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a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Sociopastry posted:

I really like your painting style. Are you just over painting or what is it you're doing?
Thanks :mrgw:

For things like this one, where I'm using a lot of different references (I have different references for hands and even individual fingers, leg position, boots, pants, different parts of the jacket, multiple for the shark head, etc.) I do a pretty detailed sketch so that I can fiddle around and make sure everything fits together in the right way.

In this case, I 1. lay out the sketch in a layer over a gray background layer, then 2. go underneath that to put in flat colors, then 3. add a little bit of value detail, then 4. merge those layers to start painting, and then 5. color. I refine things all throughout as I go along. This is pretty much the same thing I do when painting in traditional media (oils especially)

I don't do much with fancy brushes—I just use a brush with one hard edge and one soft edge set to pen pressure opacity and oriented based on stroke direction, and at the biggest brush size that's practical for whatever I'm working on.



If I'm drawing something pretty much directly from one reference, I usually just go straight into (black and white then color, or directly into color) painting.

If I'm drawing something mainly from imagination, like the picture I posted earlier with the axe lady, I tend to do a really quick rough sketch and spend most of the time just painting:

a hole-y ghost fucked around with this message at 19:17 on May 16, 2017

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a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Oh, right, and when I color I use a brush set to the Overlay blending mode—I read about that in some Deviantart tutorial at some point, and I like it because it's really similar to glaze painting in oils, which is what I'm used to doing.

e: Not sure if I answered your question. I think I did? Sorry if I didn't

a hole-y ghost fucked around with this message at 19:12 on May 16, 2017

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


nope, that answers it! I thought it looked similar to oil painting so I'm glad to see I was halfway right.

I'm still trying to find my style of shading digitally. I have two modes, it seems like, where I either do hyper-saturated things like the first Gunslinger drawing or stuff like:



which were done for shirts and are way less saturated then the stuff I tend to do for commission.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Sociopastry posted:

I'm still trying to find my style of shading digitally. I have two modes, it seems like, where I either do hyper-saturated things like the first Gunslinger drawing or stuff like:



which were done for shirts and are way less saturated then the stuff I tend to do for commission.
Don't pick—keep doing different methods! You'll end up primarily doing the one that comes most naturally anyway, and if you learn a lot of different styles, then all the better when someone wants to hire you to make something with a certain look in mind. Love that skeleton by the way!

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


Thanks. Bonehilda's her own woman.

cmykJester
Feb 16, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Anyone here use the Surface Pro 4 for drawing? I'm thinking about picking one up.

Nevermind I heard it was bad.

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a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

ohigami oh my posted:

Anyone here use the Surface Pro 4 for drawing? I'm thinking about picking one up.

Nevermind I heard it was bad.
What did you hear about it specifically? I'm curious about those.

cmykJester
Feb 16, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Mostly that the pen for it is garbage and that it lacks the GPU power needed for photoshop.

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


if we're talking about tablets, I really like my UGEE M708. I got it to replace my 15 year old bamboo tablet and I'm in love with it.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

ohigami oh my posted:

Mostly that the pen for it is garbage and that it lacks the GPU power needed for photoshop.
Ah, gotcha. Thanks

Sociopastry posted:

if we're talking about tablets, I really like my UGEE M708. I got it to replace my 15 year old bamboo tablet and I'm in love with it.
How are the driver compatibilities on it?

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


Drivers are available for windows 7-10, Mac, and I'm not sure about Linux. Works well in photoshop and the pen pressure is really good, and the buttons are customizable, which I like. Downsides: not compatible with the current release of Krita, which hurts me to my bones, and the tablet size I got can be a little cramped if you have a dual-monitor display like I do. That said, I still really like it a lot.

Also comes with a really nice pen stand that has replacement nibs in there, which I thought was neat.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Huh. Never even heard of Krita. How does it compare, performance-and-feature-wise, to other programs?

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


I loving loved it. It's basically a less-performance heavy version of Photoshop, with a lot of customizable things. It's also free, which was a huge bonus to poor-as-gently caress me.

https://krita.org/en/

here's the website. I honestly loving adored it, but like I said, the UGEE M708 isn't compatible with the current iteration of it. It's being updated fairly often tho, so hopefully that will change.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Whoa. I'll have to give that a try. Thanks!

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


yeah, no worries! It's legitimately my favorite art program and I'm waiting eagerly for the day that my tablet is supported again.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Off topic but wow—this thread is way different now that the middle aged asian man that likes to cream his pajama pants while looking at pictures of Something Awful Forums moderators ate a 30 day and the RoboLabia guy is back on hiatus.

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


it's almost like creepy dudes ruin things

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

I wouldn't say "ruin." Those moments are definitely entertaining.

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry
I recently got a Huion 1060 plus and it's so good I wanna marry it. It was affordable at around 100bux with shipping, and has a big nice draw area. I can now do linework without the stabilizer 'cause there's hardly any wonk to the lines. There's 12 customizable buttons and the pen's light and feels good in my hand.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

I don't much care for anxiety dreams in general, but they can make for some interesting drawings.

