guy who can eventually do a lot of things well.
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May 17, 2017 15:33
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They could stash monk on the other teams pg. but it limits switching yeah.
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May 17, 2017 15:34
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Actually after thinking about it can we just trade our pick for Butler instead please
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May 17, 2017 15:40
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Perimeter defense isn't as huge of a deal if you have someone like Embiid back there. Monk just has to learn how to funnel guys in that scenario
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May 17, 2017 15:48
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EvanTH posted:Like any reasonable NYC basketball fan I thought the bow at MSG center court was great entertainment, but this is super hosed up this whole draft is hosed trash my teams will never be good If he were the Celtics general manager sitting with the top pick, Walt Frazier said he would take Lonzo Ball over Markelle Fultz. “Ball reminds me of [Jason] Kidd,’’ Frazier said. “The way he passes the ball, defense, quickness. [Fultz] I saw as well. I wasn’t that impressed. Some of the games I saw, he had a poor game.’’
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May 17, 2017 15:49
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I will laugh so hard when the Lakers pass on Ball.
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May 17, 2017 16:34
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According to the vertical the celtics won the first pick ping pong drawing 3 times before the lakers combo came up
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May 17, 2017 16:56
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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/864845906973257729
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May 17, 2017 17:06
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EvanTH posted:Like any reasonable NYC basketball fan I thought the bow at MSG center court was great entertainment, but this is super hosed up this whole draft is hosed trash my teams will never be good I blame the entire team from the brass to the bottom for unnecessarily winning like 7 games towards the end of the season
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May 17, 2017 17:08
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You can find shooters in free agency, you can't find a Josh Jackson in free agency
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May 17, 2017 17:52
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Josh Jackson is a nearly instant double double threat plus defense. The only question is his shot and I believe it will work. If I had to choose between having JJ or Wiggins come back for a sophomore season I'd choose JJ. But I'd choose Embiid over both.
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May 17, 2017 17:59
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Declan MacManus posted:You can find shooters in free agency, you can't find a Josh Jackson in free agency I think this is a very salient point.
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May 17, 2017 18:02
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Oh I did forget one thing. Josh Jackson has another negative that I haven't been mentioning. His free throw shooting is a travesty.
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May 17, 2017 18:03
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Jaylen Brown is gonna be a drat good defender
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May 17, 2017 18:18
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Cool Buff Man posted:Jaylen Brown is gonna be a drat good defender I think he will be too, however bear in mind in with stats he matched up disproportionately against second unit guys this year.
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May 17, 2017 18:27
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tanglewood1420 posted:I think he will be too, however bear in mind in with stats he matched up disproportionately against second unit guys this year. Yeah it's just really encouraging as a rookie, even if it's versus trash players. He's been used a lot to close out games also though - he gets lost sometimes but drat if he isn't insanely athletic. Lebron's gonna roast him in a few hours and I'll probably cry
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May 17, 2017 18:30
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This is what worries me about Lonzo in the half-court: https://fansided.com/2017/05/04/lonzo-ball-off-dribble-shot-making-translate-nba/ His shooting form when going off-the-dribble prevents him from attempting a good shot when going to his right.
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May 17, 2017 18:31
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Cool Buff Man posted:Jaylen Brown is gonna be a drat good defender gently caress it, stick him on LeBron tonight.
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May 17, 2017 18:46
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Salvor_Hardin posted:gently caress it, stick him on LeBron tonight. *Lebron scores 50 points and dunks so hard that the lottery undoes itself and the Celtics pick last*
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May 17, 2017 18:49
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Paul Zuvella posted:*Lebron scores 50 points and dunks so hard that the lottery undoes itself and the Celtics pick last*  no dont
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May 17, 2017 18:53
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Kibner posted:This is what worries me about Lonzo in the half-court: https://fansided.com/2017/05/04/lonzo-ball-off-dribble-shot-making-translate-nba/ Slightly off topic, one of my favorite things to do at Summer League is hound a player who can only dribble with one hand or only go in a certain direction. I think I pissed off a bunch of Laker fans when I kept yelling that Russell was going left or that if he went right he would just cross over for a pull-up. They wanted to say something snarky to me so much but couldn't because he kept doing it. What I'm saying it, everyone should go to Summer League and hound Ball about going right
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May 17, 2017 18:58
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At the beginning of your post I thought you were talking about playing in a summer rec league and by the end it made more sense as a goon.
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May 17, 2017 19:01
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Salvor_Hardin posted:gently caress it, stick him on LeBron tonight. I don't know that they have much choice because Crowder is a bit too slow and everyone else is too small. And yes he will probably get vaporized but guarding playoff Lebron as a rookie is going to be a great learning experience
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May 17, 2017 19:01
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Lockback posted:I think we need a defensive SF who can shoot the 3, push LaVine as a 30+-minutes off the bench guy, and let Wiggins play the 2 where he is a lot more dangerous. A stretch 4 is the 2nd biggest need, and Markkanen is a good fit, but I think a lot of people are nervous with him because of the bust factor there. Definitely a risk you take in the mid-late lottery though. If you're worried about 'Bust Factor' and then you draft Issac, lookout. There's a lot more risk involved in that pick than "best shooter in college."
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May 17, 2017 19:06
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Rick posted:If you're worried about 'Bust Factor' and then you draft Issac, lookout. There's a lot more risk involved in that pick than "best shooter in college." I think there's risk all over at that place in the draft. I like Markkanen though, and you have me leaning back that way if he's there. If Isaac truly becomes Harrison Barnes +2 inches I'm coming back to you.
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kiimo posted:At the beginning of your post I thought you were talking about playing in a summer rec league and by the end it made more sense as a goon. I'm the gooniest goon that ever gooned at Summer League. Pretty sure the Kings superfan group that travels everywhere to see the team hates me because I kept hounding Vivek about Knightman Lockback posted:I think there's risk all over at that place in the draft. I like Markkanen though, and you have me leaning back that way if he's there. If Isaac truly becomes Harrison Barnes +2 inches I'm coming back to you. Houston's successful (regular season) run showed that a sharp shooting big who can't play defense isn't completely detrimental to the team.
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May 17, 2017 19:15
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I'm not worried about finding shooters. I'm worried about playing non shooters on the floor with Simmons and Embiid. ( and to a lesser extent Saric). But good brains think he (jj) can shoot well enough where his man won't sag off so take him and sign reddick and Lowry.
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May 17, 2017 19:17
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I do like the potential of Issac a lot, don't get me wrong, but there's a lot of risk with him because we are talking about a guy who does some really impressive things that go on highlights, but then kind of sucks the rest of the game. Which actually does sound like Harrison Barnes until this season maybe.
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WhyteRyce posted:Slightly off topic, one of my favorite things to do at Summer League is hound a player who can only dribble with one hand or only go in a certain direction. I think I pissed off a bunch of Laker fans when I kept yelling that Russell was going left or that if he went right he would just cross over for a pull-up. They wanted to say something snarky to me so much but couldn't because he kept doing it. I should be going this summer to visit a friend of mine who just moved out there for a job. Pretty excited!
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