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Decius posted:Really? I admit, I'm half a season behind because of time constraints (sadly the case for most series at the moment, just caught up with this season's Doctor Who this weekend for example), but they surely didn't make Steve Rogers a Nazi in the MCU too? That's the point I meant they wouldn't touch on the MCU, after the (deserved) poo poo they caught in the 616. Making the government a oppressive fascist state - well, that's just getting caught up with reality... Not Cap himself of course (in fact the show not touching on what the Avengers are doing really stands out in this storyline), but they did make one of the main cast into a nazi.
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Aphrodite posted:Not Cap himself of course (in fact the show not touching on what the Avengers are doing really stands out in this storyline), but they did make one of the main cast into a nazi. But that leads to some fantastic acting. Though in general the whole cast is one of the best of basic cable.
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Lurdiak posted:It might've been worth it if the show was any good, Then it was absolutely worth it because the show is the best thing Marvel is putting out right now, on TV or in theaters.
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May 16, 2017 18:13
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There's no point arguing with the legitimately insane.
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I'm watching a show where a head in a jar is controlling dozens of robot clones, a robot woman used The Matrix to become real, and this; http://i.imgur.com/6aUzQ4s.gifv It is the most glorious comic book poo poo and owns so hard.
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May 16, 2017 18:27
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Said head in a jar also recently specified in dialogue that he is Designed Only for Killing.
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Ojjeorago posted:Said head in a jar also recently specified in dialogue that he is Designed Only for Killing. I never thought I'd see MODOK but here we are
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Ojjeorago posted:Said head in a jar also recently specified in dialogue that he is Designed Only for Killing. And in The Framework (aka Matrix), the robot lady was referred to as Madame HYDRA and named herself Ophelia. The Framework is an alternate world where HYDRA rules and the main characters are all HYDRA agents instead of SHIELD agents, and dead characters are back. It's all so good and I love it.
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Aphrodite posted:There's no point arguing with the legitimately insane.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8YJt6iQPNA Dafne Keen's audition with Jackman. Notable for seeing him scream obscenities at a child. This is supposedly mostly improvised, which is impressive since it's one of the best scenes in the whole film
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Does anyone recommend the Modesty Blaise film that came out about 10 years ago? I've never seen it that I can recall but it says "Quentin Tarantino presents..." on the cover (I assume it's a movie he helped to get released, like The Protector, rather than one he was substantively involved with) which makes me curious as to what it's like.
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Jamesman posted:Then it was absolutely worth it because the show is the best thing Marvel is putting out right now, on TV or in theaters. I have nothing against AoS, it looks like it's a lot of fun at least some of the time and I'm all for gratuitous Ghost Rider. But that is an utterly ridiculous thing to say, and there's no way you don't know that.
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haitfais posted:I have nothing against AoS, it looks like it's a lot of fun at least some of the time and I'm all for gratuitous Ghost Rider. But that is an utterly ridiculous thing to say, and there's no way you don't know that. Not utterly ridiculous... I mean, it isn't an opinion I'm certain I share, but I understand where it's coming from. The films obviously have a spectical about them that the show can't match, but having 80-odd hours to tell its story has its own benefits. The show's villains are very well executed for example, and there's more breathing room for character development. Speaking of the characters, AoS is really the only MCU property tackling the 'diversity issues' some people have with the franchise at large. It's a show that lets women and poc feel included in ways that the movies often don't. Watching this past story arc in particular I was glued to my seat wanting to know what was going to happen next. I found myself feeling genuine concern for the fate of the agents that I haven't felt from one of the movies since... Winter Soldier, maybe. The other thing is that Agents of Shield is consistent in its quality. The Netflix shows might have higher highs in a given episode but comparing the seasons as a whole I'd argue that only Jessica Jones gives AoS real competition. It really is a good show and deserves more love than it gets.
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haitfais posted:I have nothing against AoS, it looks like it's a lot of fun at least some of the time and I'm all for gratuitous Ghost Rider. But that is an utterly ridiculous thing to say, and there's no way you don't know that. Out of all the Marvel shows and movies, I am being completely serious when I say AoS is my favorite. Like Yakmouth said, part of it is that it's a regular TV series so my interest is constantly renewed each week, and the other part is that it's just really good.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Does anyone recommend the Modesty Blaise film that came out about 10 years ago? I've never seen it that I can recall but it says "Quentin Tarantino presents..." on the cover (I assume it's a movie he helped to get released, like The Protector, rather than one he was substantively involved with) which makes me curious as to what it's like. Quentin's presented a lot of poo poo.
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Yakmouth posted:The other thing is that Agents of Shield is consistent in its quality. The Netflix shows might have higher highs in a given episode but comparing the seasons as a whole I'd argue that only Jessica Jones gives AoS real competition. *Applies only after the first 18 episodes. (I like AoS a lot and the past season has been especially great, but the stink of the 5 month tease from the first season still colors a lot of people's perception of it and they aren't wrong.)
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May 17, 2017 13:59
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The pre-winter break part of the Hive season (was that last year, or two years ago?) was disjointed and kind of weak too. I know people think the closet speech that tied it all together redeemed it and posted a whole bunch of holky gently caress and peak TV, but I don't feel the same way.
