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nuru posted:I assure you that Lethargy is not on the bars of the majority of BLMs. That's a shame, it's one of those utility buttons I use the most. I use it more than Manipulation even! Mostly because Slow helps drag cast bars out, which makes them easier to interrupt/mess with AI scripting.
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Sinners Sandwich posted:What is he playing with? A mouse and a tiny keyboard? It looked something like: https://www.google.ca/search?q=gaming+half+keyboard&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRyNnz34HUAhWG1IMKHYx0AdUQ_AUICigB&biw=865&bih=791 Basically a half keyboard with a slightly better key layout for gaming.
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May 21, 2017 20:46
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Ferrinus posted:Where are you seeing triple swiftcast? In the longer video, he uses an ability whose mouseover description says it makes your next 3 spells instant.
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May 21, 2017 20:55
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From the looks of it, specifically a Logitech G13.
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May 21, 2017 20:56
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Would you reccomend it? I've only played with a controller and this looks like a cool learning thing
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May 21, 2017 21:03
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slev posted:he's a potato what are you expecting His resignation on his boss' desk in roughly 4 hours from now
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MechaCrash posted:From the looks of it, specifically a Logitech G13. These are great but holy poo poo unlearning years of muscle memory is rough. it's worth it if you have any sort of wrist issues though because it's infinitely better than a keyboard.
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May 21, 2017 21:16
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Would you reccomend it? I've only played with a controller and this looks like a cool learning thing If you're used to WASDing they're nice for getting more keys to the left, similar to what you have to the right. I think some also add essentially a second number row that is usable compared to most keyboards having function keys way up there. I've never owned one, but I have at least one friend who loves them. The logitech one linked in question doesn't seem to add many keys, so I'm not sure which I'm thinking off. If you got used to the joystick for movement (can FFXIV do joystick + keyboard?) it would be a pretty solid increase. nuru fucked around with this message at 21:24 on May 21, 2017 |
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May 21, 2017 21:21
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Would you reccomend it? I've only played with a controller and this looks like a cool learning thing I can't speak for the G13 specifically, as I don't have one. I have a Razer Nostromo, and I found the game drat near unplayable without. Granted, a lot of that is muscle memory transferring over from five or so years of City of Heroes, but still. Having a bunch of abilities right under your thumb is fantastic.
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May 21, 2017 21:23
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MechaCrash posted:I can't speak for the G13 specifically, as I don't have one. I have a Razer Nostromo, and I found the game drat near unplayable without. Granted, a lot of that is muscle memory transferring over from five or so years of City of Heroes, but still. Having a bunch of abilities right under your thumb is fantastic. I think the nostromo was discontinued, it can't be found in a search on Razer's site anymore.
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May 21, 2017 21:25
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As someone who just got all crafters to 60, what's the poverty set look like for gearing all of them to "yeah I guess you could craft the sky pirate set for glamours"? Even though I'm sitting on about 81 fibers, I'm not sure it'll be worth the effort and money to go fully kitted out with the i190 Ironworks set, especially with Stormblood right around the corner, but I also have no idea what all the inbetween places are from vendor 58 whites to the high end. I just want to make poo poo for glamours without spending a six-digit gil number on it, as well as consolidate down to one set.
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May 21, 2017 21:25
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The secret to the 'key board' is that there are many buttons available, and on top of that, it functions as a keyboard when not playing the game. Think about it.
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May 21, 2017 21:29
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nuru posted:I think the nostromo was discontinued, it can't be found in a search on Razer's site anymore. That's a drat shame. This is actually the third iteration of the thing, the original was the Belkin n52 Speedpad many years ago. I'd be willing to give the G13 a shot, but after the disastrous Saitek Cyborg Command Unit, I really do not want to buy one of these things without getting my hands on it to find out if the manufacturer understands ergonomics worth a poo poo.
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May 21, 2017 21:31
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strong bird posted:The secret to the 'key board' is that there are many buttons available, and on top of that, it functions as a keyboard when not playing the game. Think about it. This is off the chain... I'm going to have to call bullshit
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Eight-Six posted:As someone who just got all crafters to 60, what's the poverty set look like for gearing all of them to "yeah I guess you could craft the sky pirate set for glamours"? Even though I'm sitting on about 81 fibers, I'm not sure it'll be worth the effort and money to go fully kitted out with the i190 Ironworks set, especially with Stormblood right around the corner, but I also have no idea what all the inbetween places are from vendor 58 whites to the high end. I just want to make poo poo for glamours without spending a six-digit gil number on it, as well as consolidate down to one set. Even with ironworks you're going to need to do some melding to be able to do 4* crafts. If all you care about is glamour, I'd just get another crafter to help you out, since SB is less than a month away now. That being said, a full ironworks set even without melds will give you a pretty big leg up on crafting in SB.
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May 21, 2017 21:41
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strong bird posted:The secret to the 'key board' is that there are many buttons available, and on top of that, it functions as a keyboard when not playing the game. Think about it. For people without wrist problems, adopting ESDF and getting more keys to the left is probably just as good as a dedicated thing. Unless shift is too far for you then, in which case I don't know hands are hard. That being said, I'm intrigued by the joystick because wasd movement makes it particularly hard to say, hit E while strafing right with D. nuru fucked around with this message at 21:46 on May 21, 2017 |
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May 21, 2017 21:43
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I am a chaos gamer and have my thumb buttons on my mouse bound to shift, control and ALT, with a profile button to revert it to normal, and I have all the buttons bound in their normal state, as well. This makes me very powerful.
