Selachian posted:Isn't the second one Cap decapitating (ha) Baron Blood? Not so much killing as re-deadifying. Yeah vampires are a grey area, but still.
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Wanderer posted:If I remember correctly, the "no killing" rule was one of Jim Shooter's editorial edicts, and for the non-X-Men part of the Marvel Universe, it survived into the Tom DeFalco era through plot momentum. maybe it was shooter but it definitely felt like gruenwald actually believed that and wanted to push it
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May 20, 2017 03:35
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Lurdiak posted:That's because marketing is laser focused on them and readers have been trained to believe they "matter" more than regular books. Arguably they matter less because the biggest events often just reset the whole universe. It sound dramatic and all, but when the resolution is "And nothing actually changed because everything was always just this way now" then why fuss about the event in the first place, just start reading the new continuity because the big thing literally never happened. Except when it comes back for a second round.
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May 20, 2017 04:02
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Lurdiak posted:Jim Shooter was such a rube. Agreed but you have to admit there was a lot of really great stuff coming out from Marvel when he was Editor in Chief. Daredevil, X-Men, Thor, Moon Knight, Fantastic Four, New Mutants and...um... Actually never mind cause that's about it.
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May 20, 2017 05:32
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The completely random and dumb thing that I remember about Operation Galactic Storm was the fight scene between some of the Avengers and the Kree... I don't remember what they were even called. The Shiar obviously have their Imperial Guard of (depending on your perspective) kind of hilarious Legion of Superheroes knock offs but the Kree never had anything like that -- they had the Accusers who were boring and like the Sentry robots who were even more boring. Someone during the course of writing that mess of a story decided that they needed a Winter Guard style team of 'Hey We Have Superheroes Too, See' Crossover fodder and so they introduced a very 90s collection of assorted superpowered Kree. One of them introduced himself as a 'Kree Eternal' which doesn't really make any kind of sense even in the extremely stretchable Marvel continuity.
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NorgLyle posted:The completely random and dumb thing that I remember about Operation Galactic Storm was the fight scene between some of the Avengers and the Kree... I don't remember what they were even called. The Shiar obviously have their Imperial Guard of (depending on your perspective) kind of hilarious Legion of Superheroes knock offs but the Kree never had anything like that -- they had the Accusers who were boring and like the Sentry robots who were even more boring. Someone during the course of writing that mess of a story decided that they needed a Winter Guard style team of 'Hey We Have Superheroes Too, See' Crossover fodder and so they introduced a very 90s collection of assorted superpowered Kree. One of them introduced himself as a 'Kree Eternal' which doesn't really make any kind of sense even in the extremely stretchable Marvel continuity. How can you forget the memorable characters involved in Galactic Storm when they were immortalized in the greatest game of all time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWwbcnVOQk&t=1932s
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May 20, 2017 06:12
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Lurdiak posted:Yeah vampires are a grey area, but still. Cap will kill a Vampire without a second's notice. Just ask Jubilee about that time he took her Vampire hunting.
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May 20, 2017 06:55
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At the beginning of Brubaker's Cap run Cap kills several bad guys and when Sharon bitches at him about it he's all, "Oh, you mean those terrorists who were about to kill thousands with a chemical attack? Those guys?"
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May 20, 2017 07:20
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Lurdiak posted:How can you forget the memorable characters involved in Galactic Storm when they were immortalized in the greatest game of all time. Really did not expect to see the Best Friends popping up in this thread, but very happy that they are. Also those designs are ludicrously outdated for their time. Was this supposed to be the nineties?
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May 20, 2017 07:37
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What do you remember the 90s being like, because I remember a whole lot of boring Kree characters looking exactly like that.
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May 20, 2017 07:40
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My sum experience of comics in the 90s was like 3 issues of Spawn and the Marvel and Batman cartoons. And uh, Sonic The Comic.
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The early 90s were actually even worse visually than the SPIKEGAR THE MUTILATOR stuff people love to make fun of from slightly later in the decade, because the big two combined the trending gritty overmuscular image aesthetic with leftover 80s costume tackiness, leading to pages like this.
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May 20, 2017 07:52
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I know why there are two Captain Americas, but did they both need to bring a Rick Jones?
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May 20, 2017 08:09
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NorgLyle posted:The completely random and dumb thing that I remember about Operation Galactic Storm was the fight scene between some of the Avengers and the Kree... I don't remember what they were even called. The Shiar obviously have their Imperial Guard of (depending on your perspective) kind of hilarious Legion of Superheroes knock offs but the Kree never had anything like that -- they had the Accusers who were boring and like the Sentry robots who were even more boring. Someone during the course of writing that mess of a story decided that they needed a Winter Guard style team of 'Hey We Have Superheroes Too, See' Crossover fodder and so they introduced a very 90s collection of assorted superpowered Kree. One of them introduced himself as a 'Kree Eternal' which doesn't really make any kind of sense even in the extremely stretchable Marvel continuity. I remember my grandma giving me a random middle chapter of Operation Galactic Storm where Iron Man fought a guy called Shatterax. Even in my giddy childhood excitement at having any new comic at all I instinctively knew that that scrub did not matter to anybody.
