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hifi
Jul 25, 2012

that's the same price as a x keys thing so it sounds like a good deal

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hifi
Jul 25, 2012

well, good deal in the sense that it's still not something i want to spend $150 on

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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yeah it's definitely a bit over what i like to spend on stupid gimmicks, but at least it's not one thousand five hundred earth dollars like the original
https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/popularis/

again, diy'ing macros is the obvious budget choice, but since i use a lot of stuff that's 3-4 layers deep in menus via shortcuts in office & adobe i'm considering it. it also has the added bonus of being prettier than a bunch of paper labels on a xkey, and obviously it's dynamic.

could make sense as a fancy pants travel numpad too.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.
do the keys actually press? its hard to tell from the way the guy in the gif is slapping at them. if they have a good click to em it might be nice, but if it's just capacitive or something it wouldnt do much for me

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i skimmed a youtube review and they press down but you couldnt hear them click on the guys mic. sort of makes sense since they're targeting the streamer market although those guys havent all figured out hearing your keyboard is a bad thing

Roosevelt
Jul 18, 2009

I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

surebet posted:

in non mechanical but still interesting keeb news, there's an optimus popularis/mini clone that's about to come out



it's basically a 4-5" display with buttons on top but it looks like it works well. it's $150 so there's an argument to be made for just making macros instead, but i've always been interested in the original optimus stuff. worst case scenario it'd chill next to my leap motion in a drawer somewhere.

ew

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Jan 10, 2013

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Raluek posted:

do the keys actually press? its hard to tell from the way the guy in the gif is slapping at them. if they have a good click to em it might be nice, but if it's just capacitive or something it wouldnt do much for me

yeah i'm wondering myself

the original art lebedev optimus maximus design was to literally mount tiny lcds in each key, which were overlayed on... domes? i'm not even sure. the popularis ditched the novel but obviously complicated tiny lcds by having a single, big touch sensitive display on the back with keys mounted on maybe leaf springs?



whatever it is, expect super short travel & near zero actuation force. for all intents and purposes this is a touch screen.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
I will never buy any product with the name "Optimus Maximus".

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy
You would if it was dvorak

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Jan 10, 2013

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Salt Fish posted:

I will never buy any product with the name "Optimus Maximus".

don't kink penis pump shame

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004

Dodoman posted:

You would if it was dvorak

good news, with an LCD under every key it can be dvorak or any wacky layout you come up with

it can be like that random keypad your bank makes you click your pin in on

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

surebet posted:

yeah i'm wondering myself

the original art lebedev optimus maximus design was to literally mount tiny lcds in each key, which were overlayed on... domes? i'm not even sure. the popularis ditched the novel but obviously complicated tiny lcds by having a single, big touch sensitive display on the back with keys mounted on maybe leaf springs?



whatever it is, expect super short travel & near zero actuation force. for all intents and purposes this is a touch screen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p8Rc1uTmHY

2:40

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Jan 10, 2013

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ok so probably a leaf spring

i wouldn't get a keyboard made out of just those keys, but it's nice to see tactility even if it's super shallow

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg

surebet posted:

yeah i'm wondering myself

the original art lebedev optimus maximus design was to literally mount tiny lcds in each key, which were overlayed on... domes? i'm not even sure. the popularis ditched the novel but obviously complicated tiny lcds by having a single, big touch sensitive display on the back with keys mounted on maybe leaf springs?



whatever it is, expect super short travel & near zero actuation force. for all intents and purposes this is a touch screen.

The original was on Cherry MY switches, which use metal foil. In other words, absolute garbage, worse than the cheapest domes.

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Jan 10, 2013

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SymmetryrtemmyS posted:

The original was on Cherry MY switches, which use metal foil. In other words, absolute garbage, worse than the cheapest domes.

jfc

wasn't it $2k or something? it was a short run, hand made thing but good god drat at least use a good switch.

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg

surebet posted:

jfc

wasn't it $2k or something? it was a short run, hand made thing but good god drat at least use a good switch.

$1,589.99 and sorry, the MY is not the metal foil switch, it's a spring over membrane switch. Still garbage, though.

