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É uma delação como jamais foi feita na Lava-Jato: Nela, o presidente Michel Temer foi gravado em um diálogo embaraçoso. Diante de Joesley, Temer indicou o deputado Rodrigo Rocha Loures (PMDB-PR) para resolver um assunto da J&F (holding que controla a JBS). Posteriormente, Rocha Loures foi filmado recebendo uma mala com R$ 500 mil enviados por Joesley. Temer também ouviu do empresário que estava dando a Eduardo Cunha e ao operador Lúcio Funaro uma mesada na prisão para ficarem calados. Diante da informação, Temer incentivou: "Tem que manter isso, viu?".

Aécio Neves foi gravado pedindo R$ 2 milhões a Joesley. O dinheiro foi entregue a um primo do presidente do PSDB, numa cena devidamente filmada pela Polícia Federal. A PF rastreou o caminho dos reais. Descobriu que eles foram depositados numa empresa do senador Zeze Perrella (PSDB-MG).

Joesley relatou também que Guido Mantega era o seu contato com o PT. Era com o ex-ministro da Fazenda de Lula e Dilma Rousseff que o dinheiro de propina era negociado para ser distribuído aos petistas e aliados. Mantega também operava os interesses da JBS no BNDES.

Joesley revelou também que pagou R$ 5 milhões para Eduardo Cunha após sua prisão, valor referente a um saldo de propina que o peemedebista tinha com ele. Disse ainda que devia R$ 20 milhões pela tramitação de lei sobre a desoneração tributária do setor de frango.

Pela primeira vez na Lava-Jato foram feitas "ações controladas", num total de sete. Ou seja, um meio de obtenção de prova em flagrante, mas em que a ação da polícia é adiada para o momento mais oportuno para a investigação. Significa que os diálogos e as entregas de malas (ou mochilas) com dinheiro foram filmadas pela PF. As cédulas tinham seus números de série informados aos procuradores. Como se fosse pouco, as malas ou mochilas estavam com chips para que se pudesse rastrear o caminho dos reais. Nessas ações controladas foram distribuídos cerca de R$ 3 milhões em propinas carimbadas durante todo o mês de abril.

Magrov posted:

I'm shocked. Shocked!

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It's a deed like never before in the Lava-Jet: In it, President Michel Temer was recorded in an embarrassing dialogue. In front of Joesley, Temer appointed Deputy Rodrigo Rocha Loures (PMDB-PR) to resolve a matter of J & F (holding that controls JBS). Subsequently, Rocha Loures was filmed receiving a $ 500,000 suitcase sent by Joesley. Temer also heard from the businessman that he was giving Eduardo Cunha and the operator Lúcio Funaro an allowance in prison to keep quiet. Facing the information, Temer encouraged: "You have to keep this, have you?"

Aécio Neves was recorded asking Joesley for $ 2 million. The money was handed to a cousin of the PSDB president, in a scene duly filmed by the Federal Police. The PF tracked the way of the reals. He discovered that they were deposited in a company of Senator Zeze Perrella (PSDB-MG).

Joesley also reported that Guido Mantega was his contact with the PT. It was with former finance minister Lula and Dilma Rousseff that tip money was negotiated for distribution to the PTs and allies. Mantega also operated the interests of JBS at the BNDES.

Joesley also revealed that he paid R $ 5 million to Eduardo Cunha after his arrest, a figure referring to a balance of bribes that the peemedebista had with him. He also said that he owed R $ 20 million for the law on the tax exemption of the chicken sector.

For the first time in the Lava-Jet, "controlled actions" were made, for a total of seven. That is, a means of obtaining evidence in flagrante, but in which the action of the police is postponed to the most opportune moment for the investigation. It means that the dialogues and deliveries of bags (or backpacks) with money were filmed by the PF. The banknotes had their serial numbers informed to the prosecutors. As if that were not enough, the bags or backpacks were with chips so that it could trace the way of the real ones. In these controlled shares, approximately R $ 3 million were distributed in stamps stamped throughout the month of April.

joepinetree posted:

First, I have no doubt that Lula is guilty. But it is incredible that Lula's verdict and possible sentence will come out in June, while the Mensalao Mineiro will prescribe next year. And Delcidio lost his mandate for obstruction of justice, while Aecio is caught on tape saying:

"Tem que ser um que a gente mata ele antes de fazer delação. Vai ser o Fred com um cara seu. Vamos combinar o Fred com um cara seu porque ele sai de lá e vai no cara. E você vai me dar uma ajuda do caralho "

The Unnamed One posted:

I mean, is there a popular leftist option besides Lula?

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather he just go away too, but who else is there with anything resembling his national appeal?

... Ciro Gomes? gently caress.

Mr. Nemo posted:

Can any brasilian goon confirm that people took to the streets over the bribery tapes?

Dias posted:

Ah, I think this merits clarification: for any foreigners thinking "well, this is good news, right?", well...if Temer is impeached (WHEN Temer is impeached), our Constitution says we get indirect elections in 30 days, with Congress members voting on who they want to be the new president. No popular participation at all, God knows who is elligible, it's a mess. Of course, Congress can always try and antecipate the 2018 general elections, but I dunno if they'll do that.

Freezer posted:

So... Is this impeachable? Who becomes president if Temer goes down?

Mr. Nemo posted:

What do the people on the floor make of this?

Is this....good?

Corrupt politicians going away is always good, but who's next? Would Lula run if they call for early elections? Who the hell is going to take Neves position, and would anyone vote for them? When you have the party leaders acting like this you really can't trust any of them.

Symbolic Butt posted:

Pharohman777 posted:

So is Brazil just corrupt everywhere?

Pharohman777 posted:

So is South America Brazil just corrupt everywhere?

Pharohman777 posted:

So is Brazil just corrupt everywhere?

joepinetree posted:

The thing that takes most gringos a long time to adjust to in Brazil is the corruption of daily life. Like the usual "with or without a receipt?" question.