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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




PerrineClostermann posted:

Samsung isn't a monolithic company, right? It's one of those weird Asian megacompany families and each segment is better thought of as a different company, iirc

Yup, I got beaten to it, but they're loving enormous

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fartzone_42069
Oct 11, 2009

Yamaha should make phones. They make everything from motorcycles to musical instruments and it's all great quality poo poo even if it's all totally different divisions.

Fwiw I think my S7 is an all around pretty decent phone. I'd rather have to clear my entire system cache for LED notifications to work again (after an update), than like, have to shake my phone until the boot loop stops or something (HTC ftw!!).

fartzone_42069 fucked around with this message at 23:37 on May 21, 2017

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

fartzone_42069 posted:

Yamaha should make phones. They make everything from motorcycles to musical instruments and it's all great quality poo poo even if it's all totally different divisions.

Fwiw I think my S7 is an all around pretty decent phone. I'd rather have to clear my entire system cache for LED notifications to work again (after an update), than like, have to shake my phone until the boot loop stops or something (HTC ftw!!).

Yamaha should make a jumpjet that could extract the world's greatest phonemaker at backbreaking speed in some midnight desert to start a handy division.

I'd buy whatever they made.

fartzone_42069
Oct 11, 2009

So, invest in an airplane service to start a mobile handjob service?

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

fartzone_42069 posted:

So, invest in an airplane service to start a mobile handjob service?

Some guy already did this but he's dead now for some reason. And that's not what I meant.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Ihmemies posted:

What country you are living in? Maybe check play store first if the apps are available there, before installing some apk's outside the store :/ Nowdays both should be available to most people.

Facebook Lite isn't available to most western countries.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




MikeJF posted:

Facebook Lite isn't available to most western countries.

You can get the official APK and sideload it

e: vvvv oops

CLAM DOWN fucked around with this message at 04:39 on May 22, 2017

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Yea from apkmirror :) that was what started the whole thing

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I would buy a Samsung machine gun along with Samsung life insurance

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

MikeJF posted:

Facebook Lite isn't available to most western countries.

Maybe in less civilized parts like usa? Seems it's available in most parts of Western Europe at least :/

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


Ihmemies posted:

But why would you use it if the app is in play store?

In addition to country stuff, app rollouts are slow (by design), and sometimes people like to get new goodies right when they come out. Normal rollouts can take days to several weeks.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Taffer posted:

In addition to country stuff, app rollouts are slow (by design), and sometimes people like to get new goodies right when they come out. Normal rollouts can take days to several weeks.

I got the freshest bing and it's set to full Chinese. I can stumble through the localization options but it only gives me Chinese news.

The softcore porn coming out of China is actually kind of refreshing.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Ihmemies posted:

Maybe in less civilized parts like usa? Seems it's available in most parts of Western Europe at least :/

Ah, fair enough. It's not available in the anglosphere anyway; I'm Aussie, and I know that the UK and US don't have it either.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
I'm determined not to be one of those people that pops into a thread and then disappears when stuff doesn't go their way or whatever, so...

UPDATE:

YeahTubaMike posted:

My phone is arriving today though! I could always just order the G5+, use the M8 in the interim, and then return the M8 once the G5+ arrives... :effort:

edit: oh god am I a goon in a well

After a series of hilarious update-related misadventures, I decided to return my phone and buy a Moto G5+. It'll be here tomorrow. Thank you to the numerous posters who steered me in the right direction. :unsmith:

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

YeahTubaMike posted:

I'm determined not to be one of those people that pops into a thread and then disappears when stuff doesn't go their way or whatever, so...

UPDATE:


After a series of hilarious update-related misadventures, I decided to return my phone and buy a Moto G5+. It'll be here tomorrow. Thank you to the numerous posters who steered me in the right direction. :unsmith:

Haha, always good to see success stories :)

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat
Is there any value in setting up a thread to share YoutubeTV/Google Music subs? I have some slots open, and I intend on keeping YoutubeTV.

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

Jerk McJerkface posted:

Is there any value in setting up a thread to share YoutubeTV/Google Music subs? I have some slots open, and I intend on keeping YoutubeTV.