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

what do you guys loving expect there was a drat screen in every key

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Fayez Butts posted:

what do you guys loving expect there was a drat screen in every key

i legit don't have a problem with the cost, not that i spend that kind of money on a keyboard.

what i find funny is that they probably opted for a my switch because it's thinner and cheaper, but since it shares the same cross shaped mounting point for keys, mostly, you could probably swap out the switches for something else.

i still think it's a pretty rad design, and i'd have to consider it if i ever saw a used one for cheap(ish)
https://imgur.com/a/8ccgH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7b9glYuAXw

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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oh wow, there's actually one for sale right now
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/322511318299

if anyone is wondering what to get me for yosmas, i guess this works

Necronomoticon
Aug 14, 2007

Millennial 80's business guy
I'm selling my Pok3r RGB on ebay. I thought I could do the 60% lifestyle, but needing to drill through function layers is loving with my Excel shortcuts p badly.

The options now are either the Ducky One RGB TKL or go nuts and get in that Input.Club K-Type group buy.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

Necronomoticon posted:

go nuts and get in that Input.Club K-Type group buy.

hope ur not planning on having a keyboard the rest of the year

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

pr0zac posted:

hope ur not planning on having a keyboard the rest of the year

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug
got leds for my ergodox coming in today, gonna do some soldering tomorrow

Necronomoticon
Aug 14, 2007

Millennial 80's business guy

pr0zac posted:

hope ur not planning on having a keyboard the rest of the year

good, computers are an achievement of man's arrogance and an affront to god.

i just pulled my mac keyboard out of my closet and remapped the Alt and Command keys in the registry. :negative:

Necronomoticon fucked around with this message at 05:16 on May 16, 2017

Necronomoticon
Aug 14, 2007

Millennial 80's business guy
I went in for the K-Type. 'Halo True' switches are supposed to emulate Topre. Estimated ship date: November. :roboluv:

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

Just add
NERD RAAAAAAGE

Necronomoticon posted:

I went in for the K-Type. 'Halo True' switches are supposed to emulate Topre. Estimated ship date: November. :roboluv:

the code tkl i bought in [checks massdrop] march, is currently sitting in customs waiting for the eggheads to figure out how much i need to pay them to be allowed to have my god drat keyboard

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

not sure how you can emulate topre switches with cheap chinese plastic and regular rear end leaf springs

Necronomoticon
Aug 14, 2007

Millennial 80's business guy

hifi posted:

not sure how you can emulate topre switches with cheap chinese plastic and regular rear end leaf springs

the designer admits this, but regardless it sounds appealing. i love my cherry mx clears for the nice bottom-out cushion, but i wish the actuation was a bit smoother & lighter. i'd want to get a legit topre one day, but they're all either obscenely expensive or have idiotic niche layouts.

triplehaata posted:

My goal when designing the Halo switch was to "make it feel more like Topre". I use Topre all the time. And really, it's impossible to make it feel exactly like Topre without being Topre (see Royal Kludge).
The cushioning was took quite a while to figure out how to do. It's a lot stronger than what you'd get with Topre. So in theory it'll do a lot more to help you not bottom out rather than just feeling nice. Impact force from bottoming out is probably the thing I hate the most about typical rubberdome and chiclet keyboards.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Type heaven

Necronomoticon
Aug 14, 2007

Millennial 80's business guy
no

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
i'm
more about type ecstasy

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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code tkl on :yosbutt:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/code-k...133867369437382

basically ships for free to canada vs buying it through wasd

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

Just add
NERD RAAAAAAGE

surebet posted:

code tkl on :yosbutt:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/code-k...133867369437382

basically ships for free to canada vs buying it through wasd

i'm still waiting for the one i bought in the last drop

customs :argh:

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
kinda unironically want this:


loving maple keyboard.

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
"Hey man you wanna go out Friday night"

"nah man, I gotta stay in and re-season my keyboard"

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


give me cast iron keys and i'll cook some sausages on them

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

combination keyboard/waffle iron

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Jan 10, 2013

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https://www.amazon.com/Messy-Desk-Designs-Keyboard-Waffle/dp/B01E4EDKPY

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'


WHAT IN THE FUCKIN WORLD

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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Captain Foo posted:

WHAT IN THE FUCKIN WORLD

it's for when you never ever want to use a neurotypical's keyboard again

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