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We actually had some blue-ribbon pricks prancing around outside my house today. We only noticed them because one of them bore an uncanny resemblance to IDS from the back. None of them, it should be noted, was the local Tory candidate, whose face I would recognise. They left the area about 10 minutes after arriving, in a loving Mini Cooper, but not before they'd had some atrocious bonding Vote Tory 
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Jedit posted:Did anyone link the story about the French lawyer filing a claim that the EU referendum was illegal because it excluded EU-resident ex-pats? Given that referendums are non binding I don't see how it could have a legal status.
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May 21, 2017 05:31
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Pissflaps posted:How much would it cost to nationalise and write off the student loan debt that was sold off? Not that much bizarrely. As its not that far off junk debt status with only a small proportion of loans ever expected to be fully paid back. Some experts were putting the estimates at less than £1 billion to pay all existing loans off, so its something that should be done if you do scrap all future loans. Remember this is only the tuition loans, the maintenance loans are a complete different thing and much larger.
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May 21, 2017 07:22
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:One in ten people "doesn't know" whether the police should be privatised. That's my take-home message from this chart.
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https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/866181434003914752 I'm no fan of digging up dirt for character assassinations, but to be honest this is pretty hard to defend against. Abbott will continue to be a liability for Corbyn's Labour. She might have nice ideals, but I cannot see her competently running a Department (assuming she'd be in a Corbyn cabinet).
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Ewan posted:https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/866181434003914752 I assume the Times has verified it (this time), but one does have to exercise caution when looking up 'quotes' from Diane Abbott from that era: https://thelionandunicorn.wordpress.com/2016/08/29/a-danger-to-democracy-a-press-portrait-of-diane-abbott-part-1/ posted:The personal attacks on Abbott started in a piece that Letwin wrote in The Times in 1986, quoting a document that he claimed she had written: ‘We are not interested in reforming the prevailing institutions of the police, armed services, judiciary and monarchy … We are about dismantling them and replacing them with our own machinery of class rule.’
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Weak. Real commitment means tattoos and brandings, not a bloody haircut. I guess it's fitting that a lib dem would make an easily reversible decision Anyone got a May tattoo yet?
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TACD posted:It's possible that one in ten people don't know what 'privatisation' means. I'm not sure if this counts as an optimistic perspective. It's more like one in ten people (which is incredibly low in my experience) don't give a poo poo about your boring survey.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Anyone got a May tattoo yet? I suspect a few people will be getting them in a month or so 
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May’s plan to end free school lunches ‘to hit 900,000 struggling families’quote:About 900,000 children from struggling families will lose their right to free school lunches under a cut unveiled in the Conservative manifesto.
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https://www.politicshome.com/news/europe/eu-policy-agenda/brexit/news/86112/david-davis-warns-uk-will-quit-brexit-talks-if-euquote:David Davis has warned that Britain will walk away from the negotiating table unless the EU drops calls for the UK to cough up €100bn as part of its Brexit bill.
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://www.politicshome.com/news/europe/eu-policy-agenda/brexit/news/86112/david-davis-warns-uk-will-quit-brexit-talks-if-eu
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May 21, 2017 09:14
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Yeah! Go on keir, pay them double!
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May 21, 2017 09:28
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On the subject of Keir - he always struck me as someone competent, but he rarely comes up in the occasional discussions of who will replace Corbyn after the election. What do people think?
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Ewan posted:On the subject of Keir - he always struck me as someone competent, but he rarely comes up in the occasional discussions of who will replace Corbyn after the election. What do people think? No hes not. just checked now Cooper is clear favorite. Who the the hell is putting money on her, she would not get elected by the membership in a million years. ukle fucked around with this message at 09:43 on May 21, 2017 |
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May 21, 2017 09:41
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Ewan posted:On the subject of Keir - he always struck me as someone competent, but he rarely comes up in the occasional discussions of who will replace Corbyn after the election. What do people think? He's never fully got behind Corbyn which doesn't endear him to the left, and he's extremely boring and lacks charisma which doesn't endear him to the right. I don't think he's ever been a serious contender.
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Ewan posted:On the subject of Keir - he always struck me as someone competent, but he rarely comes up in the occasional discussions of who will replace Corbyn after the election. What do people think? He's only been an MP (or indeed a politician at all) for two years. Some would see that as an advantage though.
