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I'm a little confused at the ending. It seemed like Matt's conversation with "God" sort of broke him. But then at the end when the lion eats "God", that has to only reinforce Matt's views, right? I mean he was reading straight from the Book of Daniel on the plane.
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Niwrad posted:It feels like Season 1 and 2 would have been the time for them to win them for. Justin Theroux is great but it's an 8 episode season and he hasn't appeared in two of the episodes so far. International Assassin is the best thing I've ever seen on TV.
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May 18, 2017 00:37
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Niwrad posted:I'm a little confused at the ending. It seemed like Matt's conversation with "God" sort of broke him. But then at the end when the lion eats "God", that has to only reinforce Matt's views, right? I mean he was reading straight from the Book of Daniel on the plane. He says "Thats the guy I was telling you about." He's has been telling people about god his entire life.
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May 18, 2017 00:53
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Niwrad posted:I'm a little confused at the ending. It seemed like Matt's conversation with "God" sort of broke him. But then at the end when the lion eats "God", that has to only reinforce Matt's views, right? I mean he was reading straight from the Book of Daniel on the plane. It didn't break Matt, it freed him.
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May 18, 2017 01:06
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Niwrad posted:I'm a little confused at the ending. It seemed like Matt's conversation with "God" sort of broke him. But then at the end when the lion eats "God", that has to only reinforce Matt's views, right? I mean he was reading straight from the Book of Daniel on the plane. David Burton is not literally God, but he plays the role of God in their conversation to Matt's Job. 'I did the Departure because I could' is The Leftovers equivalent of "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?" It's only after Matt accepts that he's never going to understand why things happen the way they do that he's free to live his own life, without constantly searching for signs or trying to interpret what God wants him to do next. God is loving God, if they want Matt back in Miracle on the 14th, he's going to be back in Miracle on the 14th. If he isn't, God must not have wanted him there. In giving up that need to understand the nature and will of something that is inherently impossible to understand, he has placed his faith back in God. And then his faith is promptly rewarded through A) a bunch of fishermen vindicating his account of Burton did and B) Burton getting mauled by a Lion. The Lord works in mysterious ways.
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May 18, 2017 01:36
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Just realized that Carlton Cuse's son Nick is a writer on this show.
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:David Burton is not literally God, but he plays the role of God in their conversation to Matt's Job. 'I did the Departure because I could' is The Leftovers equivalent of "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?" It's only after Matt accepts that he's never going to understand why things happen the way they do that he's free to live his own life, without constantly searching for signs or trying to interpret what God wants him to do next. God is loving God, if they want Matt back in Miracle on the 14th, he's going to be back in Miracle on the 14th. If he isn't, God must not have wanted him there. In giving up that need to understand the nature and will of something that is inherently impossible to understand, he has placed his faith back in God. And then his faith is promptly rewarded through A) a bunch of fishermen vindicating his account of Burton did and B) Burton getting mauled by a Lion. The Lord works in mysterious ways. Not sure if he actually placed his faith back in God by the end, but like you said he's clearly given up needing to constantly interpret and then control everything. Lord Krangdar fucked around with this message at 04:54 on May 18, 2017 |
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May 18, 2017 04:38
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"I told Abraham to kill Issac to see what he would do" is one of the funniest lines I've heard in a show in a long time
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May 18, 2017 09:58
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Professor Shark posted:"I told Abraham to kill Issac to see what he would do" is one of the funniest lines I've heard in a show in a long time Yeah that one got a good laugh out of me
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May 18, 2017 12:45
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I imagine after the finale about 1/2 of this thread will be like: Matt's still the best character in the show though.
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May 18, 2017 17:47
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I think this thread has the most consistently positive poster opinions for any show in TV IV. Maybe up there with Better Call Saul and Fargo.
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May 18, 2017 18:41
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havin a good time chattin about this good show on the forums!
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May 18, 2017 19:48
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Probably has to do with nobody watching it and anybody that does appreciates the quality.
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May 18, 2017 20:00
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Rewatching the last episode, the dialog between Matt and God is great. When God keeps answering "why?" over and over it reminds me of when a therapist tries to help a client get to an understanding The therapist knows the answer but tries to elicit the understanding and have the client reach their own awareness.
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May 19, 2017 04:53
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I rewatched the episode tonight and just noticed that the French guy that sets off the bomb's name is Lyon.
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May 19, 2017 08:24
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HanabaL03 posted:Loved the episode. This is seemingly going to have two types of groups when the show ends: those that watch for the characters and those who want answers. Exactly like the 2 groups of people that either loved or hated the end of LOST. The problem with Lost was that the promise of some great revelation tying everything up was what kept the show's narrative moving forward, rather than strong scripts and performances. Leftovers has the latter in abundance so there never needs to be an 'answer', dropping one in at the end of the show would ruin it. Also, Matt episodes have gone from casinos and robbery -> holy roller RV camp and stocks -> insane lion sex cult orgy party boat and weird ritualistic jizz collection. Definitely an upward trend that makes me wonder what season 4 would have brought.