Nijinsky Hind
Apr 26, 2008

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I'm honestly still in the process of learning/playing catch up & lately I've been doing fan art for practice when I can't think of anything else to do. Any advice would be welcome.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Nijinsky Hind posted:



I'm honestly still in the process of learning/playing catch up & lately I've been doing fan art for practice when I can't think of anything else to do. Any advice would be welcome.
My general advice for trying to learn and play catch up is to figure out what you're really bad at in drawing and make yourself draw things with that in it.

Nijinsky Hind
Apr 26, 2008

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a hole-y ghost posted:

My general advice for trying to learn and play catch up is to figure out what you're really bad at in drawing and make yourself draw things with that in it.

I meant like advice on the pic I posted but that's good advice too

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Well, it depends on what you want to improve on, really. Any art you really like the style of and want to learn, or anything about how you draw that you're trying to figure out how to push further?

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
His pose is pretty stiff and not action filled, when you draw a character try to reduce the number of lines that go straight up and down to as small of a number as you can without looking ridiculous

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Was working more on the one I just posted and accidentally shifted a layer, but I thought it looked pretty cool :kiddo:just wanted to share this little moment with youse

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


that looks super cool like that, actually.

coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext

Sociopastry posted:

that looks super cool like that, actually.

+1 I like it shifted!

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

Nijinsky Hind posted:



I'm honestly still in the process of learning/playing catch up & lately I've been doing fan art for practice when I can't think of anything else to do. Any advice would be welcome.

You might wanna work on connecting your lines - you're leaving forms open when defining edges don't quite meet, which gives the pic a bit of a hazy, airy feel. That's fine for stuff like hair and feathers and as a stylistic choice for background or undefined stuff, but I think here you'd want a more solid feel. For example, the corner of the cape, point of the boot and just under the elbow are wide open with only the colour connecting them.
Also try to pull your lines in one quick swoop, so you don't end up with mid-point flyaway ends, like on the cheek. Control-z is your friend here, just pull a quick line and if it doesn't work out, ctrl-z and repeat until you got what you want.

Since there's no variance in line width, I take it you're not working with a tablet?

Sociopastry posted:

yeah, no worries! It's legitimately my favorite art program and I'm waiting eagerly for the day that my tablet is supported again.

I know this was a while back, but check out Artweaver, it's another free art program and my absolute favourite, and maybe there's a chance your tablet would work with it?

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a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Cool, I love hearing about good programs—didn't know about Artweaver either!

Anyone else super bummed that a lot of the images in the good art goon thread are turning into dead links? :(
That thread is gospel to me

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give it a look-see

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
RIP to the highest quality art thread on the forums

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Does anyone know if Tony Danza's Ho still posts her art here, or if not here, anywhere? I really liked that goon's art.

e: sorry if a little off topic but I figured this thread is basically the de facto CC chat thread

coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext
Well it's a lot busier now we're all just talking about poo poo



Does anyone have any tips for representing stubbly/shaved hair? Do you think this works?

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

deathbot posted:

Well it's a lot busier now we're all just talking about poo poo



Does anyone have any tips for representing stubbly/shaved hair? Do you think this works?
If part of the head is shaved, make sure it follows the shape of the head. This just looks like one side is darker and one side is lighter hair. To represent stubbly hair, I'd just draw that part of the head and shade it similarly to how you did the nose.

Another thing to keep in mind, however you end up drawing it: stubble tends to look denser towards the edges of the head, because you see more of it overlapping with itself:

I've exaggerated here for effect but hopefully this gives an idea.

a hole-y ghost fucked around with this message at 18:05 on May 20, 2017

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Drawing update: think I'm done with this one.

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

deathbot posted:

Well it's a lot busier now we're all just talking about poo poo



Does anyone have any tips for representing stubbly/shaved hair? Do you think this works?

Ghost already pointed out following the shape of the head, but I'd like to add that here you should also pull back on the hairline. For very short, almost bald head you might only want to put down a couple of dots or very short lines here and there to represent stubble. For longer stubble it's ok to do short lines to define the hairline, and a sort of a "fuzzy" uneven outline at the top.

I put together some ways I've done short hair, if it helps:

Nijinsky Hind
Apr 26, 2008

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Sharpest Crayon posted:

You might wanna work on connecting your lines - you're leaving forms open when defining edges don't quite meet, which gives the pic a bit of a hazy, airy feel. That's fine for stuff like hair and feathers and as a stylistic choice for background or undefined stuff, but I think here you'd want a more solid feel. For example, the corner of the cape, point of the boot and just under the elbow are wide open with only the colour connecting them.
Also try to pull your lines in one quick swoop, so you don't end up with mid-point flyaway ends, like on the cheek. Control-z is your friend here, just pull a quick line and if it doesn't work out, ctrl-z and repeat until you got what you want.

Since there's no variance in line width, I take it you're not working with a tablet?


I know this was a while back, but check out Artweaver, it's another free art program and my absolute favourite, and maybe there's a chance your tablet would work with it?

I actually was working with a tablet :sweatdrop:. I was using the linework pen tool in Paint Tool SAI set to a small size. I realize I should've used some line width variance but that's honestly not my strong suit

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Revisiting an old project and trying to learn Marvelous Designer for the jacket. So far it is very difficult to get the results I want. Leather jacket ended up looking more like the puffy pirate shirt from Seinfeld. Ugh.



Concept here.



Quick stab at adding the monowheel.

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FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


A++++ Motorcycle Monkey

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