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A Pelican blogger wrote up some words on potential second round picks for the team. What do you guys who actually look at players that go that deep think?quote:Wesley Iwundu, G/F, Kansas State (13.0 pts, 6.3 rebs, 3.5 assists)
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# ? May 17, 2017 20:42 |
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I'm just starting to get back into basketball again, so let me see if I have this straight: Lonzo Ball is a good to very good player, but his father is obsessed with making billions of dollars off of him and promoting him as an unholy basketball monster made from the seed of Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson, and will throw an Archie Manning-esque tantrum if the Lakers don't draft him. Close enough?
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# ? May 17, 2017 20:46 |
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Timby posted:I'm just starting to get back into basketball again, so let me see if I have this straight: Lonzo Ball is a good to very good player, but his father is obsessed with making billions of dollars off of him and promoting him as an unholy basketball monster made from the seed of Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson, and will throw an Archie Manning-esque tantrum if the Lakers don't draft him. Pretty much.
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# ? May 17, 2017 20:47 |
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Timby posted:I'm just starting to get back into basketball again, so let me see if I have this straight: Lonzo Ball is a good to very good player, but his father is obsessed with making billions of dollars off of him and promoting him as an unholy basketball monster made from the seed of Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson, and will throw an Archie Manning-esque tantrum if the Lakers don't draft him. He also is a misogynist and his son is in no way a sure thing to succeed in the NBA. Also he thinks that he can beat Jordan one on one.
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# ? May 17, 2017 20:47 |
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IcePhoenix posted:Actually after thinking about it can we just trade our pick for Butler instead please i would also like my team to trade their pick for Jimmy Butler
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# ? May 17, 2017 21:14 |
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EvanTH posted:i would also like my team to trade their pick for Jimmy Butler I called dibs and also our pick is one higher than yours so nyah
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# ? May 17, 2017 21:21 |
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Kibner posted:A Pelican blogger wrote up some words on potential second round picks for the team. What do you guys who actually look at players that go that deep think? I have not seen Bolden or Dotson yet but the rest of these are pretty solid. I also love Iwundu. Like he's probably the player he is, which is to say, he isn't going to get much better. But he's already pretty good! I'm not sure how he's going to do against NBA talent since we mostly saw him against low quality schools. I like Nigel Williams too, although I'm not as confident about his ability to translate his skills to the NBA, but they might which is what you want in a second round pick. And I think the tournament and combine have really shown what Bell can do.
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# ? May 17, 2017 21:46 |
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Kibner posted:A Pelican blogger on potential second round picks for the team. What do you guys who actually look at players that go that deep think? Frank Mason, G, Kansas – A true winner, who can be a nice backup for a team if given an opportunity. Nobody says anything about Frank except a nice player lacking athleticism. 41 inch vertical sounds pretty athletic to me but am I confusing vertical for athleticism?
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# ? May 17, 2017 21:56 |
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Paul Zuvella posted:He also is a misogynist and his son is in no way a sure thing to succeed in the NBA. Lol he doesn't think he can beat Jordan 1v1 He knows he can
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# ? May 17, 2017 22:47 |
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I'm cool with the Sixers using a second rounder on Goss
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# ? May 17, 2017 22:54 |
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Declan MacManus posted:You can find shooters in free agency, you can't find a Josh Jackson in free agency
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# ? May 18, 2017 00:51 |
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Lockback posted:I think there's risk all over at that place in the draft. I like Markkanen though, and you have me leaning back that way if he's there. If Isaac truly becomes Harrison Barnes +2 inches I'm coming back to you. Barnes plus 2 inches is basically Rashard Lewis. Honestly if Lewis were reincarnated into the draft now he'd be worth a first overall.
