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Pistol_Pete posted:So many people in this thread fixated on how their inheritance will secure their future so long as it's not snatched away, like they're characters in a Victorian novel or something. Jarndyce & jarndyce is a thing for a reason
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# ? May 19, 2017 19:29 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 10:25 |
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Jeremy Corbyn, YOU JUST MADE THE LIST
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:02 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Because the polling companies adjusted their weightings after 2015 to give them the "correct" result. 1) You have to ignore the fact that in historic elections (1997, 1992 etc) the Labour vote was overstated and pollsters 'adjusted' then. There is a historic trend of pollsters overestimating Labour support. 2) Even if Labour party support is being polled accurately, that doesn't get over the conundrum of Corbyn's popularity still being incredibly low. The evidence is consistent that when there's a disparity between these two figures, the national share moves in the direction of the leadership rating.
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:11 |
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i got the deposit for my flat from my great aunt who was in care and completely gone from dementia and totally healthy otherwise and expected all the money to go to her care. Then I visited her for the first time in the care home and she dropped down dead suddenly a week later
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:12 |
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Alchenar posted:1) You have to ignore the fact that in historic elections (1997, 1992 etc) the Labour vote was overstated and pollsters 'adjusted' then. There is a historic trend of pollsters overestimating Labour support. 1) As far as I'm aware no pollster has largely ignored self-stated likelihood to vote in favour of demographic analysis before. 2) Except for like, this election campaign.
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:27 |
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Jose posted:i got the deposit for my flat from my great aunt who was in care and completely gone from dementia and totally healthy otherwise and expected all the money to go to her care. Then I visited her for the first time in the care home and she dropped down dead suddenly a week later Despite all the people in this thread moaning about reduced inheritances, in your case your inheritance might have increased under the proposed changes.
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:27 |
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Jose posted:i got the deposit for my flat from my great aunt who was in care and completely gone from dementia and totally healthy otherwise and expected all the money to go to her care. Then I visited her for the first time in the care home and she dropped down dead suddenly a week later How did you kill her?
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:29 |
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Also I think a lot of people are wildly overestimating how common trust structures are. They're like a top fraction of a percent thing.
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:30 |
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Alchenar posted:1) You have to ignore the fact that in historic elections (1997, 1992 etc) the Labour vote was overstated and pollsters 'adjusted' then. There is a historic trend of pollsters overestimating Labour support. If you'd like another, more general, report: http://eprints.ncrm.ac.uk/3789/1/Report_final_revised.pdf This time, at least, we're moving to completely new models of poll weighting which should produce better results.
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:32 |
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sebzilla posted:How did you kill her? i should have got a greater share of the inheritance imo since i'm the reason everybody got any at all
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:32 |
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Don't worry guys, the Tories will add new entertaining activities for seniors in nursing homes, such as "X-TREME stairwell skipping with wheelchair"
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:48 |
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Pochoclo posted:Don't worry guys, the Tories will add new entertaining activities for seniors in nursing homes, such as "X-TREME stairwell skipping with wheelchair" Seems unlikely, would be against the interests of the all powerful care home/private landlord cartel
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:51 |
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Are people actually complaining about inheritance stuff in the UKMT? In what way?
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:53 |
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pointsofdata posted:Seems unlikely, would be against the interests of the all powerful care home/private landlord cartel They'll balance the books somehow - have the family pay 30% of what the care is projected to cost overall to murder the sick olds, or something. You can count on the tories to find a win/win scenario like that.
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:54 |
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Hoops posted:Are people actually complaining about inheritance stuff in the UKMT? In what way? that the new rules the tories want will gently caress over everyone who isn't rich and needs their family to go into care also https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/...r%3D445%23pti37
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# ? May 19, 2017 20:56 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAtwA0iOipw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcZc99YQCE8 Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 21:19 on May 19, 2017 |
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pointsofdata posted:Also I think a lot of people are wildly overestimating how common trust structures are. They're like a top fraction of a percent thing. lol no. My property is in a trust vehicle and I am not "rich".
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Hoops posted:Are people actually complaining about inheritance stuff in the UKMT? In what way? - Bad or alternatively - A thing socialists should be in favour of because lateral violence towards the families of sick people is in fact Good and not For Tories.
