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Inspector Gesicht posted:Is the margin of success for a movie a gross that is double the cost of production and marketing combined? Like a 100 mil picture with 50 mil marketing should break even at 300 mil? This doesn't count the Net because the Net does not exist. There are a hundred other factors that can factor into that, so it's hard to say for certain. In particular, merchandising. A film that breaks even can still be a success if it pushed enough t-shirts and action figures.
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Wasn't there a superman movie that made its budget in merchandising before the movie even premiered?
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marshmallow creep posted:Wasn't there a superman movie that made its budget in merchandising before the movie even premiered? probably all of them
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Man of Steel was famously reputedly in the black before it hit theaters, just on the strength of merchandising and product placement.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:You all joke, but seemingly the leak also had the movie doing away with the idea of Predators hunting for sport, apparently they've been using the dna of their kills to genetically enhance themselves and to create a new species of super pred. I trust Shane Black so it's okay but Arnie is a smart dude for movies so it's kinda not optimistic.
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Gatts posted:I trust Shane Black so it's okay but Arnie is a smart dude for movies so it's kinda not optimistic. Counterpoint: Expendables franchise, Sabotage.
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GrandpaPants posted:Counterpoint: Expendables franchise, Sabotage. Counterpoint: Sabotage is good.
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Counterpoint Terminator Genynsis. The worst studio backed fan film I've seen. I love the guy, but he's made some goddamn awful repugnant poo poo. He probably didn't have much to do in the script. I'd assume he would show up for a minute at the end to set up a sequel. Same reason he didn't do Predators. If he's gonna play Dutch again, he's going to play Dutch and not some quick fanboy cameo.
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marshmallow creep posted:Wasn't there a superman movie that made its budget in merchandising before the movie even premiered? Quite a lot of big franchise films make most of their money from merchandise and product placements or at very least enough to cover the cost of the herculean undertaking that is making a blockbuster film.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Counterpoint: Sabotage is good.
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Iron Crowned posted:I'm apparently the only person who doesn't like AvP R it was a terrible movie, so you are not.
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Just shove a skeleton with a big skull and maybe bits of a flat top in the corner of some shot. Boom, dead Dutch cameo.
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CelticPredator posted:Counterpoint Terminator Genynsis. Also good. Some wild opinions in this thread.
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Casimir Radon posted:It's the worst movie I've seen in the last 10 years. Watch more movies. Or develop a keener taste in trash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA7s35OnxVo I will admit that it must really suck to go into Sabotage expecting S.W.A.T. and then getting Super Troopers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCUaH6yPEtw
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Sir Kodiak posted:Also good. lol this post.
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Was it common knowledge that in the new Mummy film Russell Crow is playing Dr Hyde in the Nick Fury role of the monster shared universe? because my opinion on how I feel about that is changing by the second.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Was it common knowledge that in the new Mummy film Russell Crow is playing Dr Hyde in the Nick Fury role of the monster shared universe? because my opinion on how I feel about that is changing by the second.
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So in this cinematic universe, Nick Fury is also the Hulk? Also, I saw it on Twitter the other day so I dunno how secret it is.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Was it common knowledge that in the new Mummy film Russell Crow is playing Dr Hyde in the Nick Fury role of the monster shared universe? because my opinion on how I feel about that is changing by the second. Dr. Jekyll, actually Lobok posted:So in this cinematic universe, Nick Fury is also the Hulk? Universal already dropped footage of Crowe turning into Mr. Hyde a couple days ago to most of the genre/geek media outlets
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Casimir Radon posted:It's the worst movie I've seen in the last 10 years. What? It's got Mark Dacascos, Carrie-Anne Moss, Graham Greene, and Tony Todd in it. Sabotage is a great movie.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:What? It's got Mark Dacascos, Carrie-Anne Moss, Graham Greene, and Tony Todd in it. Sabotage is a great movie. No idea or opinion on this one but let's play "name the incredibly talented people who were involved with a movie that was terrible." It's happened.
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Bye bye man
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Just started watching GitS against recommendations. Hey it's Michael Wincott I'd go gay for him. Movie any good? probably not. ScarJo pretty and talented? huh she still is. This movie stinks even though it's very flashy.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:this is a hour+ long commercial for candy crush saga? Nope, candy crush is getting a prime time TV show. In case you haven't seen the ads for it... no, that is not a joke.
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GrandpaPants posted:Counterpoint: Expendables franchise, Sabotage. That's not really a counterpoint, it just says that the guy who agreed to be in the Expendables movies thought the new Predator movie script wasn't good enough for him. Also, the last Terminator was great.
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Quote seems more like Arnold thought his part was just a glorified cameo and wanted more. Also thanks to watching a random video on YouTube they're now recommending me all these awful Alien: Oven Mitt reviews including some morons that have spoilers in the title of their videos.
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syscall girl posted:No idea or opinion on this one but let's play "name the incredibly talented people who were involved with a movie that was terrible." It's just that I prefer to believe this is the only movie of that name. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117533/
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:What? It's got Mark Dacascos, Carrie-Anne Moss, Graham Greene, and Tony Todd in it. Sabotage is a great movie. Greene is a good writer, didn't know he did movies as well!
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Tars Tarkas posted:Quote seems more like Arnold thought his part was just a glorified cameo and wanted more. Do they answer what the black goo is?
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syscall girl posted:Hey it's Michael Wincott I'd go gay for him. I was disappointed Wincott was in this for a mere 3 minutes, most of which he spends hanging from a robogeisha on the wall
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Sir Kodiak posted:Counterpoint: Sabotage is good. gently caress you! Don't you scream at me!
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It is cool that when they actually do make 80's and 90's style action movies, people hate them.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It is cool that when they actually do make 80's and 90's style action movies, people hate them. Sabotage is absolutely 80s/90s as hell. I did not expect how gnarly and gory it was going to be. It was a nice surprise.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It is cool that when they actually do make 80's and 90's style action movies, people hate them. 80's and 90's style action movies featuring the best and brightest of the genre? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzMH6Ehupys
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wyoming posted:Do they answer what the black goo is? Nano machines The same ones the government uses in chemtrails
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Black goo is turnin the frickin frogs gay!!
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wyoming posted:Do they answer what the black goo is? 
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CelticPredator posted:Black goo is turnin the frickin frogs gay!! It's grey goo dumb dumb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpL5zn1H4UU
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Sir Kodiak posted:There are countless margins, none with any serious connection to reality. The production budget is only somewhat known, the marketing budget is generally unknown, the cut from theaters can change over time and vary by region, money from merchandising and product placement aren't known, etc. There simply is not a reliable way to judge financial success from the outside for anything but runaway hits and absolute bombs. My favourite weird Hollywood budget trivia is that Christopher Nolan grew 500 acres of corn for the opening scenes in Interstellar and after shooting he had the crops harvested and sold and actually made a profit on them.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:My favourite weird Hollywood budget trivia is that Christopher Nolan grew 500 acres of corn for the opening scenes in Interstellar and after shooting he had the crops harvested and sold and actually made a profit on them. Something something Hollywood cutting a profit from corn subsidies. 
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