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Lightning Lord posted:So what are the odds that this leads to the US just cutting ties with Israel and the rest of the ME flattening the nation, leading all the Nazis in other nations to feel fully safe that they won't be Mossaded if they try to do their Nazi thing? Pretty much zero? I really can't see a scenario where the US somehow managing to be the instigating party in loving up intelligence relations with Israel becomes the reason they cut ties. Then again, Trump.
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Lightning Lord posted:So what are the odds that this leads to the US just cutting ties with Israel and the rest of the ME flattening the nation, leading all the Nazis in other nations to feel fully safe that they won't be Mossaded if they try to do their Nazi thing? I don't think the rest of the middle east could flatten Israel. Also remember Israel has a nuclear deterrent, so it would mean Riyadh, Tehran, Mecca, Cairo etc getting a-bombed. They could all launch some grand suicide attack against Israel but why would they? I don't think they hate the Jews that much.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:It's all falling apart for him. That's okay, he can salvage this. He just needs something that would serve as a massive distraction while allowing him to rally the people behind him. It's been a while since Gaza has last been bombed, hasn't it?
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Lightning Lord posted:So what are the odds that this leads to the US just cutting ties with Israel and the rest of the ME flattening the nation, leading all the Nazis in other nations to feel fully safe that they won't be Mossaded if they try to do their Nazi thing? Absolutely none. Trump has much bigger problems than Bibi rear end-covering at his expense, and Congress are unlikely to want to draw much attention to the political minefield that the US-Israel relationship has become in recent years. Besides, it's doubtful that the rest of the Middle East has either the ability or will to go to war with Israel, whose advanced military (equipped with free top-of-the-line hardware from the US and Europe) is nothing to sneeze at even if you ignore their nuclear deterrent. And if Mossad was doing anything to scare Nazis, there probably wouldn't be openly neo-Nazi and neo-fascist parties gaining ground in practically every major country and a whole pile of minor ones.
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Lightning Lord posted:So what are the odds that this leads to the US just cutting ties with Israel and the rest of the ME flattening the nation, leading all the Nazis in other nations to feel fully safe that they won't be Mossaded if they try to do their Nazi thing? Zero. Who's going to attack Israel? Egypt? It's military is busy keeping al Sisi in power. Lebanon? It's most powerful forces are propping up Assad. Syria? Civil War. Yemen? Dito Iraq? Dito. Turkey? Busy bungling things in Syria. Iran? Busy winning in Iraq and making good progress in Syria. Saudi Arabia? Embarassing themselves by bring unable to beat the Houthis. UAE, Qatar, Bahrain etc.? Meddling in Syria, Yemen and the like. Jordan? Reliefed that they are relatively stable right now. And even if they were not busy tearing each other to shreds, the recent embarassing performances of both the Turkish and especially the Saudi armed forced makes me conclude that Iran is the only country with competent troops in any appreciative numbers in the region, and they would still be no match for the IDF. Not to mention the nuclear deterrent. Israel is safe.
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Ya'alon (IDF chief of staff at the time) has said that if there is definitely something there with the submarine story and if charges aren't brought forth he'll go public with everything he knows and has told the cops. Other than that I haven't heard anything.
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Lightning Lord posted:So what are the odds that this leads to the US just cutting ties with Israel and the rest of the ME flattening the nation, leading all the Nazis in other nations to feel fully safe that they won't be Mossaded if they try to do their Nazi thing? The Arab nations couldn't coordinate to fight Israel in any previous war, so it would be amazing if somehow an even more divided middle east did it now - in any event, there's the Samson option. Additionally, the US will probably never fully abandon Israel and Israel is ludicrously more powerful than any nation closeby.
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Foreign policy says that Israeli intelligence is way angrier about the Trump leak to Russia than official sources have expressed publicly. Additionally, Trump's leak has wider implications than ISIS:quote:The details Trump spilled likely came from a source that was also useful on Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and its Hezbollah proxies in Syria and Lebanon, which are much higher priorities for Israel, the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said. quote:Daniel Kurtzer, a former U.S. ambassador to Israel, said when Trump sits down with Israeli and Palestinian leaders next week, his counterparts may be reluctant to share sensitive diplomatic stances with a president known for his lack of discretion, he told FP.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Belay that: according to the NYT, Israel is the source of the information Trump leaked. This basically means that Netanyahu, who tied himself to good relations with Trump rewarding Israel, has lost both the right-wingers (because suddenly he's talking like any other President as far as the West Bank is concerned) and the security people. Yaa'on, Netanyahu's former defense minister and former IDF chief of staff is ready to talk about the submarine misdeeds if no charges are brought. It's all falling apart for him. i really feel bad for netanyahu. oh wait no I don't.
