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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Mewnie posted:

Excuse me, it's

C L A S S I C A L

L I B E R A L.

oh yeah haha. like it's better to describe yourself as a political antique. i wonder if that's just the part of carl which desires intellectual authority without going through all the work of education and building a pundit's career so you just dress yourself up in half understood fancy language like you're some kind of stolen valor weirdo for academia

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Maybe he thinks that the Tory policy will disproportionately target leftists and Muslims and not people being smug and yelling about Cultural Marxism and the womz.

He's probably right too. :(

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If we actually could get him picked up by PREVENT it'd be pretty funny.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

I think these types want the government to take the internet and porn away. Like they're addicted, and need intervention.

S&J kind of said that in his video about Gamergaters. They yearn for more but are shackled to the internet

Mewnie
Apr 2, 2011

clean dogge
is a
happy dogge

boner confessor posted:

oh yeah haha. like it's better to describe yourself as a political antique. i wonder if that's just the part of carl which desires intellectual authority without going through all the work of education and building a pundit's career so you just dress yourself up in half understood fancy language like you're some kind of stolen valor weirdo for academia

Yeah, I've noticed that anyone that actually uses that term to describe themselves is in fact a giant shithead.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

They're saying that western liberalism has been stolen by the dirty progressives, that's all. Also trying to trick kids who don't understand political labels.

Apes-Ma
Aug 9, 2011

Your cage isn't getting any bigger.

Guavanaut posted:

Maybe he thinks that the Tory policy will disproportionately target leftists and Muslims and not people being smug and yelling about Cultural Marxism and the womz.

He's probably right too. :(

Wouldn't his income (his sole income, if I remember right) be affected by this too?

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Sargon, like the rest of the alt-right/rationalists, are short-sighted and spiteful fucks who will happily vote against their best interests to gently caress over the objects of their scorn.

... just like most right-wingers tbh.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

boner confessor posted:

oh yeah haha. like it's better to describe yourself as a political antique. i wonder if that's just the part of carl which desires intellectual authority without going through all the work of education and building a pundit's career so you just dress yourself up in half understood fancy language like you're some kind of stolen valor weirdo for academia

Well, dressing up as a political antique is a large part of what these people do.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tqXNHTxyIg

Looks like Thunderfoot got tired of Carlgon and co's saying horrible poo poo.

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013
And even then he couldn't stop himself from making jabs at Anita Sarkeesian and feminists.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Discendo Vox posted:

Well, dressing up as a political antique is a large part of what these people do.
I'm actually a Hobbesian monarchist who supports radical libertarian traditionalism and economic mercantilism. *shits self, rolls in poo poo yelling about muslim feminists*

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Fair Bear Maiden posted:

And even then he couldn't stop himself from making jabs at Anita Sarkeesian and feminists.

Not to mention that video is still 5 times too long.

I mean, I can appreciate what he's trying to say (even though he's still full of poo poo), but he takes way too fuckin' long.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Archer666 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tqXNHTxyIg

Looks like Thunderfoot got tired of Carlgon and co's saying horrible poo poo.

"Now stay tuned for my next video, 'Why I'm still going to make weekly videos about Anita Sarkessian.' "

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Archer666 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tqXNHTxyIg

Looks like Thunderfoot got tired of Carlgon and co's saying horrible poo poo.

Goddamn, this idiot honestly has no self-awareness, does he? Hes exactly the same as the people he's talking about. I don't even think he knows what "idealogy" even means, because he misuses it constantly.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Yeah, this was really weak, and this is coming from someone who would likely give him a chance if he seemed sincere, in a heartbeat.

He's not worried about the effect of his position or how they align with this bunch of vile creeps. He just doesn't want to have the infamy of sharing the boat with the chuckling edgelords. It's about image, not content.

Or maybe the Patreon money is drying up and he can't quite catch the loudest assholes, so he needs to figure out a new space to occupy. The "reasonable, non-Trumpster Skeptic" sect, if you please.

It just might have enough people to fill an average pool.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Sephyr posted:

Yeah, this was really weak, and this is coming from someone who would likely give him a chance if he seemed sincere, in a heartbeat.

He's not worried about the effect of his position or how they align with this bunch of vile creeps. He just doesn't want to have the infamy of sharing the boat with the chuckling edgelords. It's about image, not content.

Or maybe the Patreon money is drying up and he can't quite catch the loudest assholes, so he needs to figure out a new space to occupy. The "reasonable, non-Trumpster Skeptic" sect, if you please.

It just might have enough people to fill an average pool.