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I watched 6 episodes of the first season and after like 3 episodes it was just me forcing myself to watch it, so I gave up
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The first season is uneven and the middle third is pretty dire but it's worth powering through because they bring Bill Paxton on and it gets amazing.
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Hmmm, Bill Paxton, Powers Boothe.... I'm starting to think AOS' bad show radiation is what's killing off these actors.
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Lurdiak posted:Hmmm, Bill Paxton, Powers Boothe.... I'm starting to think AOS' bad show radiation is what's killing off these actors. That's just what Ozymandias wants you to believe.
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Lurdiak posted:Hmmm, Bill Paxton, Powers Boothe.... I'm starting to think AOS' bad show radiation is what's killing off these actors. Oh no! Olmos  But for real, on my list of greatest MCU moments, that scene in the diner of Skye revealing she knows Ward's a traitor by berating him and showing her absolute disgust is high up there.
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Lurdiak posted:Hmmm, Bill Paxton, Powers Boothe.... I'm starting to think AOS' bad show radiation is what's killing off these actors. Aww, now I'm sad.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I watched 6 episodes of the first season and after like 3 episodes it was just me forcing myself to watch it, so I gave up Let me just relay the early episodes to get everyone up to speed. This may be long. The early episodes are kind of "conflict of the week" business where the agents get called in to check out someone with superpowers or doing dangerous experiments, or collecting items that are alien and too dangerous to be in the wrong hands. There are some underlying connections with most of these missions though, with a company called Centipede doing shady poo poo, an industrialist involving himself with lots of shady poo poo, and a cybernetics company connected to both. Meanwhile, Coulson believes he was clinically dead for a few minutes and saved, and the real story is being hidden from him. Questions get raised as Coulson keeps experiencing strange after-effects of his near-death experience, and Centipede seems eager to learn more about what actually happened to him, so they can use it themselves. Since these are, for the most part, subplots to the aforementioned "conflict of the week," it feels like the show is spinning its wheels and focusing on characters who are just glorified grunts, not very different from any other SHIELD agents, except for being a team assembled by Coulson. When Captain America: The Winter Soldier revealed that not only was HYDRA still in existence, but had infiltrated SHIELD, HYDRA goes all in and comes out of hiding and sends a message to all their agents. Centipede turns out to be a HYDRA front and people within SHIELD on the show turn out to be HYDRA. Now the underlying plots become the main plots and the driving force for the team to do the poo poo they do. It's a significant enough shift that people consider this the turning point for the show. However, the episodes prior to this build all that up and introduce you to things that pay off later. The impact of this change isn't really felt unless you see where the change comes from. I feel the episodes are good enough to be worth watching, as even if nothing feels significant, you are seeing the team come together and learning about these characters. I look back at the early episodes with fondness, seeing what those seeds have grown into and feeling very satisfied with the payoff. It may seem like a lot to suggest a person watch a bunch of episodes of a show they genuinely don't like, but I do feel like if someone sticks with the show until that turning point, there's a good chance they will find themselves enjoying the show and not regretting the journey there. Or it could just be the show really isn't for them and they just wasted 17+ hours of their life that they could have used to play Angry Birds on the toilet or something.
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Hey guys? Did you know that parts of season 1 of Agents of SHIELD are pretty bad? Did you know that? Guys? Guys did you know? Hey gu
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Since you jerks aren't going to watch it anyways, in addition to Coulson not being dead, he's also a Ghost Rider now.
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Ojjeorago posted:Since you jerks aren't going to watch it anyways, in addition to Coulson not being dead, he's also a Ghost Rider now. Okay, you've got my attention.
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You know what makes no sense? Ghost Riders gain more power in their cars, but if you Ghost Ride the whip you are explicitly outside of your car.
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BrianWilly posted:Hey guys? Did you know that parts of season 1 of Agents of SHIELD are pretty bad? They're not though. That's my point. 
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Gavok posted:Oh no! Olmos It was the look on his face when she called him a Nazi. It was the most priceless thing in the world.
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haitfais posted:Okay, you've got my attention. Next year's budget means they won't do anything with it.
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It's especially funny that Marvel is all "No Hydra isn't Nazis please buy our books!" while their TV show has their main characters saying "All Hydra are Nazis. And don't you ever (loving) forget it."
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BrianWilly posted:Hey guys? Did you know that parts of season 1 of Agents of SHIELD are pretty bad? You think BvS is good, so your opinion is not remotely trustworthy.
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This is the movie, thread. Take all the AoS stuff to the TV thread if you want to discuss it that much.
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Endless Mike posted:You think BvS is good, so your opinion is not remotely trustworthy. I said that I liked it. Didn't mean it was good. 
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I liked it because it was good. I've only seen each version once though. The second version was better.
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X-O: You nerds stop talking about a TV show, this is the movie thread! Goons: BvS was good! Monkey's paw: *shrivels*
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purple death ray posted:X-O: You nerds stop talking about a TV show, this is the movie thread! Quick everyone, rank these three movies. Man of Steel Batman v (the "v" stands for "vs") Superman Suicide Squad
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Ok, hypothetical here, but say DC/WB decides to pull their heads out of their asses. They decided to make fun of themselves and BvS especially with say, a Blue Beetle/Booster Gold movie. Who do you cast as Ted, who as Mike?
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You already ranked them in correct order. Whether you love, hate, or generally have no strong feelings, I think most would come up with that same order.
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