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# ? May 19, 2017 21:25 |
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Hoops posted:Are people actually complaining about inheritance stuff in the UKMT? In what way? The new rules sound good if the rest of society was fixed at the same time. The reality is an attempt to wreck the middleclass so they're as desperate and powerless as the workingclass. This is only a victory in the most puerile petty way. Nothing has got better, just more people are feeling what it's like to be a pleb in the UK. There is an argument for accelerationism except that is normally looked down upon. And we've seen time and again that voters don't make rational decisions. The idea that if we make everyone suffer equally then we'll get our socialist utopia is a very dangerous one. They might just vote in Hitler II instead.
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# ? May 19, 2017 21:27 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:The new rules sound good if the rest of society was fixed at the same time. The reality is an attempt to wreck the middleclass so they're as desperate and powerless as the workingclass. This is only a victory in the most puerile petty way. Nothing has got better, just more people are feeling what it's like to be a pleb in the UK. There is an argument for accelerationism except that is normally looked down upon. And we've seen time and again that voters don't make rational decisions. The idea that if we make everyone suffer equally then we'll get our socialist utopia is a very dangerous one. They might just vote in Hitler II instead. To be absolutely fair, this policy is better for the families of people who go into residential care.
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# ? May 19, 2017 21:32 |
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pointsofdata posted:Also I think a lot of people are wildly overestimating how common trust structures are. They're like a top fraction of a percent thing. I think it's more instructive to consider what value of inherited assets might be passed into trust, as a percentage of total inherited wealth, rather than the number of trust structures themselves.
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# ? May 19, 2017 21:43 |
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BBC has a good write up of some of the future problems with the social care policy. For example, what prevents you releasing equity from your home and spending the cash? Then when you die the equity-release company has first dibs on your house and the government loses out. Or, could you be your parent's carer and pay yourself out of the value of their house? There's a lot of questions.
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# ? May 19, 2017 21:57 |
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Guavanaut posted:
My local Tesco has ghee and this is a p white area of the country. Shouldn't be too hard to find in the UK tbh.
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# ? May 19, 2017 21:59 |
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Jose posted:that the new rules the tories want will gently caress over everyone who isn't rich and needs their family to go into care https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/12307023966240768
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:05 |
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I'm not really sure what your point is with this
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:08 |
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jabby posted:Or, could you be your parent's carer and pay yourself out of the value of their house? There's a lot of questions. I was wondering if it was meant to dovetail with the 'lol just don't work for a year' policy somehow
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:12 |
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I too remember when Assange & Wikileaks had credibility and weren't just Russian stooges
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:15 |
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MikeCrotch posted:I too remember when Assange & Wikileaks had credibility and weren't just Russian stooges Can you prove wikileaks arent Russian stooges or do you just parrot whatever you say from legacy media?
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:20 |
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Can you prove wikileaks arent Russian stooges or do you just parrot whatever you say from legacy media? Can you read?
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:24 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Can you read? I'm actually blind I have my guide dog read me the posts and I describe what I want posted
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:26 |
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The Telegraph have released an 'exclusive' on Corbyn, turns out MI5 had a file on him. As far as I can tell the rest of the article is just a summary of all the times he's quasi-supported the IRA or shared platforms with unpleasant people. Personally I think it lends credence to the idea that they don't really have any more big ammunition against Corbyn. I'm sure they are keeping something back for near polling day, but I think the IRA stuff has already been 'priced in' as it were.
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:27 |
I would assume that like the stasi they will have files on everyone.
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:30 |
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jabby posted:The Telegraph have released an 'exclusive' on Corbyn, turns out MI5 had a file on him. As far as I can tell the rest of the article is just a summary of all the times he's quasi-supported the IRA or shared platforms with unpleasant people. I have it on good authority that Corbyn helped the IRA smuggle guns and budgies
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:31 |
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:I have it on good authority that Corbyn helped the IRA smuggle guns and budgies You mess with the cockatoo you get the glockatoo
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:47 |
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I will miss you guys after May bans the internet
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:50 |
After Thatcher's ban on video nasties it only fits for May to go one better and ban something awful.
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# ? May 19, 2017 22:50 |
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MikeCrotch posted:I too remember when Assange & Wikileaks had credibility and weren't just Russian stooges Was this before or after Corbyn was paid to go on Russia Today?
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# ? May 19, 2017 23:09 |
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Jose posted:I hope you've got a VPN ready since they blocked sa im getting an expressvpn equipped router
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# ? May 19, 2017 23:16 |
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Looks like Labour is in a muddle about Trident https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/865689611355340800
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# ? May 19, 2017 23:30 |
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Goons, I will be in the Question Time audience this coming Thursday.
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# ? May 19, 2017 23:40 |