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mojo1701a posted:We could do worse than a cartoon mouse as our lord and master. we already did
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This is going to sound really lame, but it seems to be an unpopular opinion within my social circle--the idea that at ages 30+ (most of my friends are older than me so mid-thirties), getting absolutely trashed every single weekend/social gathering/family get-together is not cool or the only way to have fun. I like having some drinks as much as the next guy, but I'm so over going out to a bar/houseparty several days (or even weeks) in a row and getting totally wasted. I mean, I still drink heavily every once in a while, maybe a couple of times per year, but I know so many people who's goal is seemingly to get shitfaced at every opportunity. Personally, I can't deal with the hangovers anymore, and I feel like at this point in my life there are so many more rewarding things I could be doing instead. There are an awful lot of people that I know who are my age or older than me who haven't seemed to internalize the old "you don't need alcohol to have a good time" adage. It was one thing in your twenties; in your thirties it's starting to become sad and looks increasingly like a drinking problem. (Plus smoking weed is better anyways)
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May 18, 2017 22:00
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Yeah I've noticed even the biggest partiers tend to mellow out by their 30's. The dudes still partying like they're 20 into their mid 30's are just alcoholics or have suffered some sort of arrested development in their lives. I knew a couple dudes who just could not grow up. They were cool 20-something hipsters 15 years ago and now they're 40 but still living the 20-something lifestyle and still trying to pick up 20-something's at parties and it's just really sad. They always have some chips on their shoulder or can't handle getting older. What's adorable and hilarious is when a bunch of mid-30's people who used to party now but have grown out of it decided to do it again for old times sake but they're "out of practise" so get way too drunk way too fast and then have those horrible 2-day hangovers only olds can have.
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May 18, 2017 22:14
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lemon-lyme disease posted:Like, if the parent were to calmly confiscate and sell the device is that pretty much just as bad in your mind, or? I don't know about calmly in this wonderful case from about 13 years ago: quote:Selling Son's Beloved Play Station 2 For Punishment! I wish I had a screenshot of this, but alas.
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May 18, 2017 22:29
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There's nothing wrong with confiscating stuff at all. It's the incredibly angry weirdos who video tape themselves smashing phones and poo poo that creep me the gently caress out. Like that weirdo who got pissed his daughter made a mean Facebook post about him and then made a video shooting her laptop with a shotgun and acting like a mega badass. If you're willing to rage out that bad and smash poo poo because your kid made you mad it ain't crazy to think you're beating them too.
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May 18, 2017 22:37
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It doesn't seem obvious to me that the parent in that story was unhinged or anything but I may need to take a second pass at it. e: That was in response to the PS2 story, not insane laptop-shooter. I completely agree with you there.
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May 18, 2017 22:39
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Yea I got electronics taken from me as a kid, which is a perfectly fine punishment. Key word being "taken" not "smashed" which is just being pointlessly cruel to your children. I can only imagine the crazy amount of resentment that breeds.
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May 18, 2017 22:39
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The worst was a dude who walked into the living room and yelled at his kid for playing games all day. The kid gave some back talk sure, but then the dude started screaming, grabbed all the games and threw them into a bonfire while laughing and yelling at the crying kid. Or the dude who forced his son to sledgehammer his Xbox and when the kid said he didn't want to made some threatening comments until he did it.
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May 18, 2017 22:43
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Definitely in psycho territory for all of those examples and that is, I would hope, obvious to most people. It was mostly the other bit I was curious about. A year or two back, my daughter (13) got her ipod touch taken away indefinitely because my wife discovered she was using it for some potentially dangerous and age-inappropriate purposes. I mentioned this in a class I was taking and got mobbed by a bunch of students who felt this sort of "social deprivation" was abuse - if not outright torture, hindering to her development as a person, etc. I was weirded out by the very concept.
