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Randarkman posted:I mean they coudld have just cut straight to them going to hypersleep and revealing Walter as David (what a surprise that was!). And Donald Glover and his lady friend didn't even have to die. Donald Glover wasn't in the movie
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Why do they have to be superstrong? Ian Holm wasn't super strong. He did try to kill Ripley with a porno mag though.Power of Pecota posted:Donald Glover wasn't in the movie Oh, that's embarassing. Thought it looked kind of like him. Then again it's been a while since I saw him on Community.
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ruddiger posted:I also appreciate how impotent the guns were in this. Those guys peppering the alien in the wheat field got their poo poo wrecked, and the only reason why Crudup was able to drop one was because David horse whispered it into a lull which allowed him to line up his shot, and EVEN THEN, he still had to mag dump on the loving thing because it was still thrashing after. Really hammers home the unchecked male wish fulfillment in Aliens (re: an enemy "worthy" of getting the full brunt of our technology for war). That's a good point - obviously this movie didn't bother with dressing up existing guns as 'future guns.' It's almost like they got a deal borrowing another movie's prop arms locker. Most of the weapons didn't even match up, unless this is truly a libertarian paradise and everyone had to "BYOG."
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BIG HEADLINE posted:That's a good point - obviously this movie didn't bother with dressing up existing guns as 'future guns.' It's almost like they got a deal borrowing another movie's prop arms locker. Most of the weapons didn't even match up, unless this is truly a libertarian paradise and everyone had to "BYOG." It was kind of weird they all had guns and some limited gun training. Even the scientists. They didn't even explain why they were all armed on the expedition. Also, walter got a gun and never shot it. Wasted opportunity.
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Shaocaholica posted:It was kind of weird they all had guns and some limited gun training. Even the scientists. They didn't even explain why they were all armed on the expedition. Also, walter got a gun and never shot it. Wasted opportunity. I don't think that needs to be explained. They are going to colonize a foreign world that presumably can support life. It's not a bad thing to know how to shoot something in that case.
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They would also expect the planet to be host to some kind of animal life, that they could shoot and eat of course.
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I mean they probably had at least a trillion of weyland-yutani assets. Gotta protect them from SPACE PIRATES
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Tenzarin posted:They would also expect the planet to be host to some kind of animal life, that they could shoot and eat of course. It did support animal life. It's a shame no one got to eat Neomorph meat.
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Ted Nugent would.
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I agree a lot with this http://www.avclub.com/live/does-alien-covenant-justify-its-own-existence-255505/entry/818
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Tenzarin posted:That's a nice opinion you have. Each snipe at Prometheus shorter than the last, it's happening... 
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Baronjutter posted:I want alien to be more Lovecraft and less late season Battlestar or lost. Yeah, Lovecraft was all about "stupefying gulfs of time" being terrifying in their own right, and the derelict having been there for that long is just plain scarier than it having crash-landed last Wednesday. Or to put it another way: Phi230 posted:Because old things are spooky
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Randarkman posted:Why do they have to be superstrong? Ian Holm wasn't super strong. He did try to kill Ripley with a porno mag though. I thought Parker resorted to braining him with the fire extinguisher because Ash threw him and Lambert off easily when they tried to intervene (though maybe not exactly super strength levels, dunno?) Parker was the hero we deserved in the Alien franchise. And everything could have been averted if they'd listened to him and just frozen Kane. And I'm not quoting that really long post from page 200, but with what happened to Lambert, I thought her screaming went on so long b/c the Alien essentially went with the 'If it won't fit I'll make it fit' approach with trying to drag her into the vent (you see her leg dangling out when Ripley goes in there, right?)
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Tenzarin posted:Sucks there's no more sarcasm tags. I think folks already know you're a joke.
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What was the deal with casting James Franco? Seems weird to cast a big star for a small role.
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Neo Rasa posted:I think folks already know you're a joke. Ouch buddy. Jose Oquendo posted:What was the deal with casting James Franco? Seems weird to cast a big star for a small role. People sure love complaining about it.
