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UPDATE: not a good movie![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK9LpM7qmJY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZC5FoJ-cPU August 4th 2017 The story of Roland Deschain, the gunslinger, a questing knight pursuing a wizard to the ends of a dying world. quote:The desert was the apotheosis of all deserts, huge, standing to the sky for what looked like eternity in all directions. It was white and blinding and waterless and without feature save for the faint, cloudy haze of the mountains which sketched themselves on the horizon and the devil-grass which brought sweet dreams, nightmares, death. An occasional tombstone sign pointed the way, for once the drifted track that cut its way through the thick crust of alkali had been a highway. Coaches and buckas had followed it. The world had moved on since then. The world had emptied. Idris Elba as Roland Deschain ![]() Matthew McConaughey as the Man in Black ![]() Directed by quote:There they stood, ranged along the hill-sides, met Rando fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Aug 26, 2017 |
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# ? May 14, 2024 02:21 |
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I sure hope old Long, Tall and Ugly does a little better this time around.
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I'm siding with the gunslinger this time around. Drugs did me no good.
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This isn't being directed by Ron Howard, now - Ron was in the mix when it was still being worked as a weird cross-media thing. This version is directed by Nikolaj Arcel, who I think is most known for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo? I'd actually feel better about it if it was Ron Howard.
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VanillaGorilla posted:This isn't being directed by Ron Howard, now - Ron was in the mix when it was still being worked as a weird cross-media thing. This version is directed by Nikolaj Arcel, who I think is most known for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo? oh poo poo, your right. thanks.
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VanillaGorilla posted:This isn't being directed by Ron Howard, now - Ron was in the mix when it was still being worked as a weird cross-media thing. This version is directed by Nikolaj Arcel, who I think is most known for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo? So this isn't the one that's also going to have a tv show attached to it? I had no idea. I just finished the DT series last year and enjoyed it enough. Looking forward to the movie, interesting to see the differences and parallels in the cycle, as it were. It would be dope if the Low Men showed up in the Castle Rock tv show that's being planned.
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So here's a thing that's been bugging me about the advertising so far (but could just be part of the advertising and not the film): Walter is supposed to be always grinning, like really malicious and cold-blooded and just having a loving great time ruining things. You've got Matt McConnaughey, a dude known for that exact loving persona - why does he look like he's constantly just stubbed his toe? I want him going Dazed and Confused on this character and we just haven't seen any indication of that chaos-god yet. Not worrying or anything but an odd choice given the actor and the footage given to showcase him.
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ruddiger posted:So this isn't the one that's also going to have a tv show attached to it? I had no idea. DT has been in development hell for a very long time. This movie is what's left of that big cross-media endeavor. We ended up with no TV show, and this movie is a "sequel" to the DT books, essentially telling the story of the next turning of Roland's story. From the rumors, the movie we'll see in August will incorporate elements of the first three DT books, but won't be a 1-1 telling because it's not the same timeline.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:So here's a thing that's been bugging me about the advertising so far (but could just be part of the advertising and not the film): In the trailer, he reminds me of Pacino in The Devil's Advocate. He didn't go all crazy ham right off the bat either, you gotta build up to that.
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The trailer is bad and this is my favorite book series. If the plot is actually about the nebulous tower falling, then I want no part of it. Just looked generic and stripped of almost everything that made it unique.
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I have a weird, sinking feeling that the framed photo of the Overlook shown in the trailer is more Chekov's Gun than easter egg. Those shots of Roland and the Man in Black facing off against each other certainly look like they take place in a dilapidated building which has been left to the snowy elements.
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bushisms.txt posted:The trailer is bad and this is my favorite book series. If the plot is actually about the nebulous tower falling, then I want no part of it. Just looked generic and stripped of almost everything that made it unique. Agreed. The tower would look much better with Palpatine on a balcony throwing Harry Potter props while cackling.
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So this is only now happening decades after the height of King's popularity. And it's going to be a sequel to the books at the start of the altered timeline. I don't understand any of this decision.
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super sweet best pal posted:So this is only now happening decades after the height of King's popularity. And it's going to be a sequel to the books at the start of the altered timeline. I don't understand any of this decision. If I'm being honest, that a DT movie is happening at all is kind of a miracle. There have been maybe a couple of adaptations of King's work that have been decent. And even if they made a decent DT adaptation, it likely wouldn't do gangbusters at the box office. It's just not that hot an IP, and it would be a costly project for any studio to take on - which is exactly why the big Ron Howard thing collapsed in on itself. It's a risky movie to make, and Hollywood is a tremendously risk averse place. I suspect that this is happening because they've already sunk a bunch of money into development over the last decade or so, and decided to produce SOMETHING from all that work to see if it stuck to the wall.
