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I think a lot of viewers just want to feel comfortable, when the whole point of Twin Peaks has always been that comfort is a thin layer on top of a gruesome darkness.
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spudsbuckley posted:Hey, I'm with you on that. i always love when people don't understand something so they insult it because they think no other human could possibly see different things in it.
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May 22, 2017 17:11
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Relin posted:i just finished FWWMMP in prep for the third season and i cant remember , was the ring and garambozia stuff was in the original 2 seasons? also who is this character laura talks to about her journal with in the first third of the movie
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May 22, 2017 17:11
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Ginette Reno posted:I wouldn't say I loved it but I didn't hate it either. It's so much more like FWWM than the show, so if you came expecting more Twin Peaks you're probably gonna be largely disappointed. Lynch wasn't joking when he said the movie would be important. What he meant by that was the show would be a lot more like the movie than the old show. Mulholland Dr and Lost Highway are both two great movies that make enough sense for you to understand the emotional beats of the plot even without close analysis
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May 22, 2017 17:13
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Gazpacho posted:The ring and garmonbozia were not in the TV show but the owl symbol on the ring appeared in the last few (post-hiatus) episodes garmonbozia appears in the first episode of the second season, and iirc one or two other times in the show.
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May 22, 2017 17:13
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I feel like a lot of people forget that more than half the first season is a meditation on grief, loss, depression, substance abuse, and suffering through unfulfilling relationships. The show seemed lighter because Coop emphasizes the joy you can experience during/in spite of/past the suffering. But now we aren't in such times. It's rougher, harder, scarier, more depressing. And Lynch doesn't have to hold back for TV censors anymore.
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May 22, 2017 17:18
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The smoke monster in the box is all your expectations for what a Twin Peaks revival should be bursting through the television and ripping your goddamn face off. Honestly I don't know why anyone would walk into any David Lynch project with any preconceived notions other than "he gonna do what he do."
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May 22, 2017 17:22
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It's weird that people are getting hung up on the purpose of the glass box.
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May 22, 2017 17:24
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Whats the spoiler policy going to be? I want to talk about things but I realize not everyone has caught up. Should someone start up a spoiler thread? I mean I can start one up I guess.
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May 22, 2017 17:25
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Holy gently caress, Michael Cera. Hahahahahahaha
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May 22, 2017 17:30
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Magic Hate Ball posted:It's weird that people are getting hung up on the purpose of the glass box. i mean it's one of the few things that's explicitly laid out in the first four episodes. A secret billionaire is bankrolling a top secret project to monitor a space for supernatural activity. This may or may not be linked to Ben Horne, who says something about a a person in New York funding the Great Northern's spa. The project successfully finds what it's looking for, and some people die. We see Coop in the box, shown chronologically before the young couple are murdered, so I assumed the spirit was somehow following Coop.
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May 22, 2017 17:33
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Magic Hate Ball posted:It's weird that people are getting hung up on the purpose of the glass box. It is television and we are the people starring at it and occasionally loving but also getting our faces ripped off.
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May 22, 2017 17:47
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General Dog posted:So is it made more explicit in episode 4 that Dougie was BOB and friends' creation? I'd assumed it was something Mike had made as a failsafe, since Dougie was unable to move his arm right before he got zapped to the lodge. I know lynch can tend to be a blunt with his clue. "When you get there you will already be there" Is this just referring to Danzig? "Is it future or is it past?" Does some part of this story not take place in the current timeline?
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May 22, 2017 17:50
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eSporks posted:I'm not too sold on it being either one ATM. The arm is not something I picked up on, but that combined with the ring being associated with Mike could point that way. There is only one time-line. The Black Lodge/Waiting Room/White Lodge are non-linear. I've always interpreted it as such: Once you enter the Black Lodge, you are in the Black Lodge, and so can appear in any iteration of the black lodge, past present and future. Hence Coop being with Laura in FWWM. However Coop is alive in the Black Lodge, he is not a resident nor spirit, so if he leaves the Black Lodge, he will no longer aplear in any visions of it, because he will be in linear time again.
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May 22, 2017 17:58
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The obscured nudity in front of the glass box struck me as weird given that Lynch fired tv Donna for suggesting that they could do the bar scene in Fire Walk With Me without her getting her boobs out. I guess he is mercurial about boobs.
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Franchescanado posted:There is only one time-line. The Black Lodge/Waiting Room/White Lodge are non-linear. I've always interpreted it as such: Yea I get that, I just feel like the line may be referring to something else in the story. Timeline was the wrong word, I meant more like one of the stories we are being shown takes place during a different time than the others.
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May 22, 2017 18:02
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eSporks posted:Yea I get that, I just feel like the line may be referring to something else in the story. Timeline was the wrong word, I meant more like one of the stories we are being shown takes place during a different time than the others. I think the two moments you specifically quoted where to emphasize the timeless-ness of The Black Lodge to remind old fans and instruct new viewers while also playing with the cyclical nature of Coop's time in The Black Lodge, but it may also be playing with Coop & Doppleganger.
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May 22, 2017 18:06
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Hmm... an internet commentator suggested this may be the spirit of the log-lady's dead husband? Maybe? We have little clues about most of the mysteries, so I'd just mark it down as a very loose guess.
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May 22, 2017 18:07
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LOL the log ladys dead husband. See this is why I dont want poo poo explained and kept ambigious. Fan theories are so nutty and wild and awesome.