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Hakkesshu posted:I honestly really like the idea that humanity created a machine so immoral that it itself created a being that is essentially destruction made physical. There's a real good dramatic irony there, even if it does remove any sense of mystery. And then for humanity, in the form of corporate interests, to seek to capture and weaponize said machine. It really is elegant. ImpAtom posted:Yes. When something is defined by being mysterious and unknowable ("Alien" if you will) then the more you make it understandable and defined the less interesting it becomes. It actively devalues the themes and execution so that you can go to Alienpedia and make sure to note the exact details of the creature's history. I didn't like Prometheus at the time and was very disappointed. I've watched it a couple more times since then and I can appreciate what it's going for, although I still find it flawed (loving Lindelof). But I really loved Covenant and I'm really taken by the thematic grandeur of these new stories. They're weird and delightful. I can appreciate Alien as a standalone 1979 film with all of the unknowability of the Space Jockey and the alien intact--how the film's premise enhances the cosmicism and reinforces its title. It's essentially the best Lovecraft film that will ever be made. But these new additions to the franchise are really rich in what they imply, and I can enjoy what they bring to the franchise simultaneously. I guess I'm trying to say that you can have your headcanon and eat it too. It works both ways!
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Tenzarin posted:People sure love complaining about it. Hey, watching him burn to death was one of the more enjoyable parts of the movie!
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Julio Cruz posted:Why bother? Especially as he'd need to have used Walter's codes while Daniels and Tennessee were still around to keep his cover. I think he's more interested in watching how it adapts to tracking prey. It's basically free fieldwork for him.
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Tenzarin posted:Why did they zip tie his hands after he was dead and burnt up anyway? So they don't flop around in zero g?
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Shaocaholica posted:It was kind of weird they all had guns and some limited gun training. Even the scientists. They didn't even explain why they were all armed on the expedition. Manifest Destiny, you don't go traipsing out into the great unknown lands of the native without grandpa's blunderbuss.
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ruddiger posted:Manifest Destiny, you don't go traipsing out into the great unknown lands of the native without grandpa's blunderbuss. This assumes they are expecting hazardous life forms which I'm not sure at this point in the world have ever been documented. The Prometheus mission didn't go that far. If the prometheus mission were as armed they'd still be around but I digress.
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Despera posted:Think what Somali pirates would do to the covenant Man that would be a funny movie about flying your interstellar colony ship so close to Somali that pirates in boats would be able to board it.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:It's because the movie wasn't that good and we're remembering stuff we liked from the other movies and trying to use that as a salve for having spent $12-15+ and two hours of our lives we'll never get back. Or perhaps it is simply that many people did not go to see a new movie, but for commentary on their imaginings of 38 year old movie.
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Despera posted:The first xeno was one of Scott's best action scenes. Everything with the second was pointless and the weakest part of the movie. Yeah the lander sequence is intense and brutal and it's so disappointing the movie peaked there and nothing lived up to it. The movie could have ramped up the tension in the sequences in David's house or back on the ship but no, most of the characters just get killed standing around
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Groovelord Neato posted:what a frustrating movie. some amazing scenes but the overall product is a loving mess. and woof those creature effects. Yeah not much to add to that. It just felt like a generic slasher movie most of the time.
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Guys, GUYS. I'm in the theatre for an Alien movie RIGHT NOW. Holy poo poo. I hope it's good!  Real talk, the theatre is pretty empty, but it's also like 6PM. I don't usually go to the theatre on opening day (or right after work). Randarkman posted:Why do they have to be superstrong? Ian Holm wasn't super strong. He did try to kill Ripley with a porno mag though. Ash was superstrong, watch what happens when Parker grabs him and tries to get him off Ripley. Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 20, 2017 |
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Xenomrph posted:Guys, GUYS. Yeah, the entire reason he gets his head smashed off is because nobody can actually drag him off Ripley.
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I'd imagine the reason they're super strong is that even in simulated near-1G gravity, humans are going to lose muscle mass, and having something you can tell to go pick up or move something heavy because its muscle power stays constant is going to be pretty useful.
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Xenomrph posted:Guys, GUYS. I was in that same situation a few hours ago. Still not sure how I feel about the film. It was rather bizarre. Now I need to go back and read all the spoiler posts I skipped here, to keep from repeating what I'm sure are the exact same questions everyone else had.
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Just got out of the theater. I liked it a lot, but I need to process it a little bit before I can decide if its better than Prometheus. I did appreciate the more subtle nod to Lawrence of Arabia, considering that element was very explicit last time around.
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MrMojok posted:Now I need to go back and read all the spoiler posts I skipped here, to keep from repeating what I'm sure are the exact same questions everyone else had. Ask away.
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