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Roger_Mudd
Jul 18, 2003

Buglord

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

I had a knee surgery two weeks ago. My rehab has been brutal because I'm entirely too fat and weak. Having no weight bearing for 2 weeks plus I developed tendonitis in my surgical leg. Anyway I've been going to work and rehab and laying in bed at night strapped to a rehab machine. Been taking a lot of opiates and NSAIDS.

Today, I started projectile vomiting in our elevator and had to get assisted to my office by a colleague. Now I'm running a fever.

I'm guessing I got MSRA or Ebola. Anyone recommend my wife a probate lawyer in Austin?

drat dude. MSRA can kill you. If they can't kill it with meds, they are going to open you back up and scoop the bad guys out.

Hang in there.

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Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

I had a knee surgery two weeks ago. My rehab has been brutal because I'm entirely too fat and weak. Having no weight bearing for 2 weeks plus I developed tendonitis in my surgical leg. Anyway I've been going to work and rehab and laying in bed at night strapped to a rehab machine. Been taking a lot of opiates and NSAIDS.

Today, I started projectile vomiting in our elevator and had to get assisted to my office by a colleague. Now I'm running a fever.

I'm guessing I got MSRA or Ebola. Anyone recommend my wife a probate lawyer in Austin?

If there is any redness or warmth or increased pain in your knee, get thee to a doctor.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

I had a knee surgery two weeks ago. My rehab has been brutal because I'm entirely too fat and weak. Having no weight bearing for 2 weeks plus I developed tendonitis in my surgical leg. Anyway I've been going to work and rehab and laying in bed at night strapped to a rehab machine. Been taking a lot of opiates and NSAIDS.

Today, I started projectile vomiting in our elevator and had to get assisted to my office by a colleague. Now I'm running a fever.

I'm guessing I got MSRA or Ebola. Anyone recommend my wife a probate lawyer in Austin?

Dude. Listen. Gay marry me for a little while and you can have some socialism. You can just stay in hospital, they'll take care of everything, don't have to pay a dime.

I'm sure a little proforma stunt won't do any harm, after all, it's not like it's illegal or anything. Anyone from the foreign ministry service reading this? No? Good.

Actually, I think you can apply for asylum. Can you claim to be persecuted in your country? Well, you are a lawyer, so I guess. If you also voted for Bernie, I'm pretty sure we can squeeze you in as a political refugee.

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

Update: still alive.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

Update: still alive.

Congrats! Or not if you're just anxiously awaiting death's sweet embrace.

EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.

Lote posted:

If there is any redness or warmth or increased pain in your knee, get thee to a doctor.

After knee surgery you whole knee is swollen, warm, and painful

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

I think he's talking about more than I've been enduring.

I didn't expect the mobility to be this bad, or the ancillary things - tendonitis, body pain, aches, fever, hallucination.

Luckily my job is letting me work from home a bit.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
^^^^
Dude, go to a doctor. My dad got an infection after acl surgery and it nearly killed him. Annd then tried again like a decade later.

So, I am sleeping in some guys garage in Lutcher, LA and plan on arriving in NOLA tommorow if I don't get hit by a giant loving truck (also, thanks for opening the spillway, a nice touch).
I've been burning like 6000 cal per day with a significant defict and plan on making it up with the places phil and lote recommended. Also, if anyone wants to get drinks (this is a solo tour), let me know. I'm in town until sunday.

Also, celebrating my birthday with pizza hut delivery and no beer (becaude the local liquor store only had shot). Woooooo.

nm fucked around with this message at 01:29 on May 17, 2017

EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.
Man y'all have poo poo luck with knee surgeries.

And yea, if you're vomiting or hallucinating go to the docs. You're either sick/infected or ODing in pain killers

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

I went to the doctor yesterday and physical therapy today. I reported the symptoms. They think it's unrelated and life just sucks. I'm watching for signs of infection. I've also been cleared to zonk myself with pain killers so I'm doing it.

I'm not a goon posting on the internet without seeking proper medical care contemporaneously.

poo poo just hurts.

Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.
They're going after public service loan forgiveness: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...m=.19309b9859ba

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Look Sir Droids posted:

They're going after public service loan forgiveness: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...m=.19309b9859ba

If they do this retroactively they're gonna get sued by all the govt lawyers, including the fed lawyers. Dunno if it would have merit (would depend on things i don't know), but it would at least be a PITA for trump.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, respect for contracts and all that.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

blarzgh posted:

Yeah, respect for contracts and all that.

:smugdon:

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

I'd literally never be out of my student loans if PSLF goes away. I'm fairly confident that Trump will never get s budget passed and we'll have 1-8 years of CRs. The dangerous part is these first two years where he has the House and Senate.

Article says there's 550,000 people on track to get PSLF support. That's a relatively small amount of people to screw over unfortunately. Hopefully a few Republicans refuse to burn their constituents on this.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid
Today a Dutch and a Greek lawyer lectured me about how "here in Europe we don't sue people because they don't say good morning, or because the microwave didn't say we shouldn't microwave our cat".

Yes, the McDonald's coffee case was mentioned. It always amazes me how people can have such strong opinions about things they don't know anything about.

Oh, one of those things you shouldn't sue about is housing discrimination. "is it just about money for you?"

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
^^^^
I find the easiest way to get them to stfu is point out that we don't have socialized medicine, so any damages will bankrupt the victim.

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

I'd literally never be out of my student loans if PSLF goes away. I'm fairly confident that Trump will never get s budget passed and we'll have 1-8 years of CRs. The dangerous part is these first two years where he has the House and Senate.

Article says there's 550,000 people on track to get PSLF support. That's a relatively small amount of people to screw over unfortunately. Hopefully a few Republicans refuse to burn their constituents on this.

They don't want to burn their children with cush neopotism govt jobs. Also maybe their staff.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

I'd literally never be out of my student loans if PSLF goes away. I'm fairly confident that Trump will never get s budget passed and we'll have 1-8 years of CRs. The dangerous part is these first two years where he has the House and Senate.

Article says there's 550,000 people on track to get PSLF support. That's a relatively small amount of people to screw over unfortunately. Hopefully a few Republicans refuse to burn their constituents on this.

sure you would because you're about to die from msra

seriously though you'd be in the same boat as everyone else on ibr/PAYE waiting 20-30 years for forgiveness instead of 10.

Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.

mastershakeman posted:

sure you would because you're about to die from msra

seriously though you'd be in the same boat as everyone else on ibr/PAYE waiting 20-30 years for forgiveness instead of 10.

20-30 MORE years, you mean. You have to be officially "on IBR" to start counting time for that and they could just say nope, time doesn't transfer.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Look Sir Droids posted:

20-30 MORE years, you mean. You have to be officially "on IBR" to start counting time for that and they could just say nope, time doesn't transfer.

isn't everyone getting PSLF already on one of those repayment plans? it's either that or they're on a plan where they intend to pay the debt off at some point which PSLF wouldnt help with. Either they're paying it off or getting forgiveness , I don't really see any other route.

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

I guess that's true. I was looking forward to having more money at 37, not 47. Maybe the msra will get me first.

Working from home hooked up to a ice machine on pain medicine is the best. Maybe I'll develop an opiate addiction.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jul 13, 2021

WaveLength
Nov 22, 2006

Feel the beat
Securities law...?

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cumrights.asp

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Copyright law is hard.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
You may or may not be surprised how often we don't know if our clients are locked up and if so, why.

sigmachiev
Dec 31, 2007

Fighting blood excels

evilweasel posted:

Also, when drafting something, partners will repeatedly redraft or eliminate stuff they themselves put in. Edits aren't a criticism of your work (or theirs) so don't bring it up that it's their own stuff in there they're editing, they can change their mind too.

Do not, ever, just accept someone's track changes and move on. They will be full of typos. You're expected to correct those, especially since doing edits in track changes means it's hard to spot some typos like extra spaces and double periods and doing stuff in track changes always creates those.