I have to wonder, given the mentions of his own father dying, if he feels this way purely because this is something that actually happened to him, like gay-friendly Republicans only because their kid is gay.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That whole "nonfunctional concept of empathy" thing again, one might think.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

mojo1701a posted:

I have to wonder, given the mentions of his own father dying, if he feels this way purely because this is something that actually happened to him, like gay-friendly Republicans only because their kid is gay.

Yeah, it's a bit weird. To go from "Look at these snowflakes, getting bitchy because they think words hurt! Get a thicker skin you pansies!" to "Abloo bloo they talked crap about my dead Daaaad! So much for the tolerant SJWs!" on a dime shouldn't surprise my anymore, but somehow it still does.

I mean, I get it. Like all movements, there are some embarrassing, aggressive people among progressives, feminists, socialists, you name it. People who will attack you personally, twist what you say, lie. It's called the human condition. But pretending that they are a big enough deal to justify an entire movement to counter them is just an insane level of wrong priorities, or just a sadistic glee in punching down.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
Thunderfoot make alot of money from his patreon, although he lost a lot of support for making anti brexit/trump videos (Thundercuck etc) he still makes 3k per video. That's far more than Sargon or Atheist make.

He can do stuff like jump off the rational crazy train or not even board it like with the trump madness because he can always fall back on his popular science videos.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Sephyr posted:

I mean, I get it. Like all movements, there are some embarrassing, aggressive people among progressives, feminists, socialists, you name it. People who will attack you personally, twist what you say, lie. It's called the human condition. But pretending that they are a big enough deal to justify an entire movement to counter them is just an insane level of wrong priorities, or just a sadistic glee in punching down.

That's why the best part of the video is his distancing himself from the Sarkeesian Effect. Not because of the subject matter or that it seemed absolutely ridiculous to make a "documentary" about video game feminism, but because Jordan Owen and Davis Aurini hosed it up and the ensuing drama.

Visidan posted:

Thunderfoot make alot of money from his patreon, although he lost a lot of support for making anti brexit/trump videos (Thundercuck etc) he still makes 3k per video. That's far more than Sargon or Atheist make.

He can do stuff like jump off the rational crazy train or not even board it like with the trump madness because he can always fall back on his popular science videos.

It really seems like he's Glenn Beck-ing himself. He'll be back to spewing bullshit ideas soon enough in videos that take five times as long as they should.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

The contemporary term for classical liberal is "bad Dem"

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe
Is this the thread to vent about my mom getting into Charles Murray because Sam Harris gave him a tonguebath? gently caress Sam Harris. Really, gently caress that guy.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

How did Charles Murray crawl back to relevance after his 90s heyday? He was an old gently caress peddling racist nonsense way back then. He should have died in disgrace years ago.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

business hammocks posted:

How did Charles Murray crawl back to relevance after his 90s heyday? He was an old gently caress peddling racist nonsense way back then. He should have died in disgrace years ago.

Protestors at one of his college talks gave the right wing press an opening to use him as a standard of "academic free speech".

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

business hammocks posted:

How did Charles Murray crawl back to relevance after his 90s heyday? He was an old gently caress peddling racist nonsense way back then. He should have died in disgrace years ago.

it's because racism is making a comeback in a big way and he's part of that package. He's part of the backlash idiot retard whites are having in their quest to harm everyone including themselves out of pure spite. because you see, why strike at the rich and powerful who are the ones ruining your life when you can lynch a poor black person or deport a mexican right next to you? Why listen to facts when you can just listen to the soothing voice of someone who tells you you're genetically superior? Why beleive in human rights and equality when you can just lash out and hurt people without solving your actual problem?

Sam Harris is a piece of poo poo animal.

Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 20:00 on May 22, 2017

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe

Discendo Vox posted:

Protestors at one of his college talks gave the right wing press an opening to use him as a standard of "academic free speech".

Yeah, if you're a white person with a self-described "contrarian streak," intellectual pretensions, and a desire to find forbidden truths in figures, you're on the hook for Murray's bullshit, and that poo poo is in vogue right now. I'm so loving pissed that my mom is getting pulled into it. That she's a humanities professor who got her PhD in the early 90s certainly has something to do with her growing affinity toward him.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Flip Yr Wig posted:

Yeah, if you're a white person with a self-described "contrarian streak," intellectual pretensions, and a desire to find forbidden truths in figures, you're on the hook for Murray's bullshit, and that poo poo is in vogue right now. I'm so loving pissed that my mom is getting pulled into it. That she's a humanities professor who got her PhD in the early 90s certainly has something to do with her growing affinity toward him.

have you tried doing research into Charles Murray and the critiques and debunking of his theories and had an honest sit down with your mom to explain to her how he's wrong in no uncertain terms?