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:15 |
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DeimosRising posted:Barnes plus 2 inches is basically Rashard Lewis. Honestly if Lewis were reincarnated into the draft now he'd be worth a first overall. Proto Rashard Lewis with better defensive instincts is going to go between 5-8 in this draft. If FSU had less selfish guards, who knows how high he'd be
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:23 |
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If the Sixers do take Jackson. I wan them to grab Williams-Goss and Hart in the second. Or package a couple seconds and Okafor to move back into the late 1st and pick, like, Jawun Evans or somebody like that
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:25 |
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Dejan Bimble posted:Proto Rashard Lewis with better defensive instincts is going to go between 5-8 in this draft. If FSU had less selfish guards, who knows how high he'd be tbf Lewis was raw as hell coming out of high school and iirc sucked for his first couple of years before just suddenly becoming a 17 ppg .400 3pt shooter overnight. The league just has so much better an idea of what to do with a guy who can shoot .400 on 7+ threes a game now, imagine that in place of LaMarcus on the Spurs.
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:28 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:If the Sixers do take Jackson. I wan them to grab Williams-Goss and Hart in the second. Or package a couple seconds and Okafor to move back into the late 1st and pick, like, Jawun Evans or somebody like that decent three point shooting could make him a solid backup pg on a normal team or starter for the Sixers Declan MacManus posted:You can find shooters in free agency, you can't find a Josh Jackson in free agency He's not at risk of being another Michael Kidd GIlchrist, he knows how to fall and there's much more variety in his scoring than pure athleticism stuff, but he will compound their problems with spacing and floor balance in general, if the Lakers don't draft him first. He has a hair impeded shot, I feel bad for posting it constantly but he needs to cut his loving hair and it would be so much easier for him. He'll also be good for the Sixers CULTURE because he cares about defense and plays hard, hopefully he can infect the team and not let Simmons's blahh autism be their team personality.
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:35 |
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I think EMbiid is going to lead that team emotionally.
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:37 |
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Dejan Bimble posted:They don't really need Williams-Goss, they have 3 below the rim slow point guards on the roster already. Hart is nice just because he's a nice all around player who could do well given minutes on a functional team. Jawun Evans has peg arms, when the wingspan hype dies down he might move down. But he's the kind of small guy that moves in the right way to succeed in the NBA. When he needs space for a jumper he pops like a little popcorn to get plenty of room, he uses his arms to do deceptive stuff off the dribble, I'm kinda just throwing out names at this point. I'm just desperate for the Sixers to do something about their lack of guards that does not involve giving Lowry 4/160
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:39 |
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Whats wrong with signing Lowry. THere is no obvious downside.
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:40 |
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Even if you believe he's allergic to the second round, a couple of second round outs would be manna from heaven in Philly. Health permitting, they're going to be good for a decade so it's not like even if he's a jinx it's closing their window.
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:45 |
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On no planet do I want to give Lowry 40 million a year for his 31-35 seasons Especially since he wont' be the primary ball-handler
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:On no planet do I want to give Lowry 40 million a year for his 31-35 seasons Who cares how much he costs. What is it stopping the sixers from doing.
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:48 |
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DeimosRising posted:Even if you believe he's allergic to the second round, a couple of second round outs would be manna from heaven in Philly. Health permitting, they're going to be good for a decade so it's not like even if he's a jinx it's closing their window. Right his contract goes off the books when the 2017 pick us up for an extension.
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:49 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I'm kinda just throwing out names at this point. I'm just desperate for the Sixers to do something about their lack of guards that does not involve giving Lowry 4/160 Monte Morris is a solid PG who'll probably be available in the early 2nd.
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:54 |
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euphronius posted:Who cares how much he costs. What is it stopping the sixers from doing. Sign Lowry for 40 mil a year, that's the Sixers core for the foreseeable future. RobCo needs a big raise. Embiid (probably) needs a big raise. There will be little room to be flexible. Especially if Embiid gets a Brinks trunk and only plays 50 games year Mostly, I just have a bad feeling any big Lowry deal will look real bad in a couple years Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 02:02 on May 18, 2017 |
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euphronius posted:Who cares how much he costs. What is it stopping the sixers from doing. Using their first round pick point forward to the full extent of his abilities, and then not being capped out when all their good young players sign their first post rookie deals. I'm not against it in theory, though. They could always stretch him or waive him before year 4 of the contract
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# ? May 18, 2017 02:05 |
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Would any non-lotto teams that would trade their late 1st for Okafor and 2 seconds?