This is from a few pages ago but wanted to add that it's also good policy to ask how the lawyer above you likes to receive edits in track. I personally prefer Word since as a midlevel I manage the docs most times, but most partners prefer PDF.

Also didn't see anywhere in the summer associate tips to focus on being a good person who is excited to be there. Especially if you're trying to do deals, the single biggest thing I look for in anyone, whether it's a candidate, a summer or a junior, is someone who I can trust to be in the trenches with me on late nights and weekends. You can be the most brilliant person but if that's not part of your game you are pretty much useless to me and the partners. Otherwise smart lawyers can and do get fired for that.

Hope everyone's well. Welp, back to my biglaw private equity hell.

GamingHyena
Jul 25, 2003

Devil's Advocate
Private Practice Update/Question:

When I first left my government job to go into private practice a few months ago I was sure I had consigned my family to poverty as I watched the weeks roll by with only the occasional appointed client and no retained clients. My first month out I literally made zero dollars (actually factoring in my office expenses I was working a full time job making negative money). It was honestly pretty tough to get out of bed and even go to the (empty, lonely) office.

Now I'm nearly drowning in work, having gotten two retained cases just this week that will pay about what I made in 2 months in my old job. Of course, I worked (though sadly, not billed) close to 30 hours the last two days and only vaguely remember my family from the photograph on my desk (though for all I know they may have come with the frame). I certainly don't mind putting in the hours but it kind of blows.

My problem is that I'm stuck doing all of my own administrative work which means I'm losing hours in the day licking envelopes that I could be using practicing law and making money. But I don't have the space in my office to have a full time secretary and certainly don't want the financial commitment since I don't have the data yet to figure out what I'll make in a "typical" month.

Anyone have any advice? No law students in the area or I would just hire a gaggle of them and have them prowl the courthouse like my own gang of street urchins filing documents with the clerk and keeping tabs on the legal gossip for me.

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

You're in Texas, which means you're in the hinterlands if there's no law school in the area, or El Paso.

Reach out to a few law schools' career services offices. There's a good chance there is a 1L who is from your city and still doesn't have any work. Pay them $10 an hour to lick stamps and shadow you or whatever.

You get a glorified secretary who will treat you like a king. You get access to their Westlaw account, and they'll probably have a laptop. I got a 1L from Texas Wesleyan once who didn't know anything, but she followed me to court and learned the practical side of office work (sending cmrrr letters, docket tracking, etc).

Glad it's been successful for you!

Edit: you don't have pm's, but I think we know each other. Did you ever have a horrible co-worker named Bethany?

Hot Dog Day #91 fucked around with this message at 06:33 on May 18, 2017

SlothBear
Jan 25, 2009

Look Sir Droids posted:

They're going after public service loan forgiveness: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...m=.19309b9859ba

Well all that money for Devos's private security has to come from somewhere!

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Hey other broken people maybe y'all can help me through this boondoggle I'm in with some advice. I worked at a mid size firm and hated the job so much, not the people or the hours but the work itself: counting hours, the research, everything. Despite getting the offer to join after graduation, a partner (my mentor) and I talked it through and I reluctantly told him how much I hated law. He commiserated and said he wants to retire asap because he's on his second marriage and he's never home (he's 34). He said the job is mine to take and he won't tell anyone I hate it but if he were in my shoes I'd bail on law as a whole. I agreed.

I thankfully graduated debt free from a high-ish ranked law school in California (top 40). I instead took a job as CFO of a small company in Texas I got through a family friend: don't be impressed by the title, I'm mostly a bookkeeper who talks to bankers and recommends actions to the CEO based on basic financial analysis. The CEO (despite my recommendations) has spread the company very thin and I believe it'll go under soon unless something very miraculous happens.

I want to look for a new non-law job but have NO idea how to. I got this job through my family but there's honestly no other options down that road. I got my law job from OCIs. I feel like the only jobs available to me will be as a lawyer, despite my current position (I can get a glowing recommendation if needed). Do I speak to a recruiter or something? It's weirdly hard trying to not be a lawyer after law school. Should I speak to my career services office from school (even though it's in California and I'm in Texas?). I honestly am completely lost about how to find a job outside of using symplicity, which is just for law jobs. Do I need to take the bar and just accept my fate and be a lawyer?