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Kurtofan posted:i really feel bad for netanyahu. oh wait no I don't. It sure would suck for Bibi if he had recently pissed off one of the US's two parties, leaving him with little choice but to suck up to the other party no matter what! 
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The Israel right is probably pretty down. They've made the Democrats much less Israel friendly in order to buddy up with the Republicans, but Trump wants Netanyahu to pause with settlement building and doesn't want to move the embassy to Jerusalem until there's peace with the Palestinians. And now they can't even really retaliate for the leak, because as bad as the is, Trumps is likely still better for them than any Democrat. At least there's still the very real possibility that he once again changes his mind and becomes the biggest Israel supporter. By the way, I can't believe Avshalom has finally been permabanned 
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Gay Horney posted:What did avshalom do?? Giving the Secret Service an excuse to call up Lowtax. avs why 
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Self immolation by the best of us in this of all threads
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Polygynous posted:Giving the Secret Service an excuse to call up Lowtax. Most people flicker out. Avshalom went out in a furious blaze that threatened to incinerate this dead gay comedy forum.
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Office Pig posted:Most people flicker out. Avshalom went out in a furious blaze that threatened to incinerate this dead gay comedy forum. His schtick was dumb and I'm glad he's gone.
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TildeATH posted:His schtick was dumb and I'm glad he's gone. her. and the rest of what you said is wrong too
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Guy Goodbody posted:her. and the rest of what you said is wrong too Yeah his clamshell was so feminine and Jewish right?
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TildeATH posted:Yeah his clamshell was so feminine and Jewish right? Jealousy is unbecoming.
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TildeATH posted:His schtick was dumb and I'm glad he's gone.
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Avshalom helped many chicken keepers spoil and pamper their girls.
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FlamingLiberal posted:This; half the time I would check this thread because there would be new posts and it would be a weird-rear end Av post TildeATH posted:His schtick was dumb and I'm glad he's gone. Now the antisemites show their true colors.
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Avshalom posted:Edit :/  change thread to avshalom memorial solution station
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RIP Avshalom Feb 14, 2012 - May 20, 2017 Executed for having written the best fanfiction about Zombie Ariel Sharon devouring corrupt conmen
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Hamas changing its charter, elections in Palestine, various scandals and everyday violence in Israel: 0,5 posts a day Avshalom getting perma'd: 12 immediate responses
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Avshalom's posts had a greater chance of bringing peace between Israel and Palestine than Hamas changing its charter, Palestinian elections, or Netanyahu's corruption being exposed for all to see.
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Avshalom posted:Edit :/ lol Flowers For Algeria posted:Hamas changing its charter, elections in Palestine, various scandals and everyday violence in Israel: 0,5 posts a day This is pretty funny too.
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Rip one of the best threads in Pet Island.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Hamas changing its charter, elections in Palestine, various scandals and everyday violence in Israel: 0,5 posts a day Goons know what's truly important in life.
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Dang dude whoever bought me the red text should have focused, it's like the fifth season of Grimm over there.
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TildeATH posted:Dang dude whoever bought me the red text should have focused, it's like the fifth season of Grimm over there. RIP Aurora Av
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Has anybody hear listened to the Martyrmade Podcast? It seems pretty good to me but I don't know poo poo about anything so he could be making it all up.
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Well, no reason to keep track of this thread anymore. Sad times.
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Avshalom's gimmick was funny when done every once in a while but, like most gimmicks, she ended up overdoing it and wearing it out. In on-topic news, Bibi has been forced to yell at his cabinet because he found out most of them were planning to skip Trump's arrival, apparently annoyed by scheduling changes. The Trump visit is going to be magical, I just know it.
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Main Paineframe posted:In on-topic news, Bibi has been forced to yell at his cabinet because he found out most of them were planning to skip Trump's arrival, apparently annoyed by scheduling changes. The Trump visit is going to be magical, I just know it. Can't find it in English, but the latest story is that a lot of second-stringers basically crashed the event, instead. Foreign ministry staff tried to keep them away, but a bunch of small-town mayors and at least one scandal-laden Knesset member managed to squeeze in and shake Trump's hand and take selfies with him.
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