Do your bing rewards not cover it?

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Jerk McJerkface posted:

Is there any value in setting up a thread to share YoutubeTV/Google Music subs? I have some slots open, and I intend on keeping YoutubeTV.

lol jesus christ :xd:

Joe 30330
Dec 20, 2007

"We have this notion that if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids."

As the audience reluctantly began to applaud during the silence, Biden tried to fix his remarks.

"Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids -- no, I really mean it." Biden said.
I would like to inquire about your fake Amazon gift cards

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Security researchers have figured out how to fool the GS8 Iris scanner from a photo taken up to 15 feet away.

http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s8-iris-scanning-bypassed-picture-eye-and-little-time

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




bull3964 posted:

Security researchers have figured out how to fool the GS8 Iris scanner from a photo taken up to 15 feet away.

http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s8-iris-scanning-bypassed-picture-eye-and-little-time

And no one is surprised

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
This Moto G5+ is so new. I am deeply confused by everything it does, but determined to figure it out!

Desk Lamp
Jun 30, 2014

bull3964 posted:

Security researchers have figured out how to fool the GS8 Iris scanner from a photo taken up to 15 feet away.

http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s8-iris-scanning-bypassed-picture-eye-and-little-time

If someone going to those lengths to get access to your phone is a legitimate concern you should probably be more worried about the international assassins on your tail.

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

Desk Lamp posted:

If someone going to those lengths to get access to your phone is a legitimate concern you should probably be more worried about the international assassins on your tail.

And use an iphone

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

YeahTubaMike posted:

This Moto G5+ is so new. I am deeply confused by everything it does, but determined to figure it out!

Specifically what is so new? Are you coming from Windows Phone/10 Mobile?

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




WattsvilleBlues posted:

Specifically what is so new? Are you coming from Windows Phone/10 Mobile?

He/She is, check the post history. Must be a scary new world!

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

WattsvilleBlues posted:

Specifically what is so new? Are you coming from Windows Phone/10 Mobile?
As a matter of fact...


e: dammit

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Desk Lamp posted:

If someone going to those lengths to get access to your phone is a legitimate concern you should probably be more worried about the international assassins on your tail.

Just have nothing to hide, who cares about security then?

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

CLAM DOWN posted:

He/She is, check the post history. Must be a scary new world!

It is a bit scary, but in a good way. I can't wait to see what the hell Snapchat is all about. :haw:

YeahTubaMike fucked around with this message at 23:33 on May 23, 2017

Desk Lamp
Jun 30, 2014

RZA Encryption posted:

And use an iphone

The article states the same people also bypassed TouchID. Still, smartphone biometric security is good enough for 90% of users, and the remaining 10% are much more likely to be blackmailed or otherwise coerced into giving up whatever information the phone is protecting. For people like us, the real threat to our data is a breach in our cloud services rather than someone McGyvering our biometric credentials.

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

YeahTubaMike posted:

It is a bit scary, but in a good way. I can't wait to see what the hell Snapchat is all about. :haw:

Snapchat is a loving hell beast along with all those other social media abominations.

Though if you're more sociable than me you'll be fine.

I'd be interested in your viewpoints on Android these days though. I dropped Windows Phone in 2014 after a 3 year flirtation with the platform and never looked back. My work phone, which runs Windows 10 Mobile, reinforces that I made a good decision.

Morter
Jul 1, 2006

:ninja:
Gift for the grind, criminal mind shifty

Swift with the 9 through a 59FIFTY
Snapchat is great because it lets me incorporate lovely puns and image ideas to send to my one friend I talk to on steam. :shobon:

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

Desk Lamp posted:

The article states the same people also bypassed TouchID. Still, smartphone biometric security is good enough for 90% of users, and the remaining 10% are much more likely to be blackmailed or otherwise coerced into giving up whatever information the phone is protecting. For people like us, the real threat to our data is a breach in our cloud services rather than someone McGyvering our biometric credentials.

Sorry, let me correct that.

Desk Lamp posted:

If someone going to those lengths to get access to your phone is a legitimate concern you should probably be more worried about the international assassins on your tail.