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May 18, 2017 22:56
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Baronjutter posted:
Add in 'in bed by 10' and this is me lol
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May 18, 2017 22:57
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Das Boo posted:Oh god, President Disney has declared a dictatorship. mojo1701a posted:We could do worse than a cartoon mouse as our lord and master. <massive picture of bob iger>
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May 18, 2017 23:22
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lemon-lyme disease posted:Definitely in psycho territory for all of those examples and that is, I would hope, obvious to most people. It's not abuse or social deprivation and having your social life potentially destroyed by a dumb mistake you made at 13 is a hundred times worse than getting your luxury toy taken away. (If it's not what I'm assuming it is, I apologize. I just remember the world suddenly getting skeevy towards me as a 13 year-old girl and me not having the faculties to really navigate it.) Your daughter still went to school and saw her friends, just without a personal electronic device. Like every kid before 2004. Or oh no, a poor kid! Gross! Anyway, she was more socially stimulated than your average homeschooled kid every day. You just stopped her from unwittingly causing damage to herself. On punishment, the abuse comes when you do it with violence. Smashing something, screaming, throwing things? Those are the actions that could damage a kid. They expect you, an adult, to be in control and it's terrifying for them to see you lose it. They suddenly realize their safeguard is actually a danger. I'm  at 29.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:People place far too much value on having a college education. If I compare what I learned in my 9 years of college to what I learned in the 3 and a half years since then, it's not even close. You learn far more on the job. I guess this is accurate if you're like a Janitor or something, sure.
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May 18, 2017 23:42
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Soundgarden's song "Black Hole Sun", along with the video and "Hunger Strike" by Temple of the Dog are the only good things Chris Cornell did musically.
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May 18, 2017 23:59
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We Know Catheters posted:Soundgarden's song "Black Hole Sun", along with the video and "Hunger Strike" by Temple of the Dog are the only good things Chris Cornell did musically. True, but cover versions of Black Hole Sun are almost always better than the original (for instance, Steve & Eydie)
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Das Boo posted:It's not abuse or social deprivation and having your social life potentially destroyed by a dumb mistake you made at 13 is a hundred times worse than getting your luxury toy taken away. (If it's not what I'm assuming it is, I apologize. I just remember the world suddenly getting skeevy towards me as a 13 year-old girl and me not having the faculties to really navigate it.) Your daughter still went to school and saw her friends, just without a personal electronic device. Like every kid before 2004. Or oh no, a poor kid! Gross! Anyway, she was more socially stimulated than your average homeschooled kid every day. You just stopped her from unwittingly causing damage to herself. This was more or less my exact thought process. Thanks for putting it so well. For clarity, there were no nudes THANK loving GOD that I know of, but whatever other bad thing you were imagining probably wasn't far off the mark. I don't know how any kid navigates the world now. At that age, I was probably still blushing at implied romance in whatever dragon-y novel I was reading. Worst part was/is, we are pretty poor and, having grown up not all that well off, I get how hard that can be. We scrimped for the drat thing 'cause I figured it would be something at least. How the hell do other parents effectively monitor these things? Maybe they just don't, which terrifies me. I'm at 33, so you aren't alone.
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lemon-lyme disease posted:This was more or less my exact thought process. Thanks for putting it so well. For clarity, there were no nudes THANK loving GOD that I know of, but whatever other bad thing you were imagining probably wasn't far off the mark. I don't know how any kid navigates the world now. At that age, I was probably still blushing at implied romance in whatever dragon-y novel I was reading. Agh, the poor part makes it worse. The fact that you had to sacrifice to get your daughter her device and then get yelled at and told you're abusive when you take it away is a double slap. I assure you at least in this regard, you're being a good and responsible parent. I can only imagine it's gotten worse with prevalence of social media the ease of picture/video sending. My experience was all restricted to lurid chatroom poo poo, likely because it took an hour to download 2 mb at that point.
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May 19, 2017 00:38
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Yeah, honestly the idea of young teens/tweens having access to modern social media and smart phones is kinda scary. While the internet existed when I was that age, it wasn't anything like it is now (MySpace wasn't launched until around my junior year of high school) and the only real avenues for skeeviness were chatrooms or AIM. While you could obviously encounter a lot of the same issues through the late 90's/early 2000's internet (people could creep on each other in chatrooms, for example), it was a bit more difficult to locate random people based off of their age, location, etc and people couldn't upload and view photos of each other as easily. Communication with peers was effectively "invite only" in the sense that you had to tell someone else your AIM handle; they couldn't just look you up on Facebook. And that's not getting into stuff like smart phones and their cameras, etc. It's a tough issue, because I imagine there are now a bunch of social expectations to have access to this sort of technology for contemporary teens. I guess the best thing you can do is try to create the sort of relationship with your child where they trust you and would feel comfortable telling you if anything weird happens to them online.
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May 19, 2017 02:33
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OldTennisCourt posted:Or the dude who forced his son to sledgehammer his Xbox and when the kid said he didn't want to made some threatening comments until he did it. I'm trying to imagine the kind of threats you could make to someone who's holding a sledgehammer...
