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Personal_Nirvana
Dec 28, 2012
I don't know what's about NRS and zonning characters. I remeber Kung Jin in MKX being a pain to fight against for quite some time too. Deadshot is too opressive, it requires a degree of patience and restrain people usually find unfun...even Captain cold has some bullshit keep away game with the cold gun + MB ice wall.

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dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009

Personal_Nirvana posted:

I don't know what's about NRS and zonning characters. I remeber Kung Jin in MKX being a pain to fight against for quite some time too. Deadshot is too opressive, it requires a degree of patience and restrain people usually find unfun...even Captain cold has some bullshit keep away game with the cold gun + MB ice wall.

play ST

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
I mean, there are good examples of zoners in the game too. Dr. Fate's projectiles will sail over your head once you hit midscreen, firestorm's low shot only hits one of 3 points on the ground, Green Arrow has to reload his actual damaging arrows, etc. Deadshot is just in a weird spot where the holes in his shooting probably aren't big enough and he has a stupidly strong up-close knockback game.

Double Bill
Jan 29, 2006

Deadshot just recovers way too quickly. IIRC in Inj1 you could dash between Deathstroke's shots, making him a lot less cancerous (and he was still nerfed). Against Deadshot you just have to block and move forward an inch at a time, which sucks. And he can immediately put you at fullscreen again with MB shotgun.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Double Bill posted:

Deadshot just recovers way too quickly. IIRC in Inj1 you could dash between Deathstroke's shots, making him a lot less cancerous (and he was still nerfed). Against Deadshot you just have to block and move forward an inch at a time, which sucks. And he can immediately put you at fullscreen again with MB shotgun.

You had to have a perfect connection to be able to get in on a spamming Deathstroke. The window was way too tight.

Edit: Again, I remind the thread that Deathstroke won an actual big tournament early in IJ1's life by a Deathstroke gun spamming guy. With the entire leadup being the thread "pros" constantly telling everyone they were big babies for not being able to effortlessly own Deathstrokes.

Hail Mr. Satan! fucked around with this message at 15:27 on May 21, 2017

OxMan
May 13, 2006

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AndyElusive posted:

I recommend https://testyourmight.com

Click on the character you're interested in and check the various combo or general discussion threads on them.

Thank you so much this is EXACTLY what I was looking for.

WarEternal
Dec 26, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:

You had to have a perfect connection to be able to get in on a spamming Deathstroke. The window was way too tight.

Edit: Again, I remind the thread that Deathstroke won an actual big tournament early in IJ1's life by a Deathstroke gun spamming guy.

*sigh* No, you're probably thinking of WNF.

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013...arturo-sanchez/

This is the first tournament for Injustice 1 that I can find, Deathstroke wasn't patched until May 20th, 2013 with 1.03 (http://www.levelupyourgame.com/2013/05/20/injustice-1-03-patch-notes/).

Also, that's not the way the netcode works in this game at all, your connection is either laggy or it isn't, latency really doesn't affect your ability to get in. The only thing he has no recovery on is the straight wrist shot. You need to actually make reads to get in on him. It takes practice, you can't just mindlessly go forward and it's not something people can easily learn in less than a week of playing a brand new game.

MB Rifle also doesn't put you full screen, and you get a free dash after you block it.

In the top 8 of that tournament there's only 1 Deadshot and it's in loser's bracket.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Does anyone know if Supergirl gets a Red Lantern icon for her chest gear slot?

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

The fact remains that he was definitely not "fine" and people were dismissively telling people he was.

bebaloorpabopalo
Nov 23, 2005

I'm not interested in constructive criticism, believe me.
It's fun and easy to make fun of people whining about Spam but there's a nugget of truth in peoples complaints specifically with NRS games.

It's not fun or interesting to get around zoning in the game at all. Fireball wars aren't a thing, so even in matchups between two zoners you end up with one of them doing nothing but The Get In On NRS Fireballs game, because the character who gets even the slightest favorable trade out of a projectile exchange completely invalidates the other characters projectiles and they're left doing the block and scoot for 10 seconds before they get close enough to threaten with anything meaningful.

What's weird is they basically "fixed" this in MKX with the run and I don't really see a good reason why they wouldn't put it in this game other than to have an arbitrary thing differentiating them.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

bebaloorpabopalo posted:

It's fun and easy to make fun of people whining about Spam but there's a nugget of truth in peoples complaints specifically with NRS games.

It's not fun or interesting to get around zoning in the game at all. Fireball wars aren't a thing, so even in matchups between two zoners you end up with one of them doing nothing but The Get In On NRS Fireballs game, because the character who gets even the slightest favorable trade out of a projectile exchange completely invalidates the other characters projectiles and they're left doing the block and scoot for 10 seconds before they get close enough to threaten with anything meaningful.