Ani
Jun 15, 2001
illum non populi fasces, non purpura regum / flexit et infidos agitans discordia fratres

sigmachiev posted:

This is from a few pages ago but wanted to add that it's also good policy to ask how the lawyer above you likes to receive edits in track. I personally prefer Word since as a midlevel I manage the docs most times, but most partners prefer PDF.
Send both - if you're working with the doc it's easier to get Word edits but if you are reviewing on a phone it's much better to get PDF.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



mmmm, looking forward to this.

quote:

Under the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program, which the administration's budget would reportedly kill off, student borrowers can currently have their debts erased if they spend 10 years working for a government or nonprofit employer. The program was created in 2007 in order to encourage more Americans to go into public service, but has become more controversial as some have criticized it as a back-door subsidy for expensive graduate degrees—the people who have signed up for so far tend to have high loan balances more typical of someone who went on to get a master's or a J.D. rather than a mere bachelor's. In 2015, the Obama administration proposed capping the amount of debt that could be forgiven at the federal loan limit for undergraduates, or $57,500. But Trump and his education secretary Betsy DeVos would go a step further by eliminating it entirely....

The White House also reportedly wants to make some major changes to the Department of Education's income-based repayment options, which cap monthly payments as a percentage of a borrower's income. The tweaks would essentially help undergraduate borrowers at the expense of graduate students.

Under the current version of income-based repayment, borrowers are expected to pay 10 percent of their disposable income toward their loan balance, which is forgiven after 20 years for people who borrowed for a bachelor's degree, or 25 years for those who borrowed for an advanced degree. Under Trump's plan, borrowers would pay 12.5 percent of their income for 15 years if they borrowed for undergrad or for 30 years if they borrowed for grad school.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2017/05/17/the_trump_administration_wants_to_end_the_public_service_loan_forgiveness.html

Roger_Mudd
Jul 18, 2003

Buglord

GamingHyena posted:

Private Practice Update/Question:
Anyone have any advice? No law students in the area or I would just hire a gaggle of them and have them prowl the courthouse like my own gang of street urchins filing documents with the clerk and keeping tabs on the legal gossip for me.

Find another attorney with staff, offer to pay on an as needed basis for use of that staff. Attorney with staff offsets cost of staff, you don't have to lick envelopes.

Bulky Bartokomous
Nov 3, 2006

In Mypos, only the strong survive.


I think I would be more upset about this but deep down I believed it would never happen anyways.

I'm more bummed about a prospective immediate payment increase.

A Game of Chess
Nov 6, 2004

not as good as Turgenev
I'm still pretty upset. My husband and I have been filing separately and dealing with a host of other annoying related things in reliance on it. Probably should have known better, but hope is terrible. :(

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

We literally have this conversation every year. If it looks like it's going to happen and affect people already enrolled, then start calling your members and senators. But every year this is floated, and it hasn't gone through yet.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

We literally have this conversation every year. If it looks like it's going to happen and affect people already enrolled, then start calling your members and senators. But every year this is floated, and it hasn't gone through yet.

"Haha, Donald Trump will never get elected."

- 100,000,000 people on Nov. 6, 2016.

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

blarzgh posted:

"Haha, Donald Trump will never get elected."

- 100,000,000 people on Nov. 6, 2016.

I think it was substantially more than 100m honestly.

I'm just saying until it's happened I'm not going to stress too much.

Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

I think it was substantially more than 100m honestly.

I'm just saying until it's happened I'm not going to stress too much.

Because opioids?

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blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

I think it was substantially more than 100m honestly.

I'm just saying until it's happened I'm not going to stress too much.

Only 50m people of the 400m in this country even voted against Trump; I think it's a safe bet that barely another 50m left-leaning people knew enough about what was going on to form a personal assessment of his chances.

Never underestimate the amount of apathy around you. Most, as in The Majority, of people don't care about any one particular thing, no matter how important it is.

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