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bushisms.txt posted:The trailer is bad and this is my favorite book series. If the plot is actually about the nebulous tower falling, then I want no part of it. Just looked generic and stripped of almost everything that made it unique. That's my issue really. The books aren't exacting lacking for evocative imagery or scenes but they somehow managed not to include any of it.
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I thought the trailer looked good, but the fanboy whining starting up this early has got me excited. Thank you my faithful negative barometers ![]()
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PerilPastry posted:That's my issue really. The books aren't exacting lacking for evocative imagery or scenes but they somehow managed not to include any of it. but didn't you see those sicknasty reloads brah
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Having not read any of the DT books and having only passing familiarity with them, I think this looks pretty good.
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VanillaGorilla posted:If I'm being honest, that a DT movie is happening at all is kind of a miracle. There have been maybe a couple of adaptations of King's work that have been decent. And even if they made a decent DT adaptation, it likely wouldn't do gangbusters at the box office. It's just not that hot an IP, and it would be a costly project for any studio to take on - which is exactly why the big Ron Howard thing collapsed in on itself. Yeah, that's why it's so strange they're doing it now and not back in the early 2000s when the success of the LotR movies would've had producers looking for fantasy serials to adapt and King was still a pretty big name. The poster in the OP doesn't even have a big "Stephen King" prominently splashed along the top or even anywhere, which is half the point of adapting this over paying way less for another sci-fi/fantasy series by someone unknown to non-nerds, his name used to be free advertising.
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bushisms.txt posted:The trailer is bad and this is my favorite book series. If the plot is actually about the nebulous tower falling, then I want no part of it. Just looked generic and stripped of almost everything that made it unique. I'm trying to go into the movie with the mindset that it's inspired by the books but has nothing really to do with the books. Alternatively, the books took such a hard left turn after book IV that what the hell, this will probably fit right in lol
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I haven't read the books, but the trailer looks oddly Young Adult-y. Do the books also have a hip teenager tagging along for the wild ride?
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I haven't read the books in a while but I remember Jake being 9-10, and taking to the dog-thing they pick up just like a kid would. It felt like the book about Roland's past had the most YA bend. He gets laid and feels emotions and poo poo.
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ozza posted:I haven't read the books, but the trailer looks oddly Young Adult-y. Do the books also have a hip teenager tagging along for the wild ride? Yes, a preteen with a talking dog raccoon
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There is nothing hip about Jake.
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VanillaGorilla posted:If I'm being honest, that a DT movie is happening at all is kind of a miracle. There have been maybe a couple of adaptations of King's work that have been decent. And even if they made a decent DT adaptation, it likely wouldn't do gangbusters at the box office. It's just not that hot an IP, and it would be a costly project for any studio to take on - which is exactly why the big Ron Howard thing collapsed in on itself. Not really, unless I'm reading it wrong almost every movie based on a Stephen King work made a profit. Eight of them have made over $75 million if you adjust for inflation. Carrie, The Shining, Shawshank Redemption, Green Mile, Misery, Stand By Me, it's definitely more than "maybe a couple" and he's a big name people go out to see his work. In total Box Office Mojo has his movies making over $2B with an average of about $56M which seems more than decent.
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:There is nothing hip about Jake. If I remember correctly, his dad does lots of coke. I hope they keep that detail. e: are this and It being produced by different studios? I would love if they managed to squeeze in cross-references.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Yes, a preteen with a talking dog raccoon Sold.
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Jummy posted:Not really, unless I'm reading it wrong almost every movie based on a Stephen King work made a profit. Eight of them have made over $75 million if you adjust for inflation. Carrie, The Shining, Shawshank Redemption, Green Mile, Misery, Stand By Me, it's definitely more than "maybe a couple" and he's a big name people go out to see his work. In total Box Office Mojo has his movies making over $2B with an average of about $56M which seems more than decent. This is kind of uncharted waters though, because King's stuff has never really been the type to necessitate $100mil+ budgets, this is really the first time his material is being used to create a major blockbuster. The standards of success are a lot different, when you make The Mist for 18 million and it makes 60 million, that's a success. When you spend 80-100 million on The Dark Tower that puts it into a different category where just making a few hundred million at the box office isn't going to cut it.