What's weird is they basically "fixed" this in MKX with the run and I don't really see a good reason why they wouldn't put it in this game other than to have an arbitrary thing differentiating them.

I think you'd have to use the stamina meter if you used the run, and they definitely want you to be throwing things and throwing people INTO things a lot more in this game.

I'm actually kind of surprised the roll costs 2 bars. 1 seems sufficient.

7lip
Mar 25, 2009

Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass.
*picks lvl 20 Black Canary in ranked online*

*opponent disconnects*

I'm not very good or anything Mr or Mrs ranked mode opponent, she's only lvl 20 because she was the first character I learned (some of) the moves for and have been doing all my multiverse with.



In other news, I can beat every other AI opponent, though sometimes not by much, but Robin kicks my rear end at least 3 times before I eke out a win, and have missed score boxes just by that little score loss for a loss :mad:.

Dj Meow Mix
Jan 27, 2009

corgicorgicorgicorgi
rockin everywhere


1 bar roll would be quite the improvement in this game given how fast it is. You're still burning meter to make up for poor movement/zone trading options though which adds up later in the match when clashes start happening.

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

what are you guys talking about? meter rolls cost only 1 bar.

OxMan
May 13, 2006

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Awww poo poo my man Andy you were not kidding, that combo does like half a life bar. I was playing unranked and did it twice on a dr fate until he started to backdash everywhere so the last round i just laser poked him from the skies the whole round. I'm getting a little more comfortable with the systems, thanks everyone for your help so far.

Dj Meow Mix
Jan 27, 2009

corgicorgicorgicorgi
rockin everywhere


DLC Inc posted:

what are you guys talking about? meter rolls cost only 1 bar.

wait really? dang. gonna roll with bane more then lol

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Dj Meow Mix posted:

wait really? dang. gonna roll with bane more then lol

yea man, always be rollin

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
How do you enter roll

l33tfuzzbox
Apr 3, 2009
Applied to the Xbox guild as shean2theo.

nunsexmonkrock
Apr 13, 2008

Dexie posted:

Does anyone know if Supergirl gets a Red Lantern icon for her chest gear slot?

She better. The only time I actually read her in the comics was when she was a red lantern.. I even have the trades - somewhere on book shelf that is filled with comics rather than books. 2 shelves in the office filled with comics and 3 filled on shelves int he living room.

Thern
Aug 12, 2006

Say Hello To My Little Friend

Dj Meow Mix posted:

wait really? dang. gonna roll with bane more then lol

Yeah it's air escapes that cost two bars.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
My bad, I play Darkseid so I just spam Omega Beams. I don't need rolls.

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


Guild world 1 done. Wouldn't mind doing Catwoman with some people for diamond boxes.

Squallege
Jan 7, 2006

No greater good, no just cause

Grimey Drawer
I'm really bad but I'll apply for the guild too. SA name is the same as PSN.

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


Looking for one more in Goon Squad for Catwoman boss. Come in and message.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
I really hate brainiac's boss attacks

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
I'm so torn. On one hand, Green Lantern is a very boring character in this game to me, but on the other his Love shader rules and killing people with a big pastel robot rules...

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
Brainiac boss has really weak AI though. Just j2 him for days

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Jimmy Hats posted:

Brainiac boss has really weak AI though. Just j2 him for days

what does that mean

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Kurtofan posted:

what does that mean

jump medium, he has literally no way of handling it as long as you don't actually go for the crossup

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

sexpig by night posted:

jump medium, he has literally no way of handling it as long as you don't actually go for the crossup

is that triangle

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
also can you guys accept me in the goon lantern corps, i sent an application

edit: thanks that was fast

Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 18:07 on May 21, 2017

OxMan
May 13, 2006

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Kurtofan posted:

is that triangle

strange feelings re Daisy posted:

1 = light
2= medium
3 = hard
4 = trait
MB = Meter burn

I think everything else is generic directions

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
This game makes me want to read comics I bet that would be a dumb idea

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
Note to self: be level 20 in boss fights lmao

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
Holy gently caress darkseids super gets blocked if you throw an interactable into it

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Empress Brosephine posted:

This game makes me want to read comics I bet that would be a dumb idea

It is a dumb idea. But it's a lot of dumb fun.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Do ya'll accept goon spouses into the guild as well?

MrJacobs
Sep 15, 2008

Kurtofan posted:

is that triangle

They tell you this in the tutorial. multiple times.

light=X/square
medium=Y/triangle
hard=A/x
Trait=B/Circle
MB=LT/R2

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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

McCloud posted:

Do ya'll accept goon spouses into the guild as well?

well don't lie to the nice people just ask for an invite for your cousin

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