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The Insect Court posted:The problem with Lost was that the promise of some great revelation tying everything up was what kept the show's narrative moving forward, rather than strong scripts and performances. Leftovers has the latter in abundance so there never needs to be an 'answer', dropping one in at the end of the show would ruin it. Except, I think, an awful lot of people are actually expecting one -- even in this thread. I reckon a large part of how this series will be received over the next few years will depend on whether they try to give one or not.
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May 19, 2017 09:39
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When Leftovers is done, I hope Lindelof just writes small indie films or something in the style of "Two Boats and a Helicopter" instead of stuff like Tomorrowland. He's insanely good at the former and not quite so much the blockbustery stuff.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Except, I think, an awful lot of people are actually expecting one -- even in this thread.
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May 19, 2017 22:54
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The show is pretty heavily influenced by Picnic at Hanging Rock, which had an explanation at the end but then later had that chapter removed
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Professor Shark posted:The show is pretty heavily influenced by Picnic at Hanging Rock, which had an explanation at the end but then later had that chapter removed What was the explanation?
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:What was the explanation? It was sort of like that sequel to The Lady and the Tiger, it created more questions than answers
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May 20, 2017 00:09
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Hey, what if Nora is unwilling to acknowledge Kevin in that flash forward because he was accepted by those scientists and went through the machine, and she didn't? Maybe he had something to do with its destruction  Maybe him not dying extends to him trying the machine and it catastrophically failing and breaking for good.
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Raxivace posted:When Leftovers is done, I hope Lindelof just writes small indie films or something in the style of "Two Boats and a Helicopter" instead of stuff like Tomorrowland. He's insanely good at the former and not quite so much the blockbustery stuff. To be fair he has yet to work on a movie where he is given a high degree of freedom. Prometheus is probably the closest to his usual themes and even then he said he mainly came in and reworked the existing script based on what Ridley Scott wanted (more ambiguity, less direct Alien references) not what he wanted. quote:The problem with Lost was that the promise of some great revelation tying everything up was what kept the show's narrative moving forward, rather than strong scripts and performances. Leftovers has the latter in abundance so there never needs to be an 'answer', dropping one in at the end of the show would ruin it. Lost did tie together most of its mythology by the end, though. Of the main mysteries only the Dharma Initiative fell by the wayside in the final season. I remember when Lost ended the creators responded to the backlash by saying they tried to focus on giving closure to the characters, not to the mysteries. To me the show was neither driven by the characters or the mysteries. It was propelled by big, audacious, iconic moments. Lord Krangdar fucked around with this message at 05:51 on May 20, 2017 |
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May 20, 2017 05:45
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I hope we see more of the Season 2 hotel before this ends.
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May 20, 2017 06:24
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Is this the last season?
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Boris Galerkin posted:Is this the last season? Yes. And the only saving grace is that they were told this well before production started, so it won't be like a Deadwood sort of thing (just... Ending.) I mean, it might 'just end' but it'll at least be on Lindelof and Perrotta's terms, story wise.
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Lord Krangdar posted:To be fair he has yet to work on a movie where he is given a high degree of freedom. Prometheus is probably the closest to his usual themes and even then he said he mainly came in and reworked the existing script based on what Ridley Scott wanted (more ambiguity, less direct Alien references) not what he wanted.
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May 20, 2017 11:43
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No one is discussing the biggest revelation from the last episode: Kevin shits four times a day.
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clown shoes posted:No one is discussing the biggest revelation from the last episode: Kevin shits four times a day. I poo poo 3-6 times a day. Am I maybe Jesus too?
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In the words of Balki Bartokomous, "Well, feed me bran and call me regular."
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I can't believe no one has created a Balki Bartokomous quote generator online. The internet is such a letdown.
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So why is everyone so worried about this particular anniversary? Is it just because 7 is auspicious?
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May 21, 2017 01:28
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7 is a thing in the Bible esp book of Revelations
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May 21, 2017 01:44
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In the Leftovers Universe (I like to call it "The Leftoversverse") everybody is a huge Bungie fan.
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JethroMcB posted:In the Leftovers Universe (I like to call it "The Leftoversverse") everybody is a huge Bungie fan. Why would you not call it the Leftoverse
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El Jeffe posted:So why is everyone so worried about this particular anniversary? Is it just because 7 is auspicious? I could be wrong, but I believe the Bible says that 7 years after Rapture, everybody else gon' get judged. In terms of this show, I can see it being some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy, at least on the part of those closest to Matt.
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May 21, 2017 05:03
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What tattoo is misspelled on Kevin?
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Was Damon Lindelof the one who was really into The Dark Tower series? I wonder if they would pull something similar to its ending where the screen goes black and 30 seconds and gives viewers the opportunity to walk away and "let the mystery be" before showing where they went
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Multiple critics who have already seen this episode have stated that tonight's is one of the best of the series.
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