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Basebf555 posted:This is kind of uncharted waters though, because King's stuff has never really been the type to necessitate $100mil+ budgets, this is really the first time his material is being used to create a major blockbuster. The standards of success are a lot different, when you make The Mist for 18 million and it makes 60 million, that's a success. When you spend 80-100 million on The Dark Tower that puts it into a different category where just making a few hundred million at the box office isn't going to cut it. I can see that, but I don't necessarily agree. The Running Man is Arnold just a couple years after Terminator with a pretty significant budget and it did pretty well. BUT then you have something like Dreamcatcher where they spent almost $70m and definitely didn't recoup that money so yeah it could go either way. I'm curious about your last point, though, how if the budget is $100m and they make "a few hundred million" presumably $300m+ how does that not cut it? That seems like a pretty decent profit but I'm sure I'm missing something.
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Jummy posted:I can see that, but I don't necessarily agree. The Running Man is Arnold just a couple years after Terminator with a pretty significant budget and it did pretty well. BUT then you have something like Dreamcatcher where they spent almost $70m and definitely didn't recoup that money so yeah it could go either way. I'm curious about your last point, though, how if the budget is $100m and they make "a few hundred million" presumably $300m+ how does that not cut it? That seems like a pretty decent profit but I'm sure I'm missing something. A decent profit isn't really the return on the investment that studios are looking for from these huge tentpole blockbusters. It's a zero sum game, so that 100 mil and those years spent in development could have been used for something that theoretically could have done a lot better than "just" 200 or 300 million. It would be regarded as not a flop, yet still somewhat of a missed opportunity. I'm not saying I agree with that but its the way these huge films are evaluated these days.
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Basebf555 posted:A decent profit isn't really the return on the investment that studios are looking for from these huge tentpole blockbusters. It's a zero sum game, so that 100 mil and those years spent in development could have been used for something that theoretically could have done a lot better than "just" 200 or 300 million. It would be regarded as not a flop, yet still somewhat of a missed opportunity. I'm not saying I agree with that but its the way these huge films are evaluated these days. Gotcha, I hadn't thought about that but it makes total sense.
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Hodgepodge posted:I hope they keep that detail. This movie is going to go down in marketing history by figuring out that the trick to silence the "it was different in the book" crowd was to show some random still of a horn and then have every book hipster go "heh, if you actually had read the book you'd know it was different because _______"
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:This movie is going to go down in marketing history by figuring out that the trick to silence the "it was different in the book" crowd was to show some random still of a horn and then have every book hipster go "heh, if you actually had read the book you'd know it was different because _______" The reason why the movie is allowed to be different really is fully explained in the books. The reason people are being tight lipped about that is because it would be impossible to explain without spoiling the ending of a series that people invest a lot of time in reading. It's a long series.
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I like a lot of weird poo poo but I still don't like the Dune movie in any version which I guess doesn't bode well for me and this film since they are both one-off films based on a very long source (I realize the Dune film was just Dune, but they were adapting a book with so much internal dialogue, it makes it feel a lot longer).
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Unpopular opinion but if the DT movie gets me to a place where I can hear Idris Elba say "bumhugs" I can forgive just about anything.
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Basebf555 posted:The reason why the movie is allowed to be different really is fully explained in the books. The reason people are being tight lipped about that is because it would be impossible to explain without spoiling the ending of a series that people invest a lot of time in reading. It's a long series. You just did the exact thing he's riffing on.
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beejay posted:You just did the exact thing he's riffing on. So be it then. It's a legitimate point that isn't based on hipsterism or smugness, its me saying that its really not a good idea to fully explain why this movie is allowed to be different from the book. It would spoil a pretty large portion of a really long series, so I don't see what's so "hehe" about that.
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To be fair it's contextually obvious what the twist is just from reading elements of the thread critically.
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Mulva posted:To be fair it's contextually obvious what the twist is just from reading elements of the thread critically. If you want to boil it down to two or three words, sure. But its really not about just a twist at the end. It's at the center of almost everything in the entire story in ways that are better left unspoiled.
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# ? May 14, 2024 02:21 |
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Lets all agree to explain all the differences in the movie as the fact that the book we read was in universe written by an unreliable narrator stephen king having the story leak into his brain instead of explaining the differences as the time loop stuff.
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