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I thought I saw somewhere that there were some weird alternate criteria besides exclusively making an All-NBA team? Am I remembering that wrong?
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BetterLekNextTime posted:I thought I saw somewhere that there were some weird alternate criteria besides exclusively making an All-NBA team? Am I remembering that wrong? MVP or DPOY. Also you need to be with the team that drafted you or traded for you in the first 4 years of your career
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May 19, 2017 19:39
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Kawhi will play, the Warriors will be super physical with him and he'll get hurt again. Everyone will once again complain about how dirty and mean the Warriors are. Or Kawhi will step on David Lee's foot again and his ankle will explode.
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May 19, 2017 19:53
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Bashez posted:Yeah. It's usually hard to get decent information out of them. There was a playoff series a few years ago where Ginobili was hurt and for the next game they called him "questionable" up until tip-off but he played and looked perfectly healthy. Iirc he even acted all limpy and hurt during warmups. Not sure how much of that was Pop and how much was Manu though.
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May 19, 2017 20:15
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Tae posted:This exact conversation happened last year when Anthony Davis was short changed 20+ million dollars because of NBA writers. Okay and? I didn't see JVG's statement. But I guess I would agree with him? It's dumb as poo poo to tie player's financial gains to loving sports writers who don't watch or follow all the games.
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May 19, 2017 20:28
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Dexo posted:It's dumb as poo poo to tie player's financial gains to loving sports writers who don't watch or follow all the games. This I don't disagree with you on. I mean the baseball HoF is such a clusterfuck of dudes making "statement" votes and non-votes. "Why I didn't put Kawhi/LeBron/Russ on my NBA 1st Team" is guaranteed to be a top ten clicked story for a writer in a year.
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May 19, 2017 20:34
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At the very least, if salaries are tied to all-NBA teams, they should just remove the position requirements so people can vote for the top 15 players overall.
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May 19, 2017 20:52
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Lockback posted:At the very least, if salaries are tied to all-NBA teams, they should just remove the position requirements so people can vote for the top 15 players overall. this too
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May 19, 2017 20:55
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The cache a reporter will get will be overwhelm by the bribe after a few time, as it becomes a custom/ritual. People will obviously not give a shot, as they don't give a poo poo now, bribery is a custom. The supreme Court validated it already, so y'all Americans even wrote down the rule, so uncultured
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May 19, 2017 20:57
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Femur posted:The cache a reporter will get will be overwhelm by the bribe after a few time, as it becomes a custom/ritual. People will obviously not give a shot, as they don't give a poo poo now, bribery is a custom. The supreme Court validated it already, so y'all Americans even wrote down the rule, so uncultured look this stack of 100k dollars is no different than 100 thousand people tweeting you about how you should vote me for all NBA.
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May 19, 2017 21:08
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this money is legally a person who is telling you to vote Melo for MVP
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May 19, 2017 21:11
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EvanTH posted:this money is legally a person who is telling you to vote Melo for MVP Zach Lowe is actually classified as an ocean-dwelling vessel and thus only subject to maritime law.
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May 19, 2017 21:25
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Lowry's basically staying https://twitter.com/DanFeldmanNBA/status/865622894470078465
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May 19, 2017 22:35
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I'm glad serge is getting paid
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May 19, 2017 22:45
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Masai with the African connections
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May 19, 2017 22:51
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Metapod posted:I'm glad serge is getting paid The 2012 Thunder had 4 Olympians. It's like a mini-series. Yeah, they gettin paid. edit- Russ and Jim are 1st Team All NBA, Kevin is 2nd.
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May 19, 2017 22:55
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Is there any market for Valanciunas? Is Extremely Big Nog ready to take a minutes jump?
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May 19, 2017 22:55
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DeimosRising posted:Is there any market for Valanciunas? Is Extremely Big Nog ready to take a minutes jump? What does Valanciunas do well? He's not a good defender in the modern NBA and he doesn't stretch the floor.
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May 19, 2017 22:56
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Strawberry Panda posted:Yeah exactly. These guys are self serious and sanctimonious. And if you give them a story to write about they'd rather publish it then take the money. A bribery story is probably worth way more than the bribe to them. OTOH, some of these writers are complete slaves to their organizations. The organization could pay them some money to not vote for certain players etc. Chairchucker posted:Hmm if he's not able to play and the Warriors win they would be up 3-0. That's a pretty difficult score to come back from, almost unprecedented I'm sure. No NBA team has won being down 0-3 IIRC. Niwrad posted:I can't believe both sides agreed to this part of the CBA. It is the dumbest thing I think I've ever seen in a CBA. Paul George misses out on $30 million because a handful of sportswriters didn't vote for him. I can't say I'm shocked. Just another crazy money rule added to the crazy money rule book.