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May 21, 2017 21:54
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Huh. Yoshi-P plays with a Nostromo when he's not on a controller, huh? nuru posted:I think the nostromo was discontinued, it can't be found in a search on Razer's site anymore. MechaCrash posted:That's a drat shame. This is actually the third iteration of the thing, the original was the Belkin n52 Speedpad many years ago. I'd be willing to give the G13 a shot, but after the disastrous Saitek Cyborg Command Unit, I really do not want to buy one of these things without getting my hands on it to find out if the manufacturer understands ergonomics worth a poo poo. They are now marketed under the Tartarus and Orbweaver names.
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May 21, 2017 22:00
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strong bird posted:I am a chaos gamer and have my thumb buttons on my mouse bound to shift, control and ALT, with a profile button to revert it to normal, and I have all the buttons bound in their normal state, as well. This makes me very powerful. 
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May 21, 2017 22:01
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the Japanese PC gaming market is being largely influenced by gaming equipment that we've learned to look away from and I see fresh Japanese PC gamers all over the place with those tiny WASD area things in addition to regular keyboards for some loving reason
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May 21, 2017 22:09
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Nostromos are sick and I congratulate the Japanese PC Gamers on their good taste
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Huh. Yoshi-P plays with a Nostromo when he's not on a controller, huh? Huh, neat. There's a store not far, maybe they have them on display there.
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The japanese literally do not know what personal computers are so I'm not surprised they do their level best to consoleize the control method by chopping a keyboard into quarters. alternatively The japanese spend so much time in their office jobs the sight of a keyboard is physically repulsive so they use the keypad things to game.
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Alternatively: a lot of PC gamers play MMOs in Japan and gameboards are a useful, MMO-specialised peripheral, just like mice with lots of thumb buttons.
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Countblanc posted:It's a separate spell (different icon, much shorter cooldown), so I guess we can do things like fly to someone to avoid an AoE and then get right back into it. I wonder if Leylines is going to be changed in some way - it feels weird to get a cooldown specific to another cooldown. Maybe it loses its duration and just stays there until you move it but only gives a spell speed buff every X seconds where X is the current cooldown? That'd be convenient. Edit: Nevermind, leylines clearly does fade. Still, the above implementation would be a nice convenience thing. Edit2: It annoys me that leylines in its usage as a teleport destination and as a buff are often going to be in conflict, I really wish it just stuck around and you could boost it to get the buff. Obligatum VII fucked around with this message at 22:58 on May 21, 2017 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Even with ironworks you're going to need to do some melding to be able to do 4* crafts. If all you care about is glamour, I'd just get another crafter to help you out, since SB is less than a month away now. That being said, a full ironworks set even without melds will give you a pretty big leg up on crafting in SB. sky pirate set is the 2* i185 2* is doable with blue scrip tools, HQ chimerical/serpentskin, and food (and CP melded into all your guaranteed slots if you want to use Rath's rotation)
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strong bird posted:The japanese literally do not know what personal computers are so I'm not surprised they do their level best to consoleize the control method by chopping a keyboard into quarters. 
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strong bird posted:The japanese literally do not know what personal computers are so I'm not surprised they do their level best to consoleize the control method by chopping a keyboard into quarters. haha yeah
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Off topic - Just remembered the Ironworks MNK helm has (near as makes no difference) the same visor action as Raiden's in MGR:R. http://imgur.com/mc95iWR Was already planning on macros with THE RULES OF NATURE but goddamn
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Griz posted:sky pirate set is the 2* i185 As it turns out, you can outright buy old Diadem crafted gear straight up with Brass Sky Pirate Spoils. I was pretty surprised to find that a solo-tank queue for Diadem was only six minutes just now.
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I have one of those 12-button gaming mice, so I have four hotbars in a 3x4 setup each bound to mousebutton (GCDs), ctrl-mousebutton (common oGCDs), shift-mousebutton (defensive cooldowns), and alt-mousebutton (stances and other stuff I don't have to use much). Then I have a shared hotbar with function keys for stuff like teleporting, and two vertical hotbars off to the side for changing jobs. I also have g-shift+mousebutton bound to act like ctrl-mousebutton so I basically only use my left hand for WASD. So I can do move while doing stuff easily but if I want to move the camera or switch targets I'm kinda in a bad spot.
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So I've been kinda taking a break waiting for the expansion to hit, how far ahead of launch do we usually see the pre-patch that would include things like the promised job-skill changes? A week or so? Have they mentioned anything new about that or nothing since the Fan-fests?
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I'm pretty sure tomorrow's live letter is supposed to go into some detail about the combat rework.
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mistaya posted:So I've been kinda taking a break waiting for the expansion to hit, how far ahead of launch do we usually see the pre-patch that would include things like the promised job-skill changes? A week or so? Nothing prepatch. Everything happens on early access launch.
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If it's anything like HW, they're gonna go over some broad details tomorrow and we'll probably get to see the animations for some new abilities, but we won't know any concrete information until the servers go down before early access.
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I think anyone going in expecting anything big enough to be described as an overhaul is going to get disappointed
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slev posted:I think anyone going in expecting anything big enough to be described as an overhaul is going to get disappointed i don't think that
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What I want tomorrow: - Lots of new abilities - A reference to the 9-person Full Party if that's a thing - that's it there aren't other things.
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Things I'm expecting (though they might not be revealed tomorrow): * Parry rework * Accuracy rework/removal * Addressing skill bloat by collapsing redundant skills * Maybe giving PLD real AoE? * Talking about the BLM Enochian rework. * The new job-specific UI elements
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