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May 19, 2017 03:40
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:I'm trying to imagine the kind of threats you could make to someone who's holding a sledgehammer... "DON'T MAKE ME TAKE THAT SLEDGEHAMMER AWAY FROM YOU AND PUT THE XBOX BACK INSIDE WHERE IT GOES. I'LL HOOK IT BACK UP I SWEAR TO GOD YOU LITTLE ASSFUCK."
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May 19, 2017 04:48
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lemon-lyme disease posted:It was mostly the other bit I was curious about. A year or two back, my daughter (13) got her ipod touch taken away indefinitely because my wife discovered she was using it for some potentially dangerous and age-inappropriate purposes.
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May 19, 2017 05:12
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An iPod Touch can run all iPhone apps
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May 19, 2017 05:35
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It's got pretty simple parental controls on it.
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May 19, 2017 05:44
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Chelsea Manning is pretty
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May 19, 2017 08:38
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Bill Watterson is (was) a hack.
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May 19, 2017 12:42
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What kind of hack refuses merchandising income and ends his strip before it grows stale instead of licensing it out to someone else?
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May 19, 2017 13:00
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Kopijeger posted:What kind of hack refuses merchandising income and ends his strip before it grows stale instead of licensing it out to someone else? It went really loving stale really loving soon.
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May 19, 2017 13:09
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Jerry Cotton posted:It went really loving stale really loving soon. You are an incredibly sad little man, gooningly raging at the universally beloved because contrarianism gets your little pizzle hard.
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May 19, 2017 13:15
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Maybe you shouldn't read this thread.
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May 19, 2017 13:22
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You're right. What I said was hardly unpopular.  If you were to give some kind of argument, or a line of reasoning I might buy it, but I think you were just trying to be provocative.
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May 19, 2017 14:08
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:I'm trying to imagine the kind of threats you could make to someone who's holding a sledgehammer... The kid is like 7 and he's crying and saying he doesn't want to while the dad is like" loving EXCUSE ME, WHAT THE gently caress DID IS SAY? loving DO IT OR I'LL loving DO IT". It's really disturbing.
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We Know Catheters posted:Chelsea Manning is pretty She could get it.
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May 19, 2017 23:28
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Jerry Cotton posted:Maybe you shouldn't read this thread. TBF, we've never treated this as a safe space for unpopular opinions. Which maybe defeats the point I dunno
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fruit on the bottom posted:TBF, we've never treated this as a safe space for unpopular opinions. Which maybe defeats the point I dunno I don't really know... I'm old enough that Popular Goon Opinions don't matter much but I just don't want anyone to have a coronary about something ITT. e: That's a nice avatar 
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Because I was I dick to Jerry Cotton, I shall post my own terrible terrible opinion. I have to phrase this carefully. Back during the election, when the Billy Busch/Trump tape leaked, I was underwhelmed. Of course it is terrible and unacceptable, but when I was a teenager my friends and I used to say stuff way more awful than that, just to be as transgressive and offensive as possible. It's seems kind of like code-switching to me. There was a lot of "locker room talk" like that when I was in the army. This feels pretty indefensible though, and I don't talk like that now, so I'm completely wishy-washy.
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May 20, 2017 05:11
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Uh, the difference is, did you actually do that poo poo? Because Trump did it, as was confirmed by several women after the tape came out. He also wasn't a teenager, but rather a very rich man who ran beauty pageants specifically so he could harass the women participating...
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May 20, 2017 05:18
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The short story There Will Come Soft Rains isn't half as good as the poem There Will Come Soft Rains
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Anyone that supports Trump or Republicans at this time ia a bad person. And yes they should be executed. Also Fox News is basically what every dystopian author from the 1800+ was afraid of.
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doverhog posted:Uh, the difference is, did you actually do that poo poo? Because Trump did it, as was confirmed by several women after the tape came out. He also wasn't a teenager, but rather a very rich man who ran beauty pageants specifically so he could harass the women participating... I'm kinda lovely, I hadn't been following the election super closely because it was bumming me out, and I didn't connect those things.  To be clear Trump is terrible, and I wish him ruin. Slowpoke Rodriguez has a new favorite as of 06:09 on May 20, 2017 |
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Guy Goodbody posted:The short story There Will Come Soft Rains isn't half as good as the poem There Will Come Soft Rains And the cartoon is better than either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNHYz89sNc I like the poem most too
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