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May 20, 2017 08:27
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Ghostlight posted:I know why there are two Captain Americas, but did they both need to bring a Rick Jones? Everybody needs friends.
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Lurdiak posted:The early 90s were actually even worse visually than the SPIKEGAR THE MUTILATOR stuff people love to make fun of from slightly later in the decade, because the big two combined the trending gritty overmuscular image aesthetic with leftover 80s costume tackiness, leading to pages like this. I can't take my eyes of Black Widow. Her head looks like it's at half-scale too her body.
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May 20, 2017 11:57
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The 90's were a crazy time. The drugs, the women, their heads.
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May 20, 2017 12:01
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Operation Galactic Storm was a million issues too long and I'm saying that as someone who read the full thing on MU. Could not imagine how interminable it would have felt reading through it as it was actually being released. But it did have at least one bright spot. As kid I happened upon the issue where Masterson Thor fights Gladiator. That was a great fight and I would still remember it years later when I came across that kind of action in DBZ.
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Lobok posted:But it did have at least one bright spot. As kid I happened upon the issue where Masterson Thor fights Gladiator. That was a great fight and I would still remember it years later when I came across that kind of action in DBZ. 
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Lurdiak posted:What do you remember the 90s being like... Lots of cross hatching.
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Lurdiak posted:The early 90s were actually even worse visually than the SPIKEGAR THE MUTILATOR stuff people love to make fun of from slightly later in the decade, because the big two combined the trending gritty overmuscular image aesthetic with leftover 80s costume tackiness, leading to pages like this. That's Nick Fury? He looks like Dirk Anger got swole. Which is kinda the point of Dirk, sure, but it's not a good look.
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sbaldrick posted:I love Galactic Storm, maybe the first really great Marvel space story. I'd just like to point out that this is an opinion that was expressed in a universe where Nextwave exists.
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May 20, 2017 16:03
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So I was wrong about Galactic Storm as it is it takes place a lot later then I expected, so I was wrong about. Monica was the worst character in Nextwave.
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May 20, 2017 16:28
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Counterpoint: There are no Worst Characters in Nextwave. It is perfection in comic format. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuosmf1_mKs
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Nextwave is good because there are still a few things I like about Transmetropolitan so it's nice to have a different Warren Ellis Project With the Most Insufferable Fans
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Edge & Christian posted:Nextwave is good because there are still a few things I like about Transmetropolitan so it's nice to have a different Warren Ellis Project With the Most Insufferable Fans E&C we don't always see eye to eye but on this we are as one
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Well Mantis led to a really long interesting discussion. I don't think the next will do as well, but here we go. Day 60: Gatecrasher Recently surfacing in the new Rocket Raccoon heist series by Al Ewing (read it, it's great) we have Gatecrasher. Appearing in Excalibur, Gatecrasher was the lead of group known as Technet. Technet was a sizeable team of bounty hunters with a wide range of abilities and skills. Most of them seem to be involved in this run of Rocket Raccoon and the team seems to be split now with half still siding with Gatecrasher and half with Rocket Raccoon as they both are targeting the same score.  
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Love the Technet.
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Uh is Gatecrasher a Male or Female. I can't tell, but am kind of leaning female.
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Dude, look at them. Why do you think binary gender even applies in this situation?
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May 20, 2017 23:35
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Gatecrasher is female.
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May 20, 2017 23:42
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Gatecrasher also did great work as the queen in Final Fantasy IX.
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Gatecrasher is awesome. All those Davis villains in that Excalibur run are awesome.
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I've fallen off listening to Jay & Miles Xplain the X-Men, but hell yeah I recognize a minor recurring character from the late Eighties. It turns out that's 90% of the stuff that needs Xplaining. As I recall, Technet are interdimensional bounty hunters with a frequently shifting membership and they form a rivalry with their future selves.
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Gatecrasher is great, Technet is great, this is inarguable. Alan Davis designs help a lot.
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8"3" 1111 lbs I think that was the girl who just left my place I met at the bar.
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I'm confused and slightly angry that this doesn't appear to be the same incredibly fat blue alien bounty hunter Deadpool briefly dated.
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Ghostlight posted:I know why there are two Captain Americas, but did they both need to bring a Rick Jones?
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Wow. That is a terrible re-design. Who is the woman standing next to Iron Man/Or possibly War Machine, on the right?
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Deptfordx posted:Wow. That is a terrible re-design. I think Sersi. I hated that costume if only because at first glance you'd think she was the scarlet witch with a black dye job.
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