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jabby posted:He's never fully got behind Corbyn which doesn't endear him to the left, and he's extremely boring and lacks charisma which doesn't endear him to the right. I don't think he's ever been a serious contender. He sounds strong and stable to me
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Bodied https://twitter.com/MarrShow/status/866218794779201536
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goddamnedtwisto posted:He's only been an MP (or indeed a politician at all) for two years. Some would see that as an advantage though. Head of the CPS is impressive sounding though
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She's the most like Theresa May in presentation. The Guardian love her.
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Jess Phillips on Peston saying that public opinion toward Corbyn hasn't improved (despite the polls showing it has), absolving the media of blame for his poor popularity, and repeating Starmer's line that we should measure success purely by number of seats won. Looks like the 'let him fail on his own' approach is running into the issue of steadily improving poll numbers and personal ratings, so I'm expecting the attacks from within Labour to resume and intensify over the next few weeks. For anyone who hasn't realised, this is why a 'unity candidate' won't work.
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Have we had any favourability polls on May / Corbyn since the snap election was called though? The issue we're reaching is the same one Miliband faced, in that people like Labour and what they're saying, but not necessarily Corbyn. E: This is also basically a post-manifesto bounce, once the IRA spin stories and the Tory manifesto takes effect, we'll probably see the polls dip down again. Not So Fast fucked around with this message at 11:22 on May 21, 2017 |
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May 21, 2017 11:19
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Not So Fast posted:The issue we're reaching is the same one Miliband faced, in that people like Labour and what they're saying, but not necessarily Corbyn.
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Even staunch Tory Andrew Neil isn't a fan of the dementia tax https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/866236437787795457 Steve2911 posted:Milliband was the most likeable major candidate in the last few decades. People are dumb.
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Not So Fast posted:Have we had any favourability polls on May / Corbyn since the snap election was called though? Opinium rating for Corbyn on April 22nd: -35 Opinium rating for Corbyn yesterday: -18 Gaining 17 points of popularity in a few weeks is quite a feat, and it completely shreds the idea that Corbyn is naturally unpopular with voters and the more they see of him the more they dislike him. jabby fucked around with this message at 11:41 on May 21, 2017 |
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Not So Fast posted:Have we had any favourability polls on May / Corbyn since the snap election was called though? Uhhh, I would be utterly stunned if there is a post-manifesto bounce for the Tories, considering what is inside the loving thing.
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jabby posted:Opinion rating for Corbyn on April 22nd: -35 ...except for his -18 approval rating ?
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Not So Fast posted:Have we had any favourability polls on May / Corbyn since the snap election was called though? There are some which show that Corbyn is now more popular than either Farron or Nuthall, with May dropping down from her height of a few months ago (unsurprising, really). Leaks from the Tories have already said that they have pretty much run out everything they can on Corbyn and that there are no more surprises left, so people basically either love him or hate him at this point based on what they know already. Apparently he doesn't really have any more skeletons left in the closet.
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jabby posted:Opiniun rating for Corbyn on April 22nd: -35 OK, that is interesting. Still quite low, but interesting.
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jabby posted:Opiniun rating for Corbyn on April 22nd: -35
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Pissflaps posted:...except for his -18 approval rating ? People have seen more of Corbyn and his policies since the election campaign began, and as a result his popularity has considerably improved. I'm fairly sure you did not think that would happen. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I also think he's the only party leader whose popularity has improved rather than declined over this campaign. Ewan posted:He's grown on a lot of people and that is a commendable feat. But - we're That's not entirely the point. One of the big Blairite arguments against Corbyn was that he was toxic to the electorate and the more they saw of him the worse they would dislike him, so why not trash his reputation to try and get rid of him? Turns out it isn't true, and he's a lot more popular with the public than they made him.
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Ewan posted:Even staunch Tory Andrew Neil isn't a fan of the dementia tax A commie jew who hates britain and eats bacon. Completely untrustworthy!!
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jabby posted:People have seen more of Corbyn and his policies since the election campaign began, and as a result his popularity has considerably improved. I'm fairly sure you did not think that would happen. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I also think he's the only party leader whose popularity has improved rather than declined over this campaign. People have seen more of Corbyn and his approval rating is -18. If your contention is that exposure to Corbyn makes him popular then your own evidence suggests you are wrong.
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What generally happens is that the polls are made from second hand impressions for most of the election cycle; people only actually see what the party leaders are actually like in the run up to the GE.
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