Use an iphone with a complex pin.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

PerrineClostermann posted:

Just have nothing to hide, who cares about security then?

:nallears:

This gimmick is really tired and worn out.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



I mean honestly if someone steals your phone in public they probably have no idea what you look like thus would have no idea how to bypass iris and face scanners

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

vyst posted:

I mean honestly if someone steals your phone in public they probably have no idea what you look like thus would have no idea how to bypass iris and face scanners

People who get all weird about their phone security (on the physical level) confuse me.

Yes I'll just strategically leave this phone on the counter while I go to the bathroom. You're loving going to the bathroom, you need that phone in there. Where are you leaving it it weighs like 6 oz

Sininu
Jan 8, 2014

I managed to scratch my phone's screen day before my case arrived. :(
Apparently Gorilla Glass 4 is no match against imperfections on dry paint.

Prude
Nov 28, 2010

by Reene
This may have been discussed here ages ago, but I don't believe it's really come up in the last few pages:

I just ordered a Pixel at long last (to replace my aging HTC One M8) and while I'm confident it's the best option on the market right now for what I want in a phone, and I've figured out the other accessories like an extra long charging cable (amazon basics) and a case (either one of the Spigens or a Parallax probably), I still need to figure out what kind of screen protection I'd like. I'm not one of those people who is comfortable with a naked screen.

I didn't know this before, but apparently the Pixel has a very slight curvature to it's screen like a less extreme version of a design language a particular competitor is really big on - which means tempered glass screen protectors are kind of in a rough state for the Pixel as well from what I can tell. There seems to be a few different approaches one could take: go with something like the smaller glass protectors and hope that the screen-only profile helps avoid haloing problems by being flush only with the flat parts, or one of the full front ones that have the colored edges that can essentially hide if there's less than complete edge adherence (but apparently these don't usually have adhesive in the middle, meaning gaps can form and stuff may make it under somehow), or one can just give up on glass entirely and regress back to plastic film style protectors.

So I figured I'd ask you guys, is there any particular screen protection scheme you guys are fond of for the Pixel? (Black, non-XL if it matters)

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

I guess you can set up shortcuts for assistant now

Whenever you deal with Google Assistant you have to deal with the problem that there are different versions of the Assistant running on different platforms. Thus far, shortcuts only work on Google Home and Android phones with Android 6.0 (Marshmallow) or later. It would be nice if Google cleaned up this mess with a version of the Assistant that does the same things whether you’re talking to it on Home, Allo, your cellphone or a Google Wear device.

How to set up a shortcut

The interface for setting up shortcuts is buried in the Google Home app. Tap the list icon (three horizontal bars, AKA the hamburger icon) on the upper left of the screen in the Home app. Then tap “More settings” and scroll down to “Shortcuts”. Tapping “Shortcuts” brings you to the page where you can create your own.

Creating a shortcut involves entering your own launch command in one text box and the command string the Assistant recognizes and executes in another. The shortcut connects the two and the Assistant will execute the command string whenever you give it the launch command.


Google provides several examples to help you get started. You can replace the text in the examples with your own, tap save and the Assistant will keep both your new command and the example you used to create it. This is a good way to get started until you become comfortable with the commands that work with the Assistant.

You also have the option of setting up a second launch command in case you’d like two ways to trigger the same action. If you set up a shortcut and then find yourself giving the Assistant the wrong launch command, you can enter the one you say by mistake in the second launch-command box, keep the original, and not have to worry about which one is right.

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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


The implications of retina being easy to fake with a picture are worse than fingerprint since it's pretty drat easy for someone to obtain a high quality picture of your face and then print it out.

Yeah, if someone grabs your phone when you aren't around it's not going to do them a ton of good. There's a whole lot of stuff in-between though.

At any rate, Samsung touted this as being much better than the facial recognition unlock and it really isn't. It can be fooled the same way, you just have to stick contacts on a picture.

Use a complex pin if you want utmost security. Use fingerprint if you want decent security against most issues with convenience. Retina offers no more convenience than fingerprint and is far easier to fake. It's just another feature that Samsung crammed in that really doesn't make the device better.

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