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe

Al-Saqr posted:

have you tried doing research into Charles Murray and the critiques and debunking of his theories and had an honest sit down with your mom to explain to her how he's wrong in no uncertain terms?

The last time we got to talk about it, it wasn't really the time or place, though she said that her and my dad argue about it a lot, and he's pretty capable of taking those arguments down. Her main response to me is that I can't speak to the arguments unless I read the Bell Curve myself and listen to Sam Harris' podcast. And Christ alive, life is too short.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Flip Yr Wig posted:

The last time we got to talk about it, it wasn't really the time or place, though she said that her and my dad argue about it a lot, and he's pretty capable of taking those arguments down. Her main response to me is that I can't speak to the arguments unless I read the Bell Curve myself and listen to Sam Harris' podcast. And Christ alive, life is too short.

I've read it. There's very little to even attempt to defend.

Sax Solo
Feb 18, 2011



The appeal of Murray is the idea that he seems to prove:
Dumb <=> Poor <=> Black
which is like the holy grail of conservative politics, all linked by the magic of IQ and meritocracy.

The "dumb" part appeals to otherwise open-minded liberals who are often pretty meritocratic in their hearts, reinforced by academia and the professional world.

If you want ur mom to stop liking Murray, just quote to her some of the poo poo at the end of The Bell Curve where he's talking about how we need clear draconian laws so stupid people aren't confused, and we need marriage to be powerful and regressive so that stupid people stay married, and we need to stop giving poor mothers money because we're just subsidizing stupid babies, and we need to stop immigration from stupid (brown-skinned) ethnicities.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Who What Now posted:

Goddamn, this idiot honestly has no self-awareness, does he? Hes exactly the same as the people he's talking about. I don't even think he knows what "idealogy" even means, because he misuses it constantly.

He's done this before. He did the same thing to Davis Aurini and Jordan Owen after they faceplanted all over the internet with The Sarkeesian Effect disaster. Thunderf00t put out like a 20 minute video trashing them for being incompetent idiots and making people like him look like clowns with their antics, and then around the 10 minute mark pivoted wildly into just attacking Anita Sarkeesian and acting like a clown himself.


Speaking of Jordan Owen, I see his dark night of the soul moment where he realized he'd hosed up his life being a dirty unemployed racist who hates ladies publicly on the internet is now over and he's back to being a dirty unemployed racist who hates ladies publicly on the internet. Though he has spiced things up a bit now by a dirty unemployed racist who hates ladies AND Donald Trump publicly on the internet. So, go Jordan! Hooray for personal development... you physically repulsive, irritable porn addict :toot:

PiCroft
Jun 11, 2010

I'm sorry, did I break all your shit? I didn't know it was yours

Lollin at Sargon and Thunderf00t having a lover's tiff. Sargon gets really precious when someone calls him out on his edgelordery.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Its pretty funny how hes demanding an apology over this too, given that I'm pretty sure that he never apologised to Poppy Noor.

PiCroft
Jun 11, 2010

I'm sorry, did I break all your shit? I didn't know it was yours

Who's itching for the latest Youtube Reactionary hot take of the Manchester concert bombing?

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






You're such a tease, I thought someone would have posted a three hour video up about it already. Maybe even a shorter one by Paul Joseph Watson where he talks about how this proves that hes correct in his choice to stay in his room all day.

Frogfingers
Oct 10, 2012

Gorn Myson posted:

You're such a tease, I thought someone would have posted a three hour video up about it already. Maybe even a shorter one by Paul Joseph Watson where he talks about how this proves that hes correct in his choice to stay in his room all day.

Maybe they learned their lesson after the Quebec shooting to not put their foot in their mouth with baseless speculation before all the facts are out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb9dXSkZbTY

PiCroft
Jun 11, 2010

I'm sorry, did I break all your shit? I didn't know it was yours

I don't watch much PJW because his persona is almost as obnoxious as TL;DR. I watched the Tom Avella takedown of his modern culture video and even then, his manner of speaking made my teeth grind.

"ARRT is suPOSED to be Up-LIFTING, but NOW, its HORRIBLE, DISGUSTING, DEGENERATE and EVIL"

his weird emphasis on words and obsession with listing modifiers, adjectives or examples (like I just did lol) makes every sentence tedious.

Midig
Apr 6, 2016

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/6cq5qh/altright_memer_stabs_a_black_man_rnews_debates_if/

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suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

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