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May 22, 2017 18:15
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business hammocks posted:The obscured nudity in front of the glass box struck me as weird given that Lynch fired tv Donna for suggesting that they could do the bar scene in Fire Walk With Me without her getting her boobs out. I guess he is mercurial about boobs. Uh, that's not what happened.
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May 22, 2017 18:16
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Whats the spoiler policy going to be? I want to talk about things but I realize not everyone has caught up. Should someone start up a spoiler thread? I mean I can start one up I guess. Plus I think this is gonna be the only week like this where some people have seen more than what aired on TV. They're not dropping episodes 5 and 6 next week or anything. On Showtime Anytime it specifically says that new episodes are coming June 4th.
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May 22, 2017 18:17
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Like, Lara Flynn Boyle did multiple nude scenes the same year as fwwm, iirc. I had always heard it was a dispute over the direction of her character and something relating to her off screen relationship with Kyle McLachlan.
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JazzFlight posted:Hmm... an internet commentator suggested this may be the spirit of the log-lady's dead husband? Maybe? 
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May 22, 2017 18:35
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If you were a fan of the tv shows charm and chemistry and hated FWWM you are going to really hate this.
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Under the vegetable posted:Like, Lara Flynn Boyle did multiple nude scenes the same year as fwwm, iirc. I had always heard it was a dispute over the direction of her character and something relating to her off screen relationship with Kyle McLachlan. She was a huge bitch and no one liked working with her after she decided for herself that Donna was the main character of the show. She played Us vs Them games with the cast over Coop & Audrey. She's not a great actress.
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May 22, 2017 18:38
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Empress Brosephine posted:If you were a fan of the tv shows charm and chemistry and hated FWWM you are going to really hate this. Pretty accurate. This is nothing like the show and way more like his films.
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May 22, 2017 18:40
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I like her, but I like movie Donna more. I don't know if it's ever actually been confirmed why she left, I think it's just a lot of rumors.
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FWWM was the last note in the Twin Peak symphony so this is just continuing off of that note. This new incarnation of Twin Peaks is a delightful blend of the depressing dread of FWWM and the goofiness of the TVS show (Everything involving Dougie, Michael Cera, etc...). The show is 100% david lynch being david lynch so I don't understand why anyone would want anything less. Cooper's adventures from the black lodge back to our earthly plane felt like something out of a 90s adventure game. Especially when going about that weird plug. Hawk's conversations with cancer stricken log lady made me uber sad.  Jerry Horne / David Patrick Kelly running a pot business in WA is absolutely perfect. I will fight anyone who disagrees. I've only finished episode 4 which are all the episodes available to me from the showtime channel add-on on Amazon. I assume the rest of the episodes will drop at a later date? G-III fucked around with this message at 19:46 on May 22, 2017 |
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spudsbuckley posted:Nah, he's right. You'd have to be a huge fan of Lynch to put up with this show. While I disagree with your opinion, I'd sooner read what you wrote than any scoffing hand-twirling 'It's high art, so you wouldn't get it' comments.
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May 22, 2017 18:56
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G-III posted:Hawk's conversations with cancerous log lady made me uber sad. I know. I agree. "Goodnight, Margaret."
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oh poo poo i can't unsee that now, good catch
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G-III posted:I've only finished episode 4 which are all the episodes available to me from the showtime channel add-on on Amazon. I assume the rest of the episodes will drop at a later date?
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General Dog posted:So is it made more explicit in episode 4 that Dougie was BOB and friends' creation? I'd assumed it was something Mike had made as a failsafe, since Dougie was unable to move his arm right before he got zapped to the lodge. BOB outright says in episode 2 he has prepared a contingency plan to not go back to the lodge.
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I forget which episode it was after marathoning the 4 in quick succession but do we know who the people headhunting Real Cooper with the sniper rifle are? Are they a separate party from Danzig Cooper, like the group that Dougie's wife mentioned being able to pay back with the casino winnings?
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May 22, 2017 19:23
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Also Coolper is probably the best new character ever
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Episodes 3 and 4 stuff: The face ripping spirit was caught on video but Coop wasn't from the look of it. I was thinking it was maybe because he didn't have a physical body yet but then it's implied that the sex-havers barely missed seeing him. What do you guys think is happening there? Man-In-Madden fucked around with this message at 19:40 on May 22, 2017 |
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May 22, 2017 19:36
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Oh my fuckin god I can't believe how good that was! I was hoping for swan song peak Lynch and it totally delivered. Hopefully we get Coop back to normal sooner rather than later. I don't really know what else to say, I'm kinda in a daze, I had such high expectations that it shouldn't have been able to smash them but it totally did
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FauxLeather posted:I forget which episode it was after marathoning the 4 in quick succession but do we know who the people headhunting Real Cooper with the sniper rifle are? Are they a separate party from Danzig Cooper, like the group that Dougie's wife mentioned being able to pay back with the casino winnings? Pretty sure Danzig sets them up. He mentions need some people to be in a specific place while he is in the hotel room. Sounds like he hired the hitmen to me. Which lends credence to the idea that Danzig created Dougie. Or at least knew what was going to happen to him.
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I'm saying this as someone who really likes David Lynch and liked the new episodes so far, I was worried that this season would be all Lynch with no one holding him back, because the original series was not that at all. The end product is going to be good because Lynch is talented, but I think it is going to lose a lot of the magic of the first two seasons.
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