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May 19, 2017 23:01
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Tae posted:What does Valanciunas do well? He's not a good defender in the modern NBA and he doesn't stretch the floor. He has a good touch around the rim and is a good free throw shooter. He's efficient on offense. While he's a bad help defender, he is pretty good in the post/on the ball inside the 3. He is a average to good defensive rebounder. He's not a strong enough defender to anchor around and he's too slow to play the 4. On offense it's similar. You could potentially rely on him to score but it would probably gently caress your whole offense up and require you to get real slow. That said, having him on your bench would be great because he can punk those lesser bigs and punish teams who are trying to play small without elite rim protectors. He plays his best when matched up with big guys like Monroe or even Cousins. He just gets owned so hard when given the responsibility (on either end) to become a more versatile player. BWV fucked around with this message at 23:13 on May 19, 2017 |
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May 19, 2017 23:07
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Pelicans potentially hiring former Vipers coach/current Nuggets asst. coach Chris Finch http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19419070/new-orleans-pelicans-closing-hire-denver-nuggets-assistant-chris-finch
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May 19, 2017 23:12
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Tae posted:I need to read this list more closely, because someone reminded me that DeAndre got three 1st team votes. Some people who like FG% and eFG%. With a FG% of 71.4% DJ had the second highest ever. Only 1973 Wilt with 72.7% is higher. EvanTH posted:By all accounts LeBron James married for love and has fathered no children out of wedlock--basically the worst case situation for all high-minded basketball eugenicists. Don't pin all your hopes on LBJr LBJ had those kids before he was betrothed. That's illegal in some countries!
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May 19, 2017 23:14
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For a guy with such soft hands around the rim, JV is terrible at receiving entry passes when he slips into the paint on PnRs. It's like he never expects them coming, which might say more about the Raptors than it does JV.
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Tae posted:What does Valanciunas do well? He's not a good defender in the modern NBA and he doesn't stretch the floor. He's super efficient and hard to guard because of his above average free throw shooting. He's young and could be a Hibbert esque good defender if the foul call environment changes again. He's shown steady if slow improvement in rebounding and ball security. He compares very favorably to guys like Marcin Gortat or Jusuf Nurkic who are better liked. If he can maintain his efficiency at, say, 25% usage on a slower team that doesn't have a Derozen type black hole, he makes your offense instantly acceptable. I don't think he's a Kanter level liability on D either. edit: The problem is I don't know what teams fit the bill. Dallas would have been a good landing spot but they picked up Noel. The Bucks already have Monroe and know that doesn't really work for them. Utah, SAS, Miami, Minny, and Memphis are locked in at the 5, though I think he'd play well in any of those situations. The Kings are probably going to want to give WCS and Labissiere a shot. Detroit would have to unload Drummond, which probably improves them but offers Toronto nothing. Hornets could work but I don't know what they could offer in return. I think the Hornets could cut Sessions loose and be about 5 million under the cap, so they could eat some salary to save Toronto a bunch of tax money, and they have no one they need to be saving cash for, everyone's locked down or expendable. DeimosRising fucked around with this message at 23:42 on May 19, 2017 |
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May 19, 2017 23:23
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I was with you until the Hibbert on D comparison
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May 19, 2017 23:34
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Cool Buff Man posted:I was with you until the Hibbert on D comparison Hibbert's short time as a good defender was weird as heck. He was just as slow as JV and a terrible rebounder, he had a high block percentage but it didn't translate into much for the first few years. Then when he was a couple of years older than Valanciunas is now, he suddenly started getting tons of leeway on fouls and turned "verticality" into a catch phrase. His already high block rate went through the roof, he was altering basically every shot in the paint, then as quickly as it came it went. His foul rate trended back up and while his blocks stayed high they and his overall defensive impact went back to normal and he was a soft golem again.
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May 19, 2017 23:53
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https://twitter.com/bball_ref/status/865702387448774656 Jesus
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May 19, 2017 23:59
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Shear Modulus posted:There was a playoff series a few years ago where Ginobili was hurt and for the next game they called him "questionable" up until tip-off but he played and looked perfectly healthy. Iirc he even acted all limpy and hurt during warmups. Not sure how much of that was Pop and how much was Manu though. We didn't find out Manu had fractured his arm against Memphis in 2011 until after the series. I can't wait until Jordan goaters are impotently mumbling Jordan while everyone else is debating if Lebron or New Guy is the best ever.
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May 20, 2017 00:07
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I actually look back on the LeBron Heat era fondly, they played some great basketball until they were broken by the immortal Pop
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May 20, 2017 00:17
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I love it. I bet he woke up and decided it would be fun to see whether or not he could shoot .800 around the rim for a couple of weeks. Against the best players in the world.
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https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/865323815970250752Carlosologist posted:I actually look back on the LeBron Heat era fondly, they played some great basketball until they were broken by the immortal Pop This is actually the moment when the LeBron Heat were destroyed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdHsowOBYDs
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May 20, 2017 00:33
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4/80 for serge is a steal
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May 20, 2017 00:35
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Hes the second best ever behind BIll Russell.
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May 20, 2017 00:36
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euphronius posted:4/80 for serge is a steal In 2012
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DeimosRising posted:Hibbert's short time as a good defender was weird as heck. He was just as slow as JV and a terrible rebounder, he had a high block percentage but it didn't translate into much for the first few years. Then when he was a couple of years older than Valanciunas is now, he suddenly started getting tons of leeway on fouls and turned "verticality" into a catch phrase. His already high block rate went through the roof, he was altering basically every shot in the paint, then as quickly as it came it went. His foul rate trended back up and while his blocks stayed high they and his overall defensive impact went back to normal and he was a soft golem again. Yeah Hibbert probably has the weirdest career arc of anyone I can think of. It'd be really interesting to see JV turn a corner on defense because he's insanely efficient in the post but as long as he stays in Toronto I don't really see that happening. He'll get sporadic playing time and almost none in crunch time. JV with a Carlisle-style Postion Whisperer coach would be a very interesting thing to see
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May 20, 2017 00:53
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Papes posted:In 2012 You mean relative to the 2012 cap or for 2012 Serge?
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May 20, 2017 00:57
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KAJ seems so nice and classy
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