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# ? May 18, 2017 02:23 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Sign Lowry for 40 mil a year, that's the Sixers core for the foreseeable future. RobCo needs a big raise. Embiid (probably) needs a big raise. There will be little room to be flexible. Especially if Embiid gets a Brinks trunk and only plays 50 games year Roco and Embiid are both bird rights. Maybe not ROco's extension but they have room to do both.
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# ? May 18, 2017 02:25 |
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Dejan Bimble posted:He has a hair impeded shot, I feel bad for posting it constantly but he needs to cut his loving hair and it would be so much easier for him. What about cornrows mentat analysis: shmoov
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# ? May 18, 2017 02:29 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Would any non-lotto teams that would trade their late 1st for Okafor and 2 seconds? Not too many teams with need or PT for a traditional center in that range. Detroit, Denver, and Miami are all set. Probably would have to get to the late teens early 20s before it could be digestible. Maybe Atlanta at #19 if Dwight leaves or Portland/Brooklyn at #20/#22 considering they have multiple picks in the 1st. IMHO he's probably more valuable as a piece in bigger deal; e.g. Okafor, TLC, Covington, Lakers 2019, etc. for Butler. Edit: Misread and thought you meant late lotto.
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# ? May 18, 2017 02:39 |
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Monte Morris is a solid PG who'll probably be available in the early 2nd. Monte is good but I think he's a bad fit for the Sixers because he's so pass-first, and just kind of generally not that great of a scorer when he does put his mind to it, that I just don't see him as aligning with a lineup that doesn't have a lot of other shooting.
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# ? May 18, 2017 03:59 |
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Rick posted:Monte is good but I think he's a bad fit for the Sixers because he's so pass-first, and just kind of generally not that great of a scorer when he does put his mind to it, that I just don't see him as aligning with a lineup that doesn't have a lot of other shooting. True. Not many PGs other than Evans after the bounty in the top 10. Edmond Sumner, Frank Jackson, and NWG are the only ones off the top of my head. I guess the best option would be to package some of the 2nds to grab Evans somewhere in the mid-20s if possible. I'm not super concerned about the position though unless McConnell or Bayless gets seriously injured.
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# ? May 18, 2017 04:33 |
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I feel like Josh Hart would be converted into a PG in any era but this one and like the 1950s, and his on the ball stats make me think he can play it in the NBA (he was better in on the ball PnR than Ball). I also think P.J. Dozier should be playing point but that might just be me. Speaking of South Carolina Thornwell is very much my jam although he is not really a pg although maybe could play the spot with a natural distributor.
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# ? May 18, 2017 05:07 |
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Rick posted:I feel like Josh Hart would be converted into a PG in any era but this one and like the 1950s, and his on the ball stats make me think he can play it in the NBA (he was better in on the ball PnR than Ball). I also think P.J. Dozier should be playing point but that might just be me. Speaking of South Carolina Thornwell is very much my jam although he is not really a pg although maybe could play the spot with a natural distributor. Is Thornwell the defensive stopper that some sites are claiming he is?
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# ? May 18, 2017 05:40 |
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If you don't get a point guard you can always wait for next draft and get lucky enough to snag this dominating killer https://youtu.be/tcVKvvOfsr4
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# ? May 18, 2017 06:57 |
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Is there a ranking of players from both this class and next year's cause I'm curious if Michael Porter tops it.
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# ? May 18, 2017 07:00 |
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If there is I don't know about it. You can bet this class will be deeper though. I've never seen MPJ highlights so I couldn't tell you. Basically because my school was never a recruiting contender.
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# ? May 18, 2017 07:03 |
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Why does Fultz get a pass for having bad teammates but not Dennis Smith?
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# ? May 18, 2017 09:37 |
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Dejan Bimble posted:He has a hair impeded shot, I feel bad for posting it constantly but he needs to cut his loving hair and it would be so much easier for him. He'll also be good for the Sixers CULTURE because he cares about defense and plays hard, hopefully he can infect the team and not let Simmons's blahh autism be their team personality. Sixers already have a very strong team personality, Embiid is going to be the guy that drives it. But they all play hard. I agree that Jackson fits very well with that though.
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# ? May 18, 2017 13:06 |
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McConnell is Garbage and needs to